Originally posted by Znarf Originally posted by LanmoragonBy saying you won a beta spot, NC Soft gave a version of the truth. They never said you will get into beta at the ending of the contest, or even a month later.
now you are really funny!:) So if I get up a site, asking say 1k for some goods on sale, I can then keep the money telling my customers I have time until I am alive, since it is not stated when the goods will be delivered?:)
ROTFL!
this is a wonderful idea for e commerce!
p.s.: in case of legal issues, i will redirect them to Lanmoragon. obviously!
You obviously dont know how anything works, including e commerce.
Selling goods on a site and not delivering is alot different than a company giving a separate website with no corporate ties to them beta keys for their product and that site holding a contest for them. Now if you where to say put a product up on ebay, sell it, and never ship it out, you would be answering to ebay.com's policy of whatever punishment they have in their legal agreements when you create an account.
If you put up your own separate site to sell a product that you decide never to deliver, im sure its up to whatever state laws or federal laws say on that matter.
If the laws say that there isnt anything they can do about you buying a product from a site that doesnt have legal bindings as to when the seller ships out the item, then thats tough luck to the buyer for being dumb enough to purchase an item from a non-safe site.
Now did you pay for the beta? Did you purchase or sign up for it reading EXACTLY word for word that the beta is supposed to be handed out on such-and-such date? I'll state again, if there was no specific date given as to when you would recieve your beta spot, and only that you WILL recieve a beta spot, then your a fool for not reading it like that.
Did you also read up on the small text that you check the little box for at the end, stating that you understand the terms and agreements? Depending on what that said, MMORPG.com or the developers of AA owe you nothing if it was decided that the beta keys shouldnt be handed out after all. If there was something in there that said there is no compensation given for non-value items like a beta key, then thats your fault for not reading it.
Also in the small text was most likely a statement verifying who was holding the contest; if the contest was soley the responsibility of MMORPG.com or if the developers of AA had a hand in it too. Usually its the case that the developers claim no responsibility for the end results of the contest, so if thats the case then your claim is with MMORPG.com, not with the "fraudulent" developers of AA.
Try using a little common sense when you try to call a company on what you see as a fraud. Businesses cover their asses, its up to you to read the small text. You might want to get smart on how buying products work, especially if you are using the internet.
dude....chill....i was one of the winners of the beta contest, and i just got my invite!!!....was beta testing last night....so just chill.
If you won a slot, you'll get a chance--at their disgression. BE PATIENT!!! It'a a privilege to test, not something they owe you. But if you got a slot, your privilege will come. So sit down and wait like everyone else!!! nuff said.
I cant help but wonder if Znarf (and his fellow whiners) have received their invites by now (and thus why nothing's been said since 1 Dec), but are too cowardly to come back here and apologise to NCSoft, NetDevil, and MMORPG.
Much easier to pretend it never happened than to admit you were wrong I guess.
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maybe you all should read the AA site a bit more carefully because there IS a post stating that they were postponing invites untill they had a new update. they JUST had wave 10. so they are adding people again. so sit down and wait and dont complain. figure they have ALL the various contest winners PLUS pre order holders PLUS those who did a regular beta sign up. just because you won a spot doesnt mean u get in right away. ALOT of people have been waiting for ALOT longer than you. so just chill you are gaurenteed a spot.
Go back to wht ever F'ed up planet of gaming you came from, besideds how the F does a company cheat?
NeWay, go hang yourself and delete your account on MMORPG.com
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Originally posted by darquenblade Um, wouldn't he want to delete his account BEFORE hanging himself?
LoL Ya, Delete then Hang yourself
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They lifted that restriciont. Now you can state that you are in the beta. Anyways, there was probably some screw up ath NCSoft and they sent me 2 beta keys:):) I was already in the beta when they sent me another key:):)
This reminds me of all those retarded average gamer situations i have had over the years. Like "the ps2 must have more graphix than the gamecube and xbox because it plays dvds and they dont" and if you arent an idiot you will realize why the person who said that is an idiot.
Or even better the guy who said "PlayNC is a company of liars and so is gamestop, i bought the City of Heroes preorder from gamestop and they said i could play the game a month early, and when i went to go pick it up a month early they said they dident have it! Those liars they could atleast be honest and tell us that they couldent do it!" And if you werent around when the COH beta was going on you had to sign up using the beta cd and they would let you make a usable charector in beta early.
Well thats about the two most retarded comments i have heard from average gamers. And from this topic starters comments I deffer that he is a average gamer. And as is my word I declare he is a moron and everyone agrees with me on some level.
Originally posted by Znarf Now tell me: was the beta contest only a dirty fraud?:(I really dont like being cheated, i dont know if it is MMORPG's fault or Nc's, what i SEE is there has been a large lack of honesty by som part.This really sucks, the game seems headed to become "Mourning 2", the vengeance!:(That a good site like this bends to such unthrustwothy people!:(Companies who cheat their customers (remember: who MONTHS AGO PAID CASH for a prerelease of the game has lost his hars owned cash and will not play any soon!) should be banned forever from any serious site!
The games coming out, if you would read you would know the exact date of when its going to be realsed to... not that it matters becuse if you were truly loyel to a game you would let them realse it when it ready not when you want it.
If you bought the game you get a garenteed BETA account also. Its still very early BETA to. So if you keep up to date with the game you might know when the playtest are and stuff.
Plus its your fault for buying a game that hasent even came out yet.
The beta contest was not a fraud. Even if it was you can still sign up for beta at the website. But im asumming you one of those noobs who dont even know what true BETA testing is and you just want to play the game before every one else and get a high level.
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now you are really funny!:)
So if I get up a site, asking say 1k for some goods on sale, I can then keep the money telling my customers I have time until I am alive, since it is not stated when the goods will be delivered?:)
ROTFL!
this is a wonderful idea for e commerce!
p.s.:
in case of legal issues, i will redirect them to Lanmoragon. obviously!
You obviously dont know how anything works, including e commerce.
Selling goods on a site and not delivering is alot different than a company giving a separate website with no corporate ties to them beta keys for their product and that site holding a contest for them. Now if you where to say put a product up on ebay, sell it, and never ship it out, you would be answering to ebay.com's policy of whatever punishment they have in their legal agreements when you create an account.
If you put up your own separate site to sell a product that you decide never to deliver, im sure its up to whatever state laws or federal laws say on that matter.
If the laws say that there isnt anything they can do about you buying a product from a site that doesnt have legal bindings as to when the seller ships out the item, then thats tough luck to the buyer for being dumb enough to purchase an item from a non-safe site.
Now did you pay for the beta? Did you purchase or sign up for it reading EXACTLY word for word that the beta is supposed to be handed out on such-and-such date? I'll state again, if there was no specific date given as to when you would recieve your beta spot, and only that you WILL recieve a beta spot, then your a fool for not reading it like that.
Did you also read up on the small text that you check the little box for at the end, stating that you understand the terms and agreements? Depending on what that said, MMORPG.com or the developers of AA owe you nothing if it was decided that the beta keys shouldnt be handed out after all. If there was something in there that said there is no compensation given for non-value items like a beta key, then thats your fault for not reading it.
Also in the small text was most likely a statement verifying who was holding the contest; if the contest was soley the responsibility of MMORPG.com or if the developers of AA had a hand in it too. Usually its the case that the developers claim no responsibility for the end results of the contest, so if thats the case then your claim is with MMORPG.com, not with the "fraudulent" developers of AA.
Try using a little common sense when you try to call a company on what you see as a fraud. Businesses cover their asses, its up to you to read the small text. You might want to get smart on how buying products work, especially if you are using the internet.
woo double post.
dude....chill....i was one of the winners of the beta contest, and i just got my invite!!!....was beta testing last night....so just chill.
If you won a slot, you'll get a chance--at their disgression. BE PATIENT!!! It'a a privilege to test, not something they owe you. But if you got a slot, your privilege will come. So sit down and wait like everyone else!!! nuff said.
I cant help but wonder if Znarf (and his fellow whiners) have received their invites by now (and thus why nothing's been said since 1 Dec), but are too cowardly to come back here and apologise to NCSoft, NetDevil, and MMORPG.
Much easier to pretend it never happened than to admit you were wrong I guess.
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what theys ending out the invites now ? , hmm for the NA beta or the EU beta ?
havnt gotten any mail yet , and im in EU.
i actualy won a beta invite from mmorpg. i chose not to go into it for other reasions involving a certain NDA
and the game isnt vaporware and it is working playable and such... i just cant tell you anything about it MWAHAHAHHAH
also i beleive you can tell people your in the beta you just cant tell them anything about it
NeWay, go hang yourself and delete your account on MMORPG.com
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Tried ---> Anarcy Online, Matrix Online, EVE Online, Asheron's Call, Ragnorock Online
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Played ---> Earth and Beyond, Everquest, Planetside, Star Wars Galaxies, City of Heros, Lineage II, Everquest II, Final Fantasy XI, Dark Age of Camolot, Guild Wars
Tried ---> Anarcy Online, Matrix Online, EVE Online, Asheron's Call, Ragnorock Online
Playing ---> World of Warcraft - 54 Orc Warrior on Doomhammer named Broly
They lifted that restriciont. Now you can state that you are in the beta. Anyways, there was probably some screw up ath NCSoft and they sent me 2 beta keys:):) I was already in the beta when they sent me another key:):)
This reminds me of all those retarded average gamer situations i have had over the years. Like "the ps2 must have more graphix than the gamecube and xbox because it plays dvds and they dont" and if you arent an idiot you will realize why the person who said that is an idiot.
Or even better the guy who said "PlayNC is a company of liars and so is gamestop, i bought the City of Heroes preorder from gamestop and they said i could play the game a month early, and when i went to go pick it up a month early they said they dident have it! Those liars they could atleast be honest and tell us that they couldent do it!" And if you werent around when the COH beta was going on you had to sign up using the beta cd and they would let you make a usable charector in beta early.
Well thats about the two most retarded comments i have heard from average gamers. And from this topic starters comments I deffer that he is a average gamer. And as is my word I declare he is a moron and everyone agrees with me on some level.
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The games coming out, if you would read you would know the exact date of when its going to be realsed to... not that it matters becuse if you were truly loyel to a game you would let them realse it when it ready not when you want it.
If you bought the game you get a garenteed BETA account also. Its still very early BETA to. So if you keep up to date with the game you might know when the playtest are and stuff.
Plus its your fault for buying a game that hasent even came out yet.
The beta contest was not a fraud. Even if it was you can still sign up for beta at the website. But im asumming you one of those noobs who dont even know what true BETA testing is and you just want to play the game before every one else and get a high level.