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FFXIV is bringing around an outdated retail and subscription model with a game title already badly scorned. On top of that there is no free trial for generally interested possible players to even try this game. Considering the standard release was an utter flop with reviewers warning the masses to stay away, you would think the idea would be to attract as many people as possible to show the game is fixed?
To put it bluntly, you are absolutely bonkers if you think I'm going to throw a full retail purchase into a game that has/had such a bad reputation. Whereas most MMOs right now have a free trial... What is the big idea?
Fanatics and zealots I urge you to consider these pragmatic points before falling on your own sword for SE.
-A beta test is not a free trial. It is a beta test of an unfinished product.
What of the people who wanted to try the full retail product and not a hyped monster of a title that FFXIV is/was?
Where are the free trials? As so many titles proved true, you cannot continue to gain subs on a full retail and sub model without free trials. See: EvE Online, WoW, and practically every MMO that hasn't sunset already and still manages some level of momentum.
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No trials.
Are you done venting? You can wait a while like every one else on the fence. You're actually showing prudence by not buying without a trial which is good, but ranting like this should be directed to SE. If any thing, free trials right now would do the following:
1. Open up another avenue for gil sellers to abuse.
2. Possibly lock-down and crash more servers like the problems they had in the first few weeks of launch.
Frankly, securing those problems are more important to them right now than attracting more customers. You can call it what ever you want, but that's their call.Lastly, they're not forcing you to play, any way.
FFS...
The game came out just a month ago. No MMO has ever had a free trial just a month in.
Troll harder.
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I would say at the moment the issue is that they could care less about you and your want to play/try it for free. We have enough server issues with the massive population we currently have. In fact SE actually stopped selling the game for a good 2 weeks due to overflow.
That being said I would expect a trial sometime down the road. But as we've yet to even experience the one month exodus. I don't think their all that concerned about new people. Much more worry is currently around getting the servers to remain stable under the current load. Many servers have queues, and don't even get me started on the Duty Finder server.. It can take up to half an hour to get an instance to use due to the incredible overload of that system.
Bottom line. If you are only intending to play a game for free. You'll be waiting a wile for FFXIV. I suggest you move along to one of the many other games you listed that you can try as your leisure.
There will probably be free trials in the coming months. I still have queues so I don't think they should be giving free trials right now anyway. Servers are at capacity. They most likely will die down in a couple months. Should see some then.
What? AAR isn't 'badly scorned', it's highly praised! As for the box + sub model being outdated... well, I'll just leave that one alone.
It's not a full retail price. It's $30, less if you can find it on sale (I paid $23). Even at $30, its the price of subbing for two months.
IIRC, the client for the open beta was the same client which was available at launch, with a few minor bug fixes. Furthermore, in the majority of cases open beta is for all intents and purposes a limited trial under another name.
As for actual free trials, the games you named have been established for years. I don't think any new game barring F2P titles has had trials from the get-go. I'm sure there will be one eventually, but right now the servers are still packed enough without having to worry about trial players.
Crippling problems? Im not sure what you are referring to or how it pertains to full servers or free trials. Hmm. Am I posting in a drunk thread? Its Friday night and its been known to happen around here.
If a MMO server is at capacity and players are being denied service or put into queues that sounds like a crippling problem to me? Feel free to downgrade that adjective. We're breaking into your subjective viewpoint here. Anyways, thanks for the response.
Okay, listen to what I'm saying. An open beta test these days, like it or not, is a trial. They do it solely for the purpose of letting people give the game a go for a few days. Furthermore, the game isn't in beta right now. It's released. You wouldn't be paying for a beta, you'd be paying for the finished product. Well, as finished as an MMORPG can be at release.
The OB client and release client are the same because open beta isn't an actual beta in the traditional sense. Open beta = free trial before release. That's how it is, no matter how much you deny it. These days it's a buzz term, nothing more.
TERA didn't have a free trial at launch; they added one a month of so after release. Of course, that could be considered a part of the 'launch period', so I'll concede to your statement in part. However, that's ONE MMO out of how many released just this year? To say nothing of those released in years prior. TERA was the exception, not the rule.
game companies don't wanna offer trials or demos anymore.. Its a dying thing.. They only wanna do trials when they realize that their income is dropping as people leave the games..
They arent really concerned with if ur happy with their game or not anymore.. They just want you to spend money on it.. they are concerned with getting you to spend money and more of it however they can..
Since the game is new they wont put out a trial because that would jeopardize whether a possibly interested customer spends money to buy it.. After all once u bought it, like it or not, they have your money.. And if u don't like it, THEY STILL HAVE YOUR MONEY...
Companies see trials and demos as a chance for you to decide that you don't like it.. If you don't like it then u wont buy it.. If you don't buy it, they don't get your money.... So they arent about to put one in anytime soon...
Perhaps after the pblishing company has become satisfied with clearing their investments in the game will they allow a trial to put into play..
Server queues are like a 5 minute to 10 minute wait....how in the world is that crippling? They've already provided the solution, server capacity was increased, and people are placed into a small queue. If the queue was huge, then yes I'd agree with you.
Honestly, with all of your responses it sounds like you are in full attack mode against this game. So naturally everyone who likes this game is going to go in all out defense mode on you.
That sure makes a lot of sense..if you totally ignore the fact that most mmos and many other online games are free to play.
I'm sorry but you are really trying to sell something with this. AoC Was a complete failure. It was FORCED to try and get subs within a month due to a ship going down in flames. Warhammer was even worse. CoH did NOT have a trail within the first 2 months even. Unless you can present HARD PROOF otherwise. I played back then and I'm quite certain my friends had to buy it to join me. As for TERA I do not remember anything of the sort until it was clear that there was no endgame and people started bailing.
Ok can i turn this aroud
Can you show me a single MMO of this size - thing AAA games, not the middle or lower end of hte market where any free trial has turned up in first 12months
Im getting old, but i seem to remember that WoW took almost to the end of WoW vanilla to offer free trials (might of even been after the first expansion)
EvE you cannot put eve in this catagory given its a sub model but a sub model that you cna play without cash.. so in effect all of my accounts (and yes i have lots) are on permanent trial because i dont pay any r/l money to play
I cannot thing of any AAA MMO that offered a free trial in its first 12months.
Fact is if you CBA arsed to spend $30 on the box, then are you ever going to be the customer who will spend $10 on the monthly subs, im guessing that once the free trial ends you will then moan that this game should be free to play and is not worth the subs.
Fact is fro $30 (if you even pay that) you get 1 month game time, so the box is actually in real terms $20 (or less if you get lucky) so im sorry if you realyl can't afford it (the world is a bitch atm for money problems) but let me tell you simply,. "life is about have and have nots" so you either put your hands in your pocket or turn left at the door and the queue is over the right for the free loaders.
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
Use this code for 21days trial in eve online https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=d385aff2-794a-44a4-96f1-3967ccf6d720&action=buddy
Point 1: Well considering you're calling out to "Zealots" and "Fanatics" to argue why you wouldn't be "absolutely bonkers" then yes I'm perfectly confident you're venting and out to get someone lol.
Point 2: No, it doesn't seem like a silly reason.
since this game is a retail sold product with a subscription model we can shove F2p game talk into a corner.. After all F2P games are a whole different world of greed..
You can play World of warcraft for free to level 20 as long as you want son.
FF ARR is doing way to good to offer free stuff.
Come back in a year ?
This. They nailed the timing of this release perfectly, there's nothing of significance close to release for maybe 6 more months, gives them a great window of opportunity to really grow this title before something else comes along to challenge.
Like you said, free trials are better served a couple of months in front of the next big title to release.
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