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awww..no melrose online?
is Simpsons online stilll alive? that is an EA title too , right?
nah sorry but class stories x 8 are a waste of time, players are through with that in a month at max. Not worth the investment.
What this game needs are new game systems, mechanics and things to do which keep you at the game, and visual+engine improvements.
Class stories please don´t give them any ideas on putting more money into VOICE ACTING
THis game needs:
Revamped NPC AI, more lifelike planets, day night change, housing, Pazaak , Swoop racing, working casino, a space sim.. that sort of stuff ( and everything that SWG had, period)
Class stories are only thing that kept me playing past first month.
And again, most of what you propose would require pretty much rework of the game and change in the core of the game, something i think will never happen (game would probably shut down instead pulling of FXIV like thingy or NGE).
Unfortunately you have to limit yourself to what they actually have and make most of what they have. I sure would like it wasnt WoW clone but thats the reality and that will not change.
ea just lost over $273 dollars this quarter.
also command and conquer biowares first rts title was cancelled today. and so far everything i'm hearing about the starfighter thing has people saying its fun for about a minute and you never play it again after.
tor is done ea isn't going to let it stay up as they are losing money at this rate.
Yes, I remember people like you talking the same for the last 2 years. Waiting for a SWTOR end who never come and never will anytime soon.
Well since I'm not a PvE kind of guy, I got really bored of class stories after the first ones. I finished a few others up till Chapter 3 just for the class buffs, but after that I never touched them again. The cinematics didn't really pull me in since almost all of the PvE missions in this game are nothing but fetch quests.
Most of the 75%+ players who left seemed like they were focused on endgame. Too bad EAware thought we'd be stuck leveling even throughout 4 months after launch.
Someone else posted in another thread about the top 10 game companies that showed EA at number 3 and up 8%
Weird how number have a way of showing peoples bias rather than the facts they think they see in them.
EA just entered into an exclusive deal with Disney to handle all things Star Wars releated in the videogame sphear....how gullable do you have to be to believe those "rumars" of EA trying to dump the SW license for SWTOR lol?
do you know how much money ea has to pay for it? a lot. and look at my last post ea is going in the red, they are shutting down projects left and right.
swtor was a blunder and so far there's no fixing it.
And not only that, but the licensing is likely very different for an MMO vs a SPG title: for an SPG, it is usually a flat franchise fee, once, plus a percentage of each box. But it is different for MMOs: they have to pay that license fee EVERY YEAR the game is running, and you can bet that number was STEEP for what they were expecting out of TOR.
Wanting to get out of that fee, for a "non-successful" product has nothing whatsoever to do with any other games EA makes or might make in the future. It is just good business.
(Also, I seem to recall that LA massively reduced the franchise fee for SWG a year or so after the NGE happened, or else that game would have closed much sooner. There were several threads / stories about that at the time.)
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
Dark Age of Camelot
lets also look at this does disney really want tor?
it's well known as one of the worst mmo's of all time, it cost $300+ million to make, it maybe barely breaking over the 100k sub mark and i am being very fair about that. the community? just go look at the forums i never hear anything good about the game rather i see most of the community is on the verge of quitting more so now then before after the blunder with swtor:gs. i hear more people talk about how great swg was then i hear about tor.
disney won't want that when they are busy relaunching star wars. they want something huge that can draw tons of players in. and swtor isn't that game.
How much is " a lot"
Where did you get that loss number from ?
How many projects is left and right ?
I'm not saying you're wrong.. but posts like this get thrown up all the time and they are wrong. What makes yours any different ?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1pj0n1/ea_loses_273_million_this_quarter/
as for projects they are shutting down, command and conquer is now bye bye. tiger woods and ea split so i don't think you'll be seeing anymore golf games. a number of their mobile games are going away as well.
Here's a link with a list of services update. Maybe these are what he/she was referring to? Not sure.
http://www.ea.com/1/service-updates
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
Dark Age of Camelot
From that very link
The explanation is that they make money in the quarters they release nothing and lose money in the ones they release games since their marketing costs are instantaneous and their game profits are realized over 18-24 months. So in this quarter they released their biggest EA Sports titles and had a marketing push for BF4 which means the marketing costs are high which is why you see this loss. If you read up the conference call transript they find this quarter a successful one.
Don't you think that's a reasonable explination for why a huge company would be up or down for a single quarter and not really something you'd want to go all chicken little about on an internet forum over ?
Of the games you listed ....seriously ? C&C is the only game of note and no one really knows what happened there yet. Tiger woods...ppl would probably be more interested in sinking balls into his hookers than playing another golf game with his name on it. Who walked away from whom in that deal ?
I'm not fan of EA..and I'd like to see them shut down, but I'm also no fan of what some of you are doing either. This type of EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOREVER!!! crap is something you'd expect to read in a tabloid.
if you don't like ea then why are you supporting tor?
really tor is just everything thats wrong with gaming today, and it's showing that people don't want things like tor. people want a swg.
I voted with my wallet and stopped giving them my money. Making up or twisting number so they say something they really don't isn't how I want to bring out change in the industry. If TOR is failing it will fail, if it's a game no one wants to play no one will play it.
Getting people all mob like with doom and gloom threats isn't going to end how anyone plans, and isn't going to get the results people want. Making the internet a hostile envornment for any dev wont make them listen to us. All it will do is make them think people are misinformed idiots that are too stupid to know what they want. ( which is an attitude many of them already have...and I can't say it's not well earned )
Developers aren't fooled by made up numbers, only consumers take forum stats at face value.
I'm surprised this game is even being discussed. Try making a brand new account: Name invalid or unavailable - is what you will get the moment you type in a new name.
Game is going the way of Warhammer. I'd put more energy into trying to revive SWG. Now that, was a good game
(pre silly patch of course).
The thing is a lot of people don't know about why tor is the way it is. it's our job to show them and tell them about how tor is milking them dry, how ea/bw doesn't care about the game or them.
this is why i tell people about swg all the time in tor. sure i get the normal swg sucked bw fanbois however tonight i had 15 people ask me about why i loved swg and i told them about it and the freedom swg offered. most of them said they would push for bw to make tor more like swg or go play the emu.
EA cares about money, so they care about making tor earn more money. EA doesn't give a flying fuk about it's customers. But that goes for every EA game. They've never seen the value in a happy customer.
It isn't my job to tell people why a game sucks. If I think a game sucks that's my opinion of it. But constantly bitching about it and making sure everyone knows what you think of a game kind of makes you a douche. Just like if you were watching some sport on TV with friends and they are all cheering for their team while you're sitting there telling them that the team doesn't care about the fans and the tickets are all a rip off etc, etc. Do ppl really feel it's their job to be that guy ?
Edgar F Greenwood
SWTOR is a TORtanic. How is it good if 75%+ of the player-base left throughout launch to before the F2P model?
why is it your job?
Why not let people decide for themselves? Is there a video game company out there that doesn't care about money?
because its still the second largest western MMO
how good is SWG if 100% of the subscribers are gone now?