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[Column] WildStar: Heading to Nexus

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Now that the wraps are off the NDA and WildStar coverage, we have even more goodness for our readers in today's column. Find out why heading to Nexus is a great idea before leaving your thoughts in the comments.

What about the lure of Lore? At first glance, WildStar’s storytelling is all about the factional conflict. But there’s another thread that we discover before even landing planetside – involving the Eldan, Nexus, and much more. While it initially feels like a sideshow, I have a feeling that it might grow to become the main tale. 

Read more of Gareth Harmer's WildStar: Heading to Nexus.

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  • SiveriaSiveria Member UncommonPosts: 1,421
    [mod edit]game looks alright, and I love a good sci-fi mystery plot, so now I am even more intersted in wildstar. Just really wish I could get into beta, because otherwise I won't touch it on release without prior time playing it, been burned by to many p2p mmorpgs in recent years to buy one on a whim anymore.

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  • ITPalgITPalg Member UncommonPosts: 314

    It is important to note that NDA is still in effect for the average player:

     

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    The NDA is still in place for #WildStar! Some fansites/press & streamers have been given permission to post level 1-15 content. :)

     

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  • RinnaRinna Member UncommonPosts: 389
    I just want a release date prior to 2/1/2014 and all will be well in the world. 5 years of fan fatigue has left me listless. Carbine needs to walk the walk and release already.

    No bitchers.

  • Harbinger1975Harbinger1975 Member UncommonPosts: 244
    I disagree, Rinna.  Let Carbine put the right touches on Wildstar.  Don't wish for a rushed project or you will just get what the past MMO's have been.  A rushed failure that you will end up complaining about because it wasn't given enough time.

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  • Binny45Binny45 Member UncommonPosts: 522
    $59.99 for a box + subscription eh?  That's pretty steep by todays standards given the average performance of MMO's on launch these days.

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Aww, I was hoping the NDA was lifted for everyone, then we could see and tell some unbiased reviews. Press is never a good judment as to how good an mmorpg is, they play 15 minutes to an hour and give what's called a review.

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  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258

    Still not feeling it. From the videos it still looks like the typical DaoC/WoW clone with a few extra features. I cannot bring myself to ever play another clone again, they cannot hold me long enough because once the "new" novelty wears off, its quitting time.

    The genre needs an enema to purge itself of the clones that's binding it up.

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  • ChaserzChaserz Member RarePosts: 336
    There are two MMO players IMO, the immersioners and the mechanics.   I'm the former.  Not for me, but I hope it succeeds and delivers lots of fun to those that play. 
  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Member UncommonPosts: 759
    Originally posted by Binny45
    $59.99 for a box + subscription eh?  That's pretty steep by todays standards given the average performance of MMO's on launch these days.

    You can always go back to poorly supported f2p model mmos that end up costing 10x that much for the same features, content, etc.


  • OricyOricy Member UncommonPosts: 12
    wish more people could have the same attitude that you have. Everyone is so quick to spread hate on something they don't want/care for.

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  • ChaserzChaserz Member RarePosts: 336
    Originally posted by NobleNerd
    Originally posted by Binny45
    $59.99 for a box + subscription eh?  That's pretty steep by todays standards given the average performance of MMO's on launch these days.

    You can always go back to poorly supported f2p model mmos that end up costing 10x that much for the same features, content, etc.

    We didn't realize those were the only options in the MMO industry.  Thank you for your insightful advice.

     

  • furbansfurbans Member UncommonPosts: 968
    Originally posted by NobleNerd
    Originally posted by Binny45
    $59.99 for a box + subscription eh?  That's pretty steep by todays standards given the average performance of MMO's on launch these days.

    You can always go back to poorly supported f2p model mmos that end up costing 10x that much for the same features, content, etc.

    Actually, no.  F2P costing 10x is a myth.  Sure one can spend that much if they want a lot of goodies but the avg F2P model is really cheap and cheaper than a P2P.  However, the quality sacrifice is evident on the avg F2P MMO.

    Binny was more pointing out that paying retail plus sub does get expensive and old when every MMO pretty much dies off after a few months.  I for one find Wildstar intriguing but I am not going to be there at launch day.  I'll wait a few months and see the reception and see if it is the same ol' same ol' or if it actually does deliver in the eyes of the consumer.

  • FusionFusion Member UncommonPosts: 1,398
    Definitely intriguing game that i'll be buying on day 1, it's "got it all" setting, lore, proper raids, pvp, housing, aesthetics that clicks (with me) etc.
    http://neocron-game.com/ - now totally F2P no cash-shops or micro transactions at all.
  • MaelzraelMaelzrael Member UncommonPosts: 405

    This article has solidified that I will be subbing to this game for quite a while. I already planned on playing at launch, but up till now I have not known much about the lore other then from videos and this let me know that the game world takes itself more seriously then I thought. I was slightly worried it would be like Tera with races that just mean absolutely nothing.. but it sounds like there is more to it then that. 

    Thanks, can I get a launch date? :P


  • CullandCulland Member UncommonPosts: 22

    I spent some time today looking over the Wildstar website and I gotta say the guy doing the class dev-talk video is really great, makes you laugh and sparks an interest in all the classes. Good work on the marketing angle.

     

     

  • NagelRitterNagelRitter Member Posts: 607
    Originally posted by Maelzrael

    I was slightly worried it would be like Tera with races that just mean absolutely nothing.. but it sounds like there is more to it then that. 

    Well, I mean, they really don't exactly mean anything. There are no racials or w/e.

    Favorite MMO: Vanilla WoW
    Currently playing: GW2, EVE
    Excited for: Wildstar, maybe?

  • BaefferBaeffer Member UncommonPosts: 5
    Originally posted by Binny45
    $59.99 for a box + subscription eh?  That's pretty steep by todays standards given the average performance of MMO's on launch these days.

    Look on their website at their business model. It's a  bit different. The $59.99 comes with 30 days free. You don't need to pay a monthly sub, you can but you can also play with in game currency to buy CREDD to pay the sub. It's actually a p2p (play to pay) model or a p2p (pay to play) depended on which way you like it.

  • NizinNizin Member Posts: 3
    Like someone said im not gonna drop $60 plus a $15 sub fee without getting my hands on a little bit of the beta. If carbine cant make that happen then they fail just like every other clone, they have been shady on the beta invites and that drives the people who have followed since day one to find flaws and a reason not to be a part of this game.
  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    I guess everyone who has followed the market in recent years knows that the game is bound to go F2P and Carbine/NCSoft may know that as well.

    But instead of going F2P right away, companies rather exploit the subscription market for a year+ (to rake in some development costs) and then roll F2P after -because they can. And as long as the customer plays along, why shoudnt they.

    Wildstar and ESO aren't any different.

     

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    I agree with Azureal, though I wouldn't have put it quite that way. It's true though.

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  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,703
    It is an unwritten rule (or maybe it is written somewhere) that all mmo's must sooner or later have a place/feature/etc named Nexus.
  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    Originally posted by furbans
    Originally posted by NobleNerd
    Originally posted by Binny45
    $59.99 for a box + subscription eh?  That's pretty steep by todays standards given the average performance of MMO's on launch these days.

    You can always go back to poorly supported f2p model mmos that end up costing 10x that much for the same features, content, etc.

    Actually, no.  F2P costing 10x is a myth.  Sure one can spend that much if they want a lot of goodies but the avg F2P model is really cheap and cheaper than a P2P.  However, the quality sacrifice is evident on the avg F2P MMO.

    Binny was more pointing out that paying retail plus sub does get expensive and old when every MMO pretty much dies off after a few months.  I for one find Wildstar intriguing but I am not going to be there at launch day.  I'll wait a few months and see the reception and see if it is the same ol' same ol' or if it actually does deliver in the eyes of the consumer.

    If you want to enjoy the content offered in a f2p, 10x is NOT a myth at all it is a fact.  Sure you can play for free for a while, but to get even close to to upper levels the item shop purchasing starts in earnest.  That is just about any f2p that does not offer fremium.  To add to that the support in most f2p games is atrocious.

    And  Azureal does not know what he is talking about..

  • haibanehaibane Member Posts: 178

    As long as Carbine doesn't take preorders including beta, the game will not be close to release.

    Their exec producer said it wasn't ready for them and that they needed enough players input from beta to think about release. They don't seem to be in a hurry and they don't want to do lile most mmos, release a half-assed product.

    So far, nothing above lvl 37 has been tested, no end game or anything. They need to test all that and more, before thinking about release. And that's a good thing.

    I'd rather have them take their time and release an enjoyable MMO than anything else.

    This is exactly their aim too, as they want player retention and not a flash fire mmo where u sell milions of copies quickly then everyone leaves a couple months later (say, GW2, TOR...). 

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  • CatAtomic99CatAtomic99 Member UncommonPosts: 62
    Originally posted by JJ82

    Still not feeling it. From the videos it still looks like the typical DaoC/WoW clone with a few extra features. I cannot bring myself to ever play another clone again, they cannot hold me long enough because once the "new" novelty wears off, its quitting time.

    The genre needs an enema to purge itself of the clones that's binding it up.

    That's exactly how it seems to me, too. I find it very difficult to excited about any new triple-A MMORPG these days. They just keep turning out to be WoW with a new skin.

  • MatryoshkaMatryoshka Member UncommonPosts: 98
    Originally posted by CatAtomic99
    Originally posted by JJ82

    Still not feeling it. From the videos it still looks like the typical DaoC/WoW clone with a few extra features. I cannot bring myself to ever play another clone again, they cannot hold me long enough because once the "new" novelty wears off, its quitting time.

    The genre needs an enema to purge itself of the clones that's binding it up.

    That's exactly how it seems to me, too. I find it very difficult to excited about any new triple-A MMORPG these days. They just keep turning out to be WoW with a new skin.

    According to the MMO community, every new MMO is just WoW with a new skin. In every thread someone always says it. It doesn't matter what the game is or how it plays, ESO, Wildstar, they are just "WoW with a new skin".

    I'm starting to wonder if WoW is the only MMO these people have played so it's the only thing they have to compare other MMOs to, to be honest.

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