I recall seeing some pictures with armor actually on top of the model and not just a skin, has that been removed from the game to improve performance or whatever? :O That would be really bad, the looks of my char means quite a bit to me and if my plate armor is just a skin on the char model it's going to be tough to swallow. I hope they didnt go some stupid ass "well wow has only skins and is popular" reasoning with.
Anyway, keeping my preorder since there's nothing else to play and I havent played a fantasy mmorpg or even a singleplayer game in a good while, so I'll check this one out. Probably the standard modern mmorpg outcome, play through the story, get to max level, game "finished" and move on.
I recall seeing some pictures with armor actually on top of the model and not just a skin, has that been removed from the game to improve performance or whatever? :O That would be really bad, the looks of my char means quite a bit to me and if my plate armor is just a skin on the char model it's going to be tough to swallow. I hope they didnt go some stupid ass "well wow has only skins and is popular" reasoning with.
Anyway, keeping my preorder since there's nothing else to play and I havent played a fantasy mmorpg or even a singleplayer game in a good while, so I'll check this one out. Probably the standard modern mmorpg outcome, play through the story, get to max level, game "finished" and move on.
I'm confused, how did you get on the line of reasoning that they made the armors into 'skins'.
I recall seeing some pictures with armor actually on top of the model and not just a skin, has that been removed from the game to improve performance or whatever? :O That would be really bad, the looks of my char means quite a bit to me and if my plate armor is just a skin on the char model it's going to be tough to swallow. I hope they didnt go some stupid ass "well wow has only skins and is popular" reasoning with.
Anyway, keeping my preorder since there's nothing else to play and I havent played a fantasy mmorpg or even a singleplayer game in a good while, so I'll check this one out. Probably the standard modern mmorpg outcome, play through the story, get to max level, game "finished" and move on.
I'm confused, how did you get on the line of reasoning that they made the armors into 'skins'.
Also, how would this be worse / better?
How would you even be able to tell?
>.>
Because I actually watched Bill's video and the armor on his char indeed is just a "skin paint" so it's quite dissapointing. Though I've already seen some footage where the "end game gear" if you can call it that, looks just great and not just a skin paint.
How am I able to tell? Well you know, when you put a jacket on, you get that extra layer of thickness on top of you, and all those details, etc. Then again, if you paint your skin, it's just a painted skin. Surely you must be able to tell the difference? :O
I still fully intend for this to be a day 1 purchase but I am not without severe apprehension. I'm just hoping the Adventure Zones deliver something special. For the most part the main reason that has kept me from playing any MMO for longer then a month or 2 since I quit WoW 3 years ago is not an issue with ESO. Day 1 Dungeon Finder or LFG mechanic is hugely important for my longevity.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
This is pretty easy for me to compare to Skyrim. The only thing ESO has over Skyrim is multiplayer everything else Skyrim does better. Just way too much compromise to the Elder Scrolls to make it an MMO.
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I don't see how slow leveling is in your "bad" stuff, that's one of the best aspects in my opinion. I've been playing this genre for a long time and in recent years every time a new title releases it's always the same thing. Idiots blast through the leveling part in mere days by playing 24-7 so they can brag about being one of the first, but then all they do is taint game website forums about how they're bored and there's nothing to do at cap. It's great to hear that after so much time you barely have any abilities, there's nothing worse than getting all the great stuff early on, then you lose something to look forward to. I am ecstatic the developers put that much time into this part of the game since that's the main aspect of the genre. This game is all about exploration, and being able to fly through all the areas would really kill the experience.
I didn't like Skyrim so i won't like this either no matter how rave reviews this game gets upon release.The fact its not f2p only solidifies i won't be playing this.
Mr. Murphy, you my friend have restored my faith in MMORPG.com. I completely agree with your entire review. I am an old school gamer, from the days of EQOA and Everquest and Dice rolling Dungeons and Dragons. I used to roll dice when I was younger, I am now a middle aged person who remembers what role playing and storytelling was like. For me, storytelling is one of the most important parts of a game, same goes for visual immersion into the game world.
This game is what It means to be an old school gamer. From the days of rolling dice and thinking of a game and wait for your GM to tell you more of the storyline and allow your imagination to take you places and show you a storyline with many challenging choices in that storyline. To the visuals of games which allowed you to really want to feel like you were a part of a fantasy world and be able to lose in a storyline, to take things one step at a time and enjoy the beauty of a world around you.
I think what I am getting at is what we wanted in our youth so much was a game like this, a game that could facilitate our story wants and pairing it up with our visual and hearing to give us a feeling we are actually in that world we so loved to Role Play in our minds.
What the younger generation and some people without patience do not understand these days due to so many games that have fast paced action and cartoons that always offer action every second of the day, is to enjoy the flowers, to just let go and enjoy the beauty of life, to taste a game like fine wine.
This game is meant to be for people who take their time and enjoy RP, to search every crate, to search every barrel, to talk to every NPC, to take our time and smell the flowers of immersion and storytelling. To check out a door that's out of place, to go look in spots in the game world that are remote and secret, to go and look for hidden coves and treasure. To stand in front of a book case and actually read a story that takes 10 minutes long and to really imagine that story and enjoy it.
In conclusion it does not surprise me that anyone without patience and majority of younger gamers would not like this, they are blindsided by advertising of action and adventure that robs them of immersion and storytelling. I am really glad they made this game, the closest that has ever came to it to date was LOTRO Mines of Moria storytelling, which is an expansion that hit Number 1 by the way. There is many of us OLD RPG players who have enough money to make a game successful still, and let the youth have their action games and cartoon type games, its ok, as for me I got what I want this year and if your an old school RPG fan, you did also. Thank you for your review Mr. Murphy, I enjoyed it.
Originally posted by mohit9206 I didn't like Skyrim so i won't like this either no matter how rave reviews this game gets upon release.The fact its not f2p only solidifies i won't be playing this.
So all games should be free...why would game company make a game without trying to make profit? Plenty of f2p options out there, enjoy.
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Armour : I had the same feeling about armour in SWTOR. Armour felt like body paint, and not clothing that was rigged to a character. But the armour at the end of this video didn’t seem flat or painted on, so I wish your video had a true and clear example.
Phasing : Again back to SWTOR, especially in the starting zone, you were often on the same quest chain as your group members. In default mode you couldn’t enter the same story instance as a group members. But you could go into the options and change this so you could enter someone else's instance and do the quest chain one at a time. This is probably meant to create mixed class groups, who are not on the same quest chain. I say this is poor planning.
Slow : I expect you played the game as intended at an efficiency of 60%. I predict that a group playing at an efficiency of 90% will reach level cap in a month or less. BTW I was probably being generous with the 60%, more likely you were at 45%. At the end of the video you ran by bears, and through wolves? Maybe this was lower level content that you had passed, so they didn’t react to you. As I see it, the bears and wolves are the unmarked kill 10 of X side quest, you are suppose to be smart enough to do on your own in any sandbox environment. When players don’t do them, their efficiency drops. Just because a sandbox doesn’t give you the typical theme park quest doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
Combat : Action combat (FPS), I say if anything should be called pay to win it’s action combat. I have a slow machine 2x cpu, 2Gig ram, and GT440. Among the people I know, people at work, people I play online with, and the people at my local comic book store; I have the fastest rig. Thats nearly 100 people, and we are not the only people in this world with poor rigs. So who ever has the money to pay for a fast rig (P2W), will win at the combat game. Just look at SWG:CU (similar action combat), and Tera(SWG:CU try number 2 at combat). Why do some players like action combat over RPG combat(Tab Targeting)? Because it exploits the hardware of 75% of the gaming population.
Very Immersive : I agree the in game limits on Immersive (Killing and Looting) are very necessary. A large segment of the population finds it immersive to play denial of service (D.O.S.) with other players. Especially with those players who don’t want to play D.O.S.
Questing with a Purpose : I suspect, you were only doing 45% of the game content. You ran past all those killable xp generating mobs, because you weren’t given a kill 10 of X quest for them.
The Lore Library : Oh good, it has a game feature that has been around for decades. Even exists in games ridiculed in this article.
Meaningful Crafting : I luv crafting, its my primary reason for playing RPGs. But the vast majority of gamers hate crafters and crafting. When your read post about poor game economy, they often boil down to players (PvE & PvP) against crafters. If Loot = Crafted all the way to level cap and beyond I will be surprised. I predict it will end 5 or 10 levels before end game content level.
Incredible Freedom of Progression : When I read “my Khajit plate-wearing, dual-dagger wielding, daedric summoning Sorcerer that I realized I was hooked.” I hear, welcome to lets play Flavor of the Month Build. Here is how the game will be played. Whats more powerful, pet or no pet? What is more survivable Heavy armour or Light armour? What has the higher DPS one handed, two handed, or dual wield? Spells or no spells? What will you see? All players playing the same armour level or the max their build will allow. All players playing the same weapon or the nearest they can acquire. This is why SWG-PreCU was called FOTM the game.
This is a simple game for simple folk. And just like GW2, the player base will realize it is a dumbed down game
I am not under an NDA.
Pardon any spelling errors
Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
Just want to reiterate what I said elsewhere: the NDA still applies to non-press. This means you cannot offer or discuss any of your impressions of the beta, even if its stuff touched on in any of our articles today until ZOS drops the NDA for everyone.
I know that puts many of you who have played the beta in a weird place when looking to comment on this article since you have your own experiences to relate back to, but please keep this in mind when posting. Thanks!
then they need to remove the ability to add comments,since the only people who play the beta will leave comments.in fact why not block press form posting since it is their opinion of the game and not facts.i am sure you would go after press who posted neg about the game.
Combat : Action combat (FPS), I say if anything should be called pay to win it’s action combat. I have a slow machine 2x cpu, 2Gig ram, and GT440. Among the people I know, people at work, people I play online with, and the people at my local comic book store; I have the fastest rig. Thats nearly 100 people, and we are not the only people in this world with poor rigs. So who ever has the money to pay for a fast rig (P2W), will win at the combat game. Just look at SWG:CU (similar action combat), and Tera(SWG:CU try number 2 at combat). Why do some players like action combat over RPG combat(Tab Targeting)? Because it exploits the hardware of 75% of the gaming population.
Did you........my god....did you just call Action combat as Pay-to-win? There could not be a Facepalm imgae that i could post here that would summarise my reaction reading this.
Holy shit, just get a better machine or don't buy the game. Case closed. There are requirements which are made public.
Combat : Action combat (FPS), I say if anything should be called pay to win it’s action combat. I have a slow machine 2x cpu, 2Gig ram, and GT440. Among the people I know, people at work, people I play online with, and the people at my local comic book store; I have the fastest rig. Thats nearly 100 people, and we are not the only people in this world with poor rigs. So who ever has the money to pay for a fast rig (P2W), will win at the combat game. Just look at SWG:CU (similar action combat), and Tera(SWG:CU try number 2 at combat). Why do some players like action combat over RPG combat(Tab Targeting)? Because it exploits the hardware of 75% of the gaming population.
Did you........my god....did you just call Action combat as Pay-to-win? There could not be a Facepalm imgae that i could post here that would summarise my reaction reading this.
Holy shit, just get a better machine or don't buy the game. Case closed. There are requirements which are made public.
And this is why action combat games fail. Faced with the reality that action combat relies on exploiting hardware and not skill, the problem is dealt with the typical solution of “let them eat cake.”
I explained why it is P2W, and you didn’t bother to address that. Why? Because it is. Now back to the BBC.
Pardon any spelling errors
Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
It's concerning and strange asking us to pay for a game still under NDA -which is launching in just two months, that no one played past level 30 and we know nothing about the endgame. That also ask for a subscription and extra money to access the whole game???
Exactly what do I get for my money??
No, not paying for this one.- I'm happy to wait and see how it works out.
One question please (if is possible to reveal this information ) - when going from one zone to another there are loading screens ? I know that lot of people don't care about them but I find them very annoying. Too bad they choose to go with phasing - yes,they made wotlk storytelling better than previous expansions but also made questing annoying if your friend was not in same phase as you.
Yep, there are loading screens. Not many, as zones are really quite massive, and most buildings don't have them. But instances do, and moving from one zone to a next does.
Wrong and wrong.. Dont know if im allowed to type this. But yes when changing islands and entering instances there are loading, also when using a shrine. However when you walk from one zone to another there arent!!!!
It's concerning and strange asking us to pay for a game still under NDA -which is launching in just two months, that no one played past level 30 and we know nothing about the endgame. That also ask for a subscription and extra money to access the whole game???
Exactly what do I get for my money??
No, not paying for this one.- I'm happy to wait and see how it works out.
WTH didnt you try it out this weekend then? there were free keys everywhere..
Combat : Action combat (FPS), I say if anything should be called pay to win it’s action combat. I have a slow machine 2x cpu, 2Gig ram, and GT440. Among the people I know, people at work, people I play online with, and the people at my local comic book store; I have the fastest rig. Thats nearly 100 people, and we are not the only people in this world with poor rigs. So who ever has the money to pay for a fast rig (P2W), will win at the combat game. Just look at SWG:CU (similar action combat), and Tera(SWG:CU try number 2 at combat). Why do some players like action combat over RPG combat(Tab Targeting)? Because it exploits the hardware of 75% of the gaming population.
Did you........my god....did you just call Action combat as Pay-to-win? There could not be a Facepalm imgae that i could post here that would summarise my reaction reading this.
Holy shit, just get a better machine or don't buy the game. Case closed. There are requirements which are made public.
And this is why action combat games fail. Faced with the reality that action combat relies on exploiting hardware and not skill, the problem is dealt with the typical solution of “let them eat cake.”
I explained why it is P2W, and you didn’t bother to address that. Why? Because it is. Now back to the BBC.
Wow ur gonna be surprised my friend.. there are so few people left on this site who dont like the game, Ofc all we hear is bad from those who dont like, and rarely anyone who like typing about it. Thats cause of the NDA.. this game will not be broken by the few scallywags left here..
Most of the posters typing bad about the game, has 60% rage posts about games and 40% rage posts against people liking games.
There will be more beta i bet. and many free keys.
So far, nothing i've seen in this game justifies the price tag along with the subscription. Didn't try the RVR yet but the PVE is ultra generic.
I mean, it's like asking to pay for RIFT when it's already F2P. This game is just like RIFT, just less fun and with voiceover, along with crappier combat. Great innovative game from Bethesda...
My advice : wait a couple months, u'll get the game for 50-75% off and it'll already be F2P.
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i don't agree with the slow leveling as a "bad". as the author said it is faster than the original EQ but slow compared to other recent releases, new MMOs though seem to be so fast to level in that people are easily getting to max level within the first couple days and then the game drastically loses players due to lack of "end game" available. however when you look at WoWs launch it took months for players to get to the max level of 60 and it was released with 2 raids (1 of them had only 1 boss).
so as long as the leveling experience is well done then "slow" could be a good thing as it will give them time to start developing a more fleshed out end game.
Originally posted by Teala I liked your little preview, and you made some valid good and bad points, but....sheesh...you dodged a lot of things about the game that you could have covered since you can talk about levels 1-15. Since I am not an official game reporter I cannot make a list of my own good and bad(due to NDA), because really...there are some key things I think you neglected to bring up. But hey, Zenimax clearly only wants it to continue their little game of obfuscate the reality of the game. Did they have to pre-approve what you wrote?
Nope. But let's say you looked at my video... what stuck out to you? I will say we can't cover AVA until next week, but the cap for this week is level 15.
The limited hotbar.
How does it actually play out? Did you find it limiting, or was it workable?
It reminds me a lot of GW1, you only get a set number of bar space but you get a myriad of skills and the skills you do get you can "morph" into doing something different, as well. There is A LOT of customization for your class/skills (you also can acquire skills based on the weapon you're using) and personally I like the idea of having to make a "build" with a limited number of bar space, but that's just me.
I really hope this isn't breaking the NDA but I used to think the game was going to be terrible based off of what I read as well, and after actually playing it I completely changed my mind. I really wish they would lift the NDA because I think it is definitely giving people a wrong impression about the game because nothing can be said to assure people that it's a good game besides "Yeah I like it".
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I recall seeing some pictures with armor actually on top of the model and not just a skin, has that been removed from the game to improve performance or whatever? :O That would be really bad, the looks of my char means quite a bit to me and if my plate armor is just a skin on the char model it's going to be tough to swallow. I hope they didnt go some stupid ass "well wow has only skins and is popular" reasoning with.
Anyway, keeping my preorder since there's nothing else to play and I havent played a fantasy mmorpg or even a singleplayer game in a good while, so I'll check this one out. Probably the standard modern mmorpg outcome, play through the story, get to max level, game "finished" and move on.
I'm confused, how did you get on the line of reasoning that they made the armors into 'skins'.
Also, how would this be worse / better?
How would you even be able to tell?
>.>
Because I actually watched Bill's video and the armor on his char indeed is just a "skin paint" so it's quite dissapointing. Though I've already seen some footage where the "end game gear" if you can call it that, looks just great and not just a skin paint.
How am I able to tell? Well you know, when you put a jacket on, you get that extra layer of thickness on top of you, and all those details, etc. Then again, if you paint your skin, it's just a painted skin. Surely you must be able to tell the difference? :O
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
No, but demanding value for no money, as many do, is entitlement. It's rampant on these boards.
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Finally someone who put in more than 30 minutes and hit the internet slating the game. (aka PC Gamer's "preview" of level 1-5)
Mr. Murphy, you my friend have restored my faith in MMORPG.com. I completely agree with your entire review. I am an old school gamer, from the days of EQOA and Everquest and Dice rolling Dungeons and Dragons. I used to roll dice when I was younger, I am now a middle aged person who remembers what role playing and storytelling was like. For me, storytelling is one of the most important parts of a game, same goes for visual immersion into the game world.
This game is what It means to be an old school gamer. From the days of rolling dice and thinking of a game and wait for your GM to tell you more of the storyline and allow your imagination to take you places and show you a storyline with many challenging choices in that storyline. To the visuals of games which allowed you to really want to feel like you were a part of a fantasy world and be able to lose in a storyline, to take things one step at a time and enjoy the beauty of a world around you.
I think what I am getting at is what we wanted in our youth so much was a game like this, a game that could facilitate our story wants and pairing it up with our visual and hearing to give us a feeling we are actually in that world we so loved to Role Play in our minds.
What the younger generation and some people without patience do not understand these days due to so many games that have fast paced action and cartoons that always offer action every second of the day, is to enjoy the flowers, to just let go and enjoy the beauty of life, to taste a game like fine wine.
This game is meant to be for people who take their time and enjoy RP, to search every crate, to search every barrel, to talk to every NPC, to take our time and smell the flowers of immersion and storytelling. To check out a door that's out of place, to go look in spots in the game world that are remote and secret, to go and look for hidden coves and treasure. To stand in front of a book case and actually read a story that takes 10 minutes long and to really imagine that story and enjoy it.
In conclusion it does not surprise me that anyone without patience and majority of younger gamers would not like this, they are blindsided by advertising of action and adventure that robs them of immersion and storytelling. I am really glad they made this game, the closest that has ever came to it to date was LOTRO Mines of Moria storytelling, which is an expansion that hit Number 1 by the way. There is many of us OLD RPG players who have enough money to make a game successful still, and let the youth have their action games and cartoon type games, its ok, as for me I got what I want this year and if your an old school RPG fan, you did also. Thank you for your review Mr. Murphy, I enjoyed it.
So all games should be free...why would game company make a game without trying to make profit? Plenty of f2p options out there, enjoy.
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Armour : I had the same feeling about armour in SWTOR. Armour felt like body paint, and not clothing that was rigged to a character. But the armour at the end of this video didn’t seem flat or painted on, so I wish your video had a true and clear example.
Phasing : Again back to SWTOR, especially in the starting zone, you were often on the same quest chain as your group members. In default mode you couldn’t enter the same story instance as a group members. But you could go into the options and change this so you could enter someone else's instance and do the quest chain one at a time. This is probably meant to create mixed class groups, who are not on the same quest chain. I say this is poor planning.
Slow : I expect you played the game as intended at an efficiency of 60%. I predict that a group playing at an efficiency of 90% will reach level cap in a month or less. BTW I was probably being generous with the 60%, more likely you were at 45%. At the end of the video you ran by bears, and through wolves? Maybe this was lower level content that you had passed, so they didn’t react to you. As I see it, the bears and wolves are the unmarked kill 10 of X side quest, you are suppose to be smart enough to do on your own in any sandbox environment. When players don’t do them, their efficiency drops. Just because a sandbox doesn’t give you the typical theme park quest doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
Combat : Action combat (FPS), I say if anything should be called pay to win it’s action combat. I have a slow machine 2x cpu, 2Gig ram, and GT440. Among the people I know, people at work, people I play online with, and the people at my local comic book store; I have the fastest rig. Thats nearly 100 people, and we are not the only people in this world with poor rigs. So who ever has the money to pay for a fast rig (P2W), will win at the combat game. Just look at SWG:CU (similar action combat), and Tera(SWG:CU try number 2 at combat). Why do some players like action combat over RPG combat(Tab Targeting)? Because it exploits the hardware of 75% of the gaming population.
Very Immersive : I agree the in game limits on Immersive (Killing and Looting) are very necessary. A large segment of the population finds it immersive to play denial of service (D.O.S.) with other players. Especially with those players who don’t want to play D.O.S.
Questing with a Purpose : I suspect, you were only doing 45% of the game content. You ran past all those killable xp generating mobs, because you weren’t given a kill 10 of X quest for them.
The Lore Library : Oh good, it has a game feature that has been around for decades. Even exists in games ridiculed in this article.
Meaningful Crafting : I luv crafting, its my primary reason for playing RPGs. But the vast majority of gamers hate crafters and crafting. When your read post about poor game economy, they often boil down to players (PvE & PvP) against crafters. If Loot = Crafted all the way to level cap and beyond I will be surprised. I predict it will end 5 or 10 levels before end game content level.
Incredible Freedom of Progression : When I read “my Khajit plate-wearing, dual-dagger wielding, daedric summoning Sorcerer that I realized I was hooked.” I hear, welcome to lets play Flavor of the Month Build. Here is how the game will be played. Whats more powerful, pet or no pet? What is more survivable Heavy armour or Light armour? What has the higher DPS one handed, two handed, or dual wield? Spells or no spells? What will you see? All players playing the same armour level or the max their build will allow. All players playing the same weapon or the nearest they can acquire. This is why SWG-PreCU was called FOTM the game.
This is a simple game for simple folk. And just like GW2, the player base will realize it is a dumbed down game
I am not under an NDA.Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
then they need to remove the ability to add comments,since the only people who play the beta will leave comments.in fact why not block press form posting since it is their opinion of the game and not facts.i am sure you would go after press who posted neg about the game.
if you want a nda than ENFORCE it to ALL.
Did you........my god....did you just call Action combat as Pay-to-win? There could not be a Facepalm imgae that i could post here that would summarise my reaction reading this.
Holy shit, just get a better machine or don't buy the game. Case closed. There are requirements which are made public.
And this is why action combat games fail. Faced with the reality that action combat relies on exploiting hardware and not skill, the problem is dealt with the typical solution of “let them eat cake.”
I explained why it is P2W, and you didn’t bother to address that. Why? Because it is. Now back to the BBC.Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
It's concerning and strange asking us to pay for a game still under NDA -which is launching in just two months, that no one played past level 30 and we know nothing about the endgame. That also ask for a subscription and extra money to access the whole game???
Exactly what do I get for my money??
No, not paying for this one.- I'm happy to wait and see how it works out.
Wrong and wrong.. Dont know if im allowed to type this. But yes when changing islands and entering instances there are loading, also when using a shrine. However when you walk from one zone to another there arent!!!!
OP get ur facts straight.
WTH didnt you try it out this weekend then? there were free keys everywhere..
Wow ur gonna be surprised my friend.. there are so few people left on this site who dont like the game, Ofc all we hear is bad from those who dont like, and rarely anyone who like typing about it. Thats cause of the NDA.. this game will not be broken by the few scallywags left here..
Most of the posters typing bad about the game, has 60% rage posts about games and 40% rage posts against people liking games.
There will be more beta i bet. and many free keys.
So far, nothing i've seen in this game justifies the price tag along with the subscription. Didn't try the RVR yet but the PVE is ultra generic.
I mean, it's like asking to pay for RIFT when it's already F2P. This game is just like RIFT, just less fun and with voiceover, along with crappier combat. Great innovative game from Bethesda...
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i don't agree with the slow leveling as a "bad". as the author said it is faster than the original EQ but slow compared to other recent releases, new MMOs though seem to be so fast to level in that people are easily getting to max level within the first couple days and then the game drastically loses players due to lack of "end game" available. however when you look at WoWs launch it took months for players to get to the max level of 60 and it was released with 2 raids (1 of them had only 1 boss).
so as long as the leveling experience is well done then "slow" could be a good thing as it will give them time to start developing a more fleshed out end game.
It reminds me a lot of GW1, you only get a set number of bar space but you get a myriad of skills and the skills you do get you can "morph" into doing something different, as well. There is A LOT of customization for your class/skills (you also can acquire skills based on the weapon you're using) and personally I like the idea of having to make a "build" with a limited number of bar space, but that's just me.
I really hope this isn't breaking the NDA but I used to think the game was going to be terrible based off of what I read as well, and after actually playing it I completely changed my mind. I really wish they would lift the NDA because I think it is definitely giving people a wrong impression about the game because nothing can be said to assure people that it's a good game besides "Yeah I like it".