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Will SWTOR last another year or two?
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I have several lv. 55s that I left, along with many CM items that I got from the GTN by farming Makeb. So yes, I have played SWTOR, but I was solely a PvP'er. I actually have PvE'd before and have done a few Ops of both SM, HM and NiM, but after I realized how PvP was so much better, I never looked back and tried to avoid doing PvE whenever I could.
Anyways, I do scour the SWTOR forums at times when I'm super bored, and apparently I'm being accused of being some troll wandering there. Typical apologists. I almost feel sad for all of them. It's sad that the CMs let them off with just warnings at the very most, while pretty much the only critical poster left there is a forum member by the name of TUXs. Critical posters can't really post anything without censoring much of their criticism, and pretty much sugarcoating almost everything they say.
If EAware can't handle the criticism and "whining" of their customers, I'm not even sure why they chose to work in this industry. To be blunt, it's just completely pathetic.
You do know that you need an active sub to post in the SWTOR forums right?
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Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
SWTOR will survive but only because it's the only Star Wars MMORPG available. This situation is utter pants, in my opinion.
Keep on thinking what you want, Jurgens.
TORstatus.net will show you how the population has been increasing week after week.
Meanwhile, EA has said that
"Yes the original expectations obviously were very, very large, and obviously the multiplayer MMO world has - the popularly has come down over time and we tried to restructure the Star Wars business to better match the economics. It's a great business that's very repeatable, we brought the economics in line so it's a profitable business for us."
i.e. they are doing extremely well. Your $15 sub wont be missed, especially since you just renewed with a different account.
A Star Wars MMO should NEVER be limiting. I understand their frustration and can sympathize with them, even though I never played SWG. Just from reading posts about the game, it sounds like a great game. I really want to try out the EMU just to get a taste of what I missed out of SWG.
I am excited.
Love how you ignored the part about the game's increasing population (having valid proof unlike you) and EA saying that it's doing great business-wise (again, with proof unlike you).
Since you don't have a reply to that, you label me as a troll.
Oh Jurgens...
Can I please be MacJurgens too?
Apparently everyone with critizism for SWTOR is one and the same person. Perfect strategy to assume there is only one person with gripes about SWTOR.
So, according to your tinfoil hat impersonation theory, only one person unsubbed from SWTOR since launch. Namely the multiple personality guy "MrJurgens" who originally held 1.6 million accounts..
Yeah. Now it all makes sense.
/facepalm
These threads make me laugh. I think we made it to page 2 before the personal attacks started. The topic is silly as well. The game should operate for quite some time. If pwe can keep their garbage games running I don't see how EA would not be able to. The game is obviously profitable.
On a side note I'm starting to think it would be beneficial if mmorpg.com just removed the swtor forum so we could stop seeing the same argument everyday. They all devolve into the same mess.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
I just looked through the official forums. Apparently he's not the only one. But you sure did make a hilarious post! Thanks for the laugh. I think you won the internet for today.
Not only are some of these people committing ad hominem attacks, but they're libeling me too.
Even though this got sort of derailed due to the fact that some people want to libel me, most of the statistics I provided are correct. You can even look through the official SWTOR forum's PvP section. The PvP player-base is on a decline due to EAware not being able to retain them for long periods of time. Most of the players that leave just give up after the first or second time due to being engaged only temporarily.
Also, just because there have been articles that are months and months old stating that this has been profitable, yadda yadda, doesn't mean that SWTOR didn't lose over three-fourths of their player-base. They did, and because of declining sub numbers they are now suffering the consequences for their actions. As long as the game keeps focusing on the Cartel Market and not the loyal subscribers and both PvP and PvE, the game won't be able to engage most gamers for long periods of time.
Definitely agree with this.
I just come here to get some news and it's ridiculous seeing the same arguments bashing the game over and over again from the SWG fans.
Eric didn't actually say that. He suggested that 10M have enjoyed the game. Maybe he was talking about people. Not sure.
Say its people though. EA sold 2.4M boxes in the first 6 months after launch then announced 2M new accounts six months after it went f2p. That's 4.4M. Some extra box sales before it went f2p, some new signups post-Makeb but still that's 5M+ "missing" people. So was Eric counting free trial sign-ups (and probably double dipping) or was he talking about something else? Loggings since the game went f2p?
The 1M active somethings I believe - like you - must be people playing per month. 1M would be an average population of 2k per server across 17 servers. 1M per day would fry the servers. But maybe Eric meant something else.
I personally know two guys who grabbed up to five freebie accounts to
a) grab character names on different servers
b) try out weird stuff that could get them banned
c) get a fake sub referral to grab another snailspeed speeder (the one which looks like a starship enterprise baby walker)
Well this discussion...again. How original.
Listen, SWTOR will be around as long as BW wants it to be around end of story. They are launching a new pvp in space expansion and I just went back and played another toon to 50 and guess what? The population on my server at least was just fine.
I hate SW:TOR I really do, but my OPINION does not mean jack and shit about sub numbers and profit. The fact of the matter is they are making money off SW:TOR and will most likely continue to do so.
So I know you are butt hurt because they threw you off the official board and it would do your soul good to see the game wither and die in a matter of hours, but that isn't going to happen.
I suggest that you find another game to occupy your time and get over it. Stop posting pointless threads that sound like they were written up by a petulant teenager.
None of the points on your list are relevant or worth addressing.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
How do you know this?
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
I guess he knows like everyone knows. Two rounds of massive layoffs.
220 servers merged to 17. F2P in less than a year. Sub drop from 2.3 mill to below 500k.
The entire 9 year history of Star Wars Galaxies looks a lot prettier compared to that massive tanking of SWTOR.
Oh looks like you forgot to mention the CURRENT STATE OF THE GAME! Give up dude.
1,000,000 players playing every month (Swg could only dreamt of that)
new content every 4-6 weeks (sorry one employee could not do that) (pretty sure nobody is working on Swg)
they are hiring, it's also common for mmos to lay people off after released Swtor was no different.
they are making a profit(again swg closed cause it failed and was not is not making a profit)
yea we all know your routine buddy talk about the past Swtor at launch Swtor had Swtor did, to bad for you the CURRENT SWTOR is doing just fine and your sad desperate crusade won't change that.
Over two years and we still have people crying and whining about a video game they clearly do not play!!
Umm... Nope. SWG closed because of licensing conflicts with SW:TOR. I'm not saying it was doing super well or anything, but the FACT of why it HAD to be shut down was directly tied to SW:TOR and licensing.
"Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." - Louis Hector Berlioz
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
While I do share your opinion, I have to ask, the two highlighted sentences seem in conflict with each other.
Why would you play another character to 50 if you really hate the game.
I only disliked the end game part of it and only leveled 1 character to 50 then quit for good back at launch.
In fact, I don't play any games that I really dislike (hate's too strong a word) for any length of time, sometimes they don't last more than the 1st day.
Any game I get a character to 50 I can't say I totally disliked, and in most modern titles I enjoy their leveling aspects, just can't deal with their gear grinding end games.
Just got a 2nd level 50 in my DAOC freeshard (probably my 8th or 9th since I first played back in 2002) and I could never have done it if I disliked the game.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Clearly, you didn't get the memo.
First of all, I wasn't as critical about the game until time kept passing by, when EAware kept shafting PvP'ers and forum moderation was becoming more biased and unprofessional. Secondly, I was a blind fanboy up until sometime after they delayed Ranked WZs and the engine started acting a lot like **** around 1.4.
Thirdly, and most importantly, the subtle libel just shows how ridiculous and desperate the defenders will go to protect this game from anyone who dares question or criticize a decision or change with the game, or the game itself. Also, if you guys don't need to defend EAware or SWTOR, then why do you guys spend hours every day trolling the forums attacking critical posters who only wish to save the game from doom that's certain to happen in the future?
I have every right to make my criticisms and will praise EAware/SWTOR when I see when it's due. What the real problem is is that you defenders need some self-control, and if you don't like what the "Negative Nancys" have to say, stop trying to attack us, flame-bait us and derail our discussions just because we don't think SWTOR is the best thing since sliced bread. You aren't forced to read what we have to say. You just choose to, and you guys are at fault for putting yourselves through all the trouble at attempting to point out our "logical fallacies".
yeah the amount of personal attacks and insinuations around here is mind boggling.
Say one critical word about the game, and they jump out at you and attack you on a personal level. Terrible that people can't just discuss the situation instead of attacking a poster. Sad. And that tells a lot about the remaining SWTOR community.
First most games crack down on trolling on their forums this is why most games do not allow F2pers to post on forums. As it's been pointed out you were banned from Swtor forums for trolling now you are here to do the same thing cause this site is a safe haven for Swtor haters.
Second haters don't focus on the current game, the millions of player, the new content every 4-6 weeks, the fact the game is making a profit. Haters like you are stuck in the past it's always at launch, Swtor had , Swtor did at patch 1.4 etc etc. you don't went the game to be better who you kidding .
If haters don't want to be called out then stop making ignorant post stop crying and whining about a video game you don't play. Criticism is perfectly fine the game is not perfect not close but the sad desperate attempts made by the likes of you will continue to be called out . Your covers like you being banned from swtor will continue to be blow . And wishing and hoping any video game fails will continue to be sad and desperate .
I'm not comparing the population and I know that SWTOR has such a bigger population and just because the population of SWGEMU isn't even close the population of SWTOR doesn't make the SWGEMU population unimportant or "nobody". 2,000 people are simply 2,000 players. I wasn't comparing it earlier I was saying that people do actually play it and the population will most likely keep growing as the SWGEMU gets to where the final pre-cu version was, which isn't too far from now.
@kicksave321
just wondering, is there anything you would criticize about SWTOR or is it in your opinion "10/10 perfect game"