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Gats2k6 · November 2005

dang, From the little information that i found on their site and the ammount i've downloaded of videos. I thought it was a pretty sound game but obviousally not. I think im gonna hold back preordering so i don't order a flop or a vaporware game. You guys are right the devs need make more information available to the public seeing as that is kinda publicity and even more hype. What their doing in their furtive information and nda you think you would see whats going on. The Preorders could be way to get money then close down the project, thats one scenario. We need a right for better information. Im not in beta and just have been told by numerous others who are beta testers saying they are displeased with the game. Which hunch i take? lol i think im going with the beta testers since right from what they said is basically more than enough information to compete with the little amount on the dnl site.

infra172 · November 2005

A month ago I didn't believe any of the NDA leaks and would have killed to play the game. Things change when you do a little research.

Gats2k6 · November 2005

well some people don't like getting screwd over with no lube *shrug* 70 dollars is alot imo 60 was somewhat tolerable but 70 and for a game that isn't sounding to sound for me.

IIRL · November 2005

Originally posted by infra172
Dark and Light is inferior to just about every major MMO on the market in every area except for one. And that technology was stolen from another company.

You are so wrong in so many ways.

infra172 · November 2005

Originally posted by IIRL

Originally posted by infra172
Dark and Light is inferior to just about every major MMO on the market in every area except for one. And that technology was stolen from another company.

You are so wrong in so many ways.

Plant

Sandyar · November 2005

MMORPG industry seems to sink really deep when they feel the need to hire people to create account just to flame competeting companies. This msg board is not worth reading anymore because of this hope something done about it soon.

infra172 · November 2005

Who hired me? Where do I pick up my check? Why would anybody hire someone to post on message boards about 3 year old vaporware?

infra172 · November 2005

Who hired me? Where do I pick up my check? Why would anybody hire someone to post on message boards about 3 year old vaporware?

infra172 · December 2005

I'm resurrecting this thread to gloat.

Lanmoragon, angerr, IIRL, deggilator, Oakstead, kagda, Sandyar and others owe me an apology.

Since the original post, darkandlight.net has shut down the search function on its website so that other people can't look this stuff up. And SoG is turning out to be exactly what I said it would be: a few things hacked on top of the terrain engine they stole.

Does the game support hundreds of people in the same area without any lag like you said? LMAO.

I tried to save you guys $70 and all I got was grief.

-Inferno- · December 2005

*prostrates*

You hereby receive the honorary title of "Nostradamus 2005" ::::28::

infra172 · December 2005

Thank you. Please don't worship me as a god though. You'd never get a day off and I'd make you wash my feet.

Where are all the people who said the game was going to be great? They seem to have disappeared. Hmmmm.

tsr57 · December 2005

I would like to bask in your glory while making fun of the 8,000+ people who paid $60

Kilim · December 2005

I am one fo the 'UNLUCKY' Pioneers that have Pre-ordered.

The game at its current of SoG is crap.
Very outdated in many ways and riddled w/ bugs.

I do not see this game going to be released in April with the promises they are trying to deliver.
There has been MANY other Beta that are in better condition AFTER 4 months compared to D&L.

angerr · December 2005

Originally posted by infra172
I'm resurrecting this thread to gloat.Lanmoragon, angerr, IIRL, deggilator, Oakstead, kagda, Sandyar and others owe me an apology.Since the original post, darkandlight.net has shut down the search function on its website so that other people can't look this stuff up. And SoG is turning out to be exactly what I said it would be: a few things hacked on top of the terrain engine they stole.Does the game support hundreds of people in the same area without any lag like you said? LMAO.I tried to save you guys $70 and all I got was grief.

i was never a fanboy of this game or said any hater was ever wrong did i? i said you are a troll, just because you weren't wrong doesn't make you any less of a troll ::::28::

edit: and i never bought a key nor was i ever planning on it.

gervaise · December 2005

SoG looks good to me.

Problems at the moment getting the login servers properly up and running but this should be fixable. Underneath there is a rich game.

If I knew now what I knew before I pre-ordered ... I would still have pre-ordered.

Good in lots of areas: graphics - find a site and decide for yourself; sound - good now and when X-Fi is fully implemented will be awesome; character generation - very basic at the moment; imteface - needs changing; skill trees - old rpg like; there is collision detection mostly, superb line of site; chat channels are OK but more needed; mini-radar map enabled; forts are in and sieges mostly; as is PvP by the way; basic quests only so far and no live stuff at the moment - it goes on. It is real and for all its lag problems (and I usually don't suffer) it is far less than you get in Camelot (empty!) or Ironforge with many more toons.

I have played UO, EQ, EQ2, WoW, DAoC, CoH, AO, and more. This has serious potential. If SoG had been the commercial launch that would have been something else. But the issues are fixable.

Last month the detractors said it was vaporware. That the download would never be available. That the server would never open. Well SoG has opened and is intended to continue until at least April. Games which have taken this route - truly open 'beta' against which all can level attacks have come through much stronger. None of these bug ridden commercial releases.

Other beta games as good. Get the pictures posted, get the reviews out. DnL is now in the home straight heading for port. Yes it has been delayed and may be delayed again but I for onr believe that landfall is inevitable.

Roin · December 2005

Originally posted by angerr
Originally posted by infra172
I'm resurrecting this thread to gloat.Lanmoragon, angerr, IIRL, deggilator, Oakstead, kagda, Sandyar and others owe me an apology.Since the original post, darkandlight.net has shut down the search function on its website so that other people can't look this stuff up. And SoG is turning out to be exactly what I said it would be: a few things hacked on top of the terrain engine they stole.Does the game support hundreds of people in the same area without any lag like you said? LMAO.I tried to save you guys $70 and all I got was grief.

i was never a fanboy of this game or said any hater was ever wrong did i? i said you are a troll, just because you weren't wrong doesn't make you any less of a troll ::::28::

edit: and i never bought a key nor was i ever planning on it.

Well he proved he wasn't trolling. So how about you take that foot out of your mouth, and apologize.

Phife · December 2005

Kudos to the OP. It's all true, in black & white. Kind of hard to ignore a history of b.s. when the trail is 3 years long. BTW, sorry you got b& from DnL's site, but, what did you expect for calling them out? A high-five, perhaps? hehe.

It's bad enough that they kept delaying. The real travesty comes from the denials. You can see the optimism in people's posts when they say, "It's ok to delay a bit longer, just make sure your project is worthy." That's an honest trust from a gamer to a developer. The developers took advantage of that trust. It's disgusting.

If you honestly think DnL will be a complete game by April 2006, you have no need for a MMORPG, you already live in a fantasy world.

Zippy · December 2005

Originally posted by Phife

Kudos to the OP. It's all true, in black & white. Kind of hard to ignore a history of b.s. when the trail is 3 years long. BTW, sorry you got b& from DnL's site, but, what did you expect for calling them out? A high-five, perhaps? hehe.
It's bad enough that they kept delaying. The real travesty comes from the denials. You can see the optimism in people's posts when they say, "It's ok to delay a bit longer, just make sure your project is worthy." That's an honest trust from a gamer to a developer. The developers took advantage of that trust. It's disgusting.
If you honestly think DnL will be a complete game by April 2006, you have no need for a MMORPG, you already live in a fantasy world.

Nice post and great job by the OP. Has anyone seen the new story on SOG live where the Devs ignore the launch problems and declare that SoG has been a glowing success. But even worse they blame the stability problems not on their own incompetence but rather have the nerve to blame the computers of the people playing SoG. Hah, it's not our fault we made an unplayable game its your fault. What's next its not our fault we have a game that has no content besides a world and a flight simulator its your fault for expecting content, gameplay and a fun combat system.

http://www.darkandlight.net/article.php3?id_article=1589

I think this tells us all we need to know about Farlan. They will not admit they are wrong but rather will just continue to lie and blame others for inability to make a professional product.

Oh BTW not included inthe OP's post is that the original release date was scheduled for December 2002 and the devs stuck to this date as did the fanboys until late November of that year. So just add another year to the length of the delays.

-Inferno- · December 2005

Hmmm and they're French... I thought such stuff comes from the U.S. administration only ("The U.S. do not torture.") Next it is the players fault that DnL is cancelled, because of their audacity to complain and moan about the game all day long, scaring away precious investors for NP3. *shakes head* ::::12:: And we thought Mourning was bad? Haha ::::33::

angerr · December 2005

Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by angerr
Originally posted by infra172
I'm resurrecting this thread to gloat.Lanmoragon, angerr, IIRL, deggilator, Oakstead, kagda, Sandyar and others owe me an apology.Since the original post, darkandlight.net has shut down the search function on its website so that other people can't look this stuff up. And SoG is turning out to be exactly what I said it would be: a few things hacked on top of the terrain engine they stole.Does the game support hundreds of people in the same area without any lag like you said? LMAO.I tried to save you guys $70 and all I got was grief.

i was never a fanboy of this game or said any hater was ever wrong did i? i said you are a troll, just because you weren't wrong doesn't make you any less of a troll ::::28::

edit: and i never bought a key nor was i ever planning on it.

Well he proved he wasn't trolling. So how about you take that foot out of your mouth, and apologize.

proved he wasn't trolling? how do you figure that one? because he wasn't wrong? why should i apologize for calling him a troll when he has trolled these boards?

thats like saying jackdog and them never trolled because they turned out to be right lol

i could spam these boards saying G.W. is a idiot over and over, would i be right? yes...would i still be trolling? yes....get my point?

again i never was a fanboy of this game, i never said these guys were wrong.... ::::40::

infra172 · December 2005

I researched. I proved my point. I was right. And I got called a troll for my trouble.

Still waiting for an apology angerr...

And I think "gervaise" might be working for NPCube. Name sounds kind of French to me.

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