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Study on how intense gaming can affect real world perception

TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

From an article on Massively.com titled Study shows intense gaming can cause changes in real-life perception about a study titled Altered Visual Perception in Game Transfer Phenomena: An Empirical Self-Report Study I have learned that there is a name for seeing everything as blocks that can be stacked or mined after playing Minecraft for awhile. :-)

Basically the perceptions people have in games after intense gaming sessions carry over into real life. In flight aircraft being perceived as UAVs, things looking like Minecraft blocks and people seeing the Mass Effect conversation wheel in their head during conversations with real people are all examples of this.

I have had the "Minecraft Sickness", and so has my wife. :-) I've also gotten spooked by games like Silent Hill even though I don't believe in, nor have I seen ghosts and such.

How about you? Have you ever experienced anything like this?

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  • centkincentkin Member RarePosts: 1,527
    Too much harvesting/gathering in some games and you start to pick out potential nodes in real life.  It is kind of creepy how such things can stand out.
  • ViperDragonViperDragon Member UncommonPosts: 101

    Great post.

    I write horror novels for a living, so - despite what you'd believe - I get spooked quite easily.  Most horror-themed games have a real-world impact on me; just like most other entertainment mediums: TV, movies, books.  The biggest thing I notice, however, is in the way I physically move around the real world.  Depending on what game I've been playing, I'll catch myself mimicking the character's animations.  Craziness!

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  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    the only thing that seems to be affected are my dreams (from gaming)

     

    otherwise,

    what i experience has more to do with sitting in front of the computer for too long

    regardless of what I'm doing on the computer image

  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679

    Never experienced anything like this. After some intense gaming I can have it affect my dreams, but whilst I'm awake, never.

     

    Seems weird that people would have such a problem.

  • BunnykingBunnyking Member UncommonPosts: 126
    Not so much gaming, but I did have a period where I used a certain style in my graphic work and I started to see the same 'textures and gradients' in real life. As if the work had washed into my eyes and was covering things with a sort of filter.
  • RandaynRandayn Member UncommonPosts: 904
    Grand Theft Auto....I get very wreckless when I'm driving after playing for a while :P

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130

    With regards to the Mass Effect conversation wheel, it could happen, but would mean a significant disconnect from reality. You can basically make yourself hallucinate about anything, on your own, right in the comfort of your own home. It's about sensory deprivation. If you remove all external stimuli and think about kicking some ass with the carebears, you can do that! 

     

    However, the whole thing about actually carrying on a conversation with the wheel sounds like bullshit to me. As soon as stimuli is re-introduced to the brain, it's really difficult to maintain that alternate reality, though because things like sight and sound are now being detected. It likely works on the same premise as hypnotic suggestion. 

     

    Then again, it says they selected their users from gaming forums, and we know how full of shit those people are :) Basically 500 trolls trolling science.

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  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258
    Originally posted by lizardbones

    How about you? Have you ever experienced anything like this?

     This is something that can be applied to everything.

    I used to be a programmer and after my first few days of working as one I was having almost a matrix like effect seeing code on objects, would close my eyes and see code as well.

    Some people who work in factories would say that their spouses would tell them that they were working while they were sleeping, arm movements and everything.

    Extreme repetition does this no matter what it is you are doing.

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  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818

    I get the lack of stimulation thing, where if you play a long time then get off to go do something else, that lack of constant stimulation makes me very detached and sleepy.

    I've never actually seen blocks or anything like that. You often see people over simplify life in general because of games though. Not really sure it's related. An example is world of tanks. So many people think the tank in game should act like a real tank because it looks like a tank. The fact that everything that tank does, it does because someone programed it, seems lost on them.

  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385

    I have experienced the "phenomenon" but only after playing puzzle games like Candy Crush and similar games.  The way I see it, our brains are designed to learn.  If you teach yourself to recognize certain patterns and react to them, then practice what you learned, you will get better at it.

    I can see how this could lead to dangerous activities for those who have more trouble separating their gaming thoughts from reality, but I think it has more potential benefits to society than harm.  For example, Minecraft players learn to explore their creative side and their engineering side.  If they build things in real life, maybe they will see a better way of doing something.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by CrazKanuk
    With regards to the Mass Effect conversation wheel, it could happen, but would mean a significant disconnect from reality. You can basically make yourself hallucinate about anything, on your own, right in the comfort of your own home. It's about sensory deprivation. If you remove all external stimuli and think about kicking some ass with the carebears, you can do that! 

     

    However, the whole thing about actually carrying on a conversation with the wheel sounds like bullshit to me. As soon as stimuli is re-introduced to the brain, it's really difficult to maintain that alternate reality, though because things like sight and sound are now being detected. It likely works on the same premise as hypnotic suggestion. 

     

    Then again, it says they selected their users from gaming forums, and we know how full of shit those people are :) Basically 500 trolls trolling science.



    When you're talking to someone, your responses are going to fall into a spectrum of possible choices, and there's not going to be many of those choices in how you respond. Seeing the conversation wheel could just be the possible responses they might have, and they can just choose the one they want, or more likely they are having the conversation like they always would, but they are seeing their choices internally represented as a conversation wheel. The visualization happens after the fact, not before the fact.

    **

    The mechanics of the conversation do not change, only the internal perception of the conversation.

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  • HothloveHothlove Member UncommonPosts: 126
    I remember walking like the high elves from Everquest when I played it.
  • HothloveHothlove Member UncommonPosts: 126

    Also a guy I knew played games everyday long for 15 years and he got more and more hot tempered, back talking friends alot and megalomaniac. I dont speak with him today but I cant help laughing when once he sended me a tell that was for his buddy where he said some nasty stuff about me, and he always used to send tells to me about that other guy how dumb he was lol. I think he is quite an extreme example but only playing games isnt healthy it is some sort of ludomaniac just without the gambling part. Adicted he is for sure. He onced said to me 'I havent kissed a girl for 10 years'......

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by Hothlove
    I remember walking like the high elves from Everquest when I played it.

    How do the High Elves walk?

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  • DerrosDerros Member UncommonPosts: 1,216
    I've experienced this a bit, after a long day at work and a tough drive home ahead of me, I find myself considering just using my hearthstone to port home, until I remember I cant do that >_<.
  • MikePaladinMikePaladin Member UncommonPosts: 592

    After I was arrested my parents bought me PC and until today I never had problems I finished school with good grades. Graduated University. And all this time I always played  games. Some times I was playing all day and all night I was studying for exams which I had next day and still I passed  them all I had less debt than most students.

    So this affirmation is not from category  YES  or NO  because it depends from one  individual to another.

    First thing which is important is education you receive from  parents.  Later when child form new habits I think parents must explain to them  that this is bad and this is good. And I'm saying this because now these new modern parents are very lazy and they don't treat kids correctly  and spoil them.  Damn I will need to type a lot to type in order to explain all....

    Short

    If parents build a good foundation for the child and support them in their daily new experiences including in game or on internet there should be no worries.

    If foundation is build with indifference with no care no love no support than in this case kid will transform in one of those Call of duty  kid that range on microfone.

    Also it can't affect real life perception because if you're extremely rude in real life you will get your ass beaten pretty fast.

  • KenFisherKenFisher Member UncommonPosts: 5,035

    Game reality displaces real reality during immersion while gaming.

     

    If understanding reality is based on perception, and perception of reality is altered during gaming, it is quite understandable for that change of perception to linger once gaming is terminated.

     

    Do you think that's air you're breathing?

     


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  • steelslingasteelslinga Member UncommonPosts: 25

    reminds me of the time I was at the pub and saw a few random chicks roaming on the far side of the room. one of the chicks was EPIC sexy and I wanted to get her attention but not have to talk to her entourage of friends.. so that pretty much cancelled out a body pull and I decided to go with a ranged.

    i pulled the straw out of my drink, tore up a napkin and loaded my   lvl 1 crafted  P Shooter and ripped one loose ...

    AND Boom! HEADSHOT! turns out it was a social mob of hotness and they all came running at me pulling all kinds of adds along the way

    i chugged my Corona of Wobbliness  , turned and sprinted towards the door .

     

    no lie i pulled that train all the way past the parking lot and then some before they reset and went back to the bar ...

    to top it off my friends just pulled up and were laughin as i ran past and yelled " Train, i'll run them off and brb!!!!"

     

    aside from that one time i have no clue what you are talking about.

     

     

  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 3,029
    Kinda true for example I thought that if I killed a pig a hide might jump out. I guess more extreme situations could exist in the world and someone would be stupid enough to try it irl.

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  • HolophonistHolophonist Member UncommonPosts: 2,091
    I guess this explains why I kept picturing my pillows as being a mineral line in sc2. And for that matter, why I think in Ebonics after watching the Wire.
  • MordithMordith Member UncommonPosts: 210

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by lizardbones

     


    Originally posted by CrazKanuk
    With regards to the Mass Effect conversation wheel, it could happen, but would mean a significant disconnect from reality. You can basically make yourself hallucinate about anything, on your own, right in the comfort of your own home. It's about sensory deprivation. If you remove all external stimuli and think about kicking some ass with the carebears, you can do that! 

     

     

    However, the whole thing about actually carrying on a conversation with the wheel sounds like bullshit to me. As soon as stimuli is re-introduced to the brain, it's really difficult to maintain that alternate reality, though because things like sight and sound are now being detected. It likely works on the same premise as hypnotic suggestion. 

     

    Then again, it says they selected their users from gaming forums, and we know how full of shit those people are :) Basically 500 trolls trolling science.



    When you're talking to someone, your responses are going to fall into a spectrum of possible choices, and there's not going to be many of those choices in how you respond. Seeing the conversation wheel could just be the possible responses they might have, and they can just choose the one they want, or more likely they are having the conversation like they always would, but they are seeing their choices internally represented as a conversation wheel. The visualization happens after the fact, not before the fact.

    **

    The mechanics of the conversation do not change, only the internal perception of the conversation.

     

    The problem is that in order to get into this state you need to be hallucinating. You cannot alter reality while your sensory receptors are working correctly. If you see something or hear something you have a much wider range of data to reference than what is found in a video game. Maybe if you played a game in a completely isolated area for your entire life, you'd see an altered reality. 

     

    The way that physical hallucination works is that you deprive the body of all stimuli. It's like with acid, you're altering your brain chemistry in such a way that you deprive it of any sensory information. The only issue is that you can't simply take off earphones or anything like that. It wears off whenever. 

     

    Again, I don't know what the environment was for the testing, but unless they were kept in a sensory-deprived state while carrying on a conversation, so there is no context other than what they experienced in the game, then it's bull. 

     

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  • JaedorJaedor Member UncommonPosts: 1,173

    Seems like it has more to do with what catches your attention. If you spend hours engaged with Minecraft blocks, for example, it seems reasonable that the 90 degree angles of objects in the world will catch your attention, remind you of Minecraft and the rest gets filled in by memory.


    Most guilds I've been in over the last 8 years or so have a thread somewhere on their website called, "You know you are playing too much [fill in the blank] when..." and people post pages and pages of examples of this phenomenon. My most recent experience of it was a while back when I was very busy building dimensions in Rift. And I would see trees, shrubs and flowers while driving that looked very much like the ones I was using in Rift. I could see my mind mentally cataloging each piece and labeling it based on what it was called in the game.


    Anyway, it seems like a common enough phenomena that is not exclusive to gaming.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by CrazKanuk
    Originally posted by lizardbones   Originally posted by CrazKanuk With regards to the Mass Effect conversation wheel, it could happen, but would mean a significant disconnect from reality. You can basically make yourself hallucinate about anything, on your own, right in the comfort of your own home. It's about sensory deprivation. If you remove all external stimuli and think about kicking some ass with the carebears, you can do that!      However, the whole thing about actually carrying on a conversation with the wheel sounds like bullshit to me. As soon as stimuli is re-introduced to the brain, it's really difficult to maintain that alternate reality, though because things like sight and sound are now being detected. It likely works on the same premise as hypnotic suggestion.    Then again, it says they selected their users from gaming forums, and we know how full of shit those people are :) Basically 500 trolls trolling science.
    When you're talking to someone, your responses are going to fall into a spectrum of possible choices, and there's not going to be many of those choices in how you respond. Seeing the conversation wheel could just be the possible responses they might have, and they can just choose the one they want, or more likely they are having the conversation like they always would, but they are seeing their choices internally represented as a conversation wheel. The visualization happens after the fact, not before the fact. ** The mechanics of the conversation do not change, only the internal perception of the conversation.  
    The problem is that in order to get into this state you need to be hallucinating. You cannot alter reality while your sensory receptors are working correctly. If you see something or hear something you have a much wider range of data to reference than what is found in a video game. Maybe if you played a game in a completely isolated area for your entire life, you'd see an altered reality. 

     

    The way that physical hallucination works is that you deprive the body of all stimuli. It's like with acid, you're altering your brain chemistry in such a way that you deprive it of any sensory information. The only issue is that you can't simply take off earphones or anything like that. It wears off whenever. 

     

    Again, I don't know what the environment was for the testing, but unless they were kept in a sensory-deprived state while carrying on a conversation, so there is no context other than what they experienced in the game, then it's bull. 

     




    You do realize that people have different levels of internal activity that they are aware of and unaware of? It's perfectly possible to visualize conversation choices as a wheel of options while talking to someone. It would be analogous to visualizing a place that you've visited before while talking about places you've visited. Instead of visualizing an image of the conversation topics, these people are visualizing their conversation options, in the format of whatever the Mass Effect wheel looks like.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by emperorwings
    Kinda true for example I thought that if I killed a pig a hide might jump out. I guess more extreme situations could exist in the world and someone would be stupid enough to try it irl.

    This is probably the distinction between hallucinations that are bad, and hallucinations that are interesting. A schizophrenic would have that thought or hallucination, and then kill the pig. The average person would have that thought, think, "Man, that's weird", and then get on with their day.

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