Bow animations look horrible!

Hrotha · February 2014

Already talked on reddit in a lengthy post: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1xdny0/bow_animations/

How do you guys like the bow animations?

I love archers pretty much in any game after the typical assassin-type. Archery was superior fun and effective in Skyrim as we have all seen it.

But what are these animations in TESO? They look rather underwhelming to say the least. The feeling to it is also rather meager, it doesnt really feel like pulling the string and shooting an arrow has real impact to it. Sure they added a little screen-shake when you stealth crit an opponent but that does not reduce the clunky feel to the bow.

Aside from all other weapons, in my opinion the Bow needs to be addressed as soon as possible and it's animation needs to be fixed.

miagisan · February 2014

Originally posted by 4bsolute
Just because Mods love to ban my posts and claiming I broke NDA while surely my critical nature was it they did not like - here is proof that we can wipe behinds with the NDA:

Already talked on reddit in a lengthy post: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1xdny0/bow_animations/

How do you guys like the bow animations?

I love archers pretty much in any game after the typical assassin-type. Archery was superior fun and effective in Skyrim as we have all seen it.

But what are these animations in TESO? They look rather underwhelming to say the least. The feeling to it is also rather meager, it doesnt really feel like pulling the string and shooting an arrow has real impact to it. Sure they added a little screen-shake when you stealth crit an opponent but that does not reduce the clunky feel to the bow.

Aside from all other weapons, in my opinion the Bow needs to be addressed as soon as possible and it's animation needs to be fixed.

Animations dont bother me. After a couple of days of gameplay i barely notice animations any more. Gameplay is much more important, since that is more of a long term factor for me.

Arthasm · February 2014

For me... Of all MMOs, it was worst ranger I ever played. Switch to melee, less headache and more fun.

bcbully · February 2014

Animations are fine. Horrible that they can' t shoot beyond 27 meters.

nutha · February 2014

I didn't like the animation or the sound at first but after playing through a couple betas I don't even notice it anymore.

Latronus · February 2014

Originally posted by 4bsolute
Just because Mods love to ban my posts and claiming I broke NDA while surely my critical nature was it they did not like - here is proof that we can wipe behinds with the NDA:

Already talked on reddit in a lengthy post: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1xdny0/bow_animations/

How do you guys like the bow animations?

I love archers pretty much in any game after the typical assassin-type. Archery was superior fun and effective in Skyrim as we have all seen it.

But what are these animations in TESO? They look rather underwhelming to say the least. The feeling to it is also rather meager, it doesnt really feel like pulling the string and shooting an arrow has real impact to it. Sure they added a little screen-shake when you stealth crit an opponent but that does not reduce the clunky feel to the bow.

Aside from all other weapons, in my opinion the Bow needs to be addressed as soon as possible and it's animation needs to be fixed.

So, what exactly would prefer they look like? I mean they could make us do a little jig while we pull the string back.

The only issue I had with a bow is that the draw takes too long. That is a simple adjustment to make, but I got used to it.

Shadanwolf · February 2014

I would agree with the OP....completely.

askdaboss · February 2014

You're not alone, apparently... An old video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG3H0OeiQqY

Haven't tried bow much (I play melee), so cannot say if this is still the case or not...

arieste · February 2014

Originally posted by Latronus

The only issue I had with a bow is that the draw takes too long.

I played archer as well and it was my feeling also. It took almost as long to draw as invisibility lasts, so i could never tell if i got the shot off in time. (you can't see how much you've hit for, so it's pretty much guesswork if you got off a sneak attack or not).

Shadanwolf · February 2014

99.9 % of the time my main character is an archer. .TODAY given how gimp archers are TODAY. I would play a sorc.

Hopefully that will improve before launch..It seems to me that whoever the dev was that created a bow user...never played the class in other games. Anemic...underpowered.....gimp....lacking a range advantage come to mind as descriptors.

I do think the AVA portion of the game will be a key factor in its survival.

Southkrypt · February 2014

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Animations are definitely a weak point of this game in general. We are in the age of motion capture. Hell, animations in "cartoony" WoW (I only talk about animations here), 10 years old, look better. And since comparing with GW2 seems to be popular, just have a look at that game to see how to do proper (bow and other) combat animations.

I would have to agree with the above on this. The game's animations are badly done. I have been in the last three beta's, and had to force myself to play them, just never could get past the horrible animations and multiple other issues.

Volgore · February 2014

Try to pull and hold the arrow, go into sneak mode and then walk.

The animation is so horrible that you want to shoot yourself with that arrow.

jdlamson75 · February 2014

"Oh, Heavens, the animations are so bad! I cannot bring myself to play this game!"

*Logs in to Minecraft server

Gotta love the big lugs here on mmorpg. Never satisfied with any game; hate 'em all til ya die, right? RIGHT?!?

tawess · February 2014

It is a ES game...

ALL animations are.. well... crap. I have yet to see any ES game that has animations that does not look to be from 1997. Heck they make TSW at launch look like a Pixar movie.

Not sure if the Bow animations look all that much worse the the rest...

Doogiehowser · February 2014

Originally posted by Arthasm
For me... Of all MMOs, it was worst ranger I ever played. Switch to melee, less headache and more fun.

I agree. I dont like any of the animations really... but melee is a bit tolerable. Zenimax this is 2014 for FFS. Not acceptable.

Doogiehowser · February 2014

Originally posted by jdlamson75
"Oh, Heavens, the animations are so bad! I cannot bring myself to play this game!"

*Logs in to Minecraft server

Gotta love the big lugs here on mmorpg. Never satisfied with any game; hate 'em all til ya die, right? RIGHT?!?

What nonsense. Minecraft has its own (16 bit) graphic style why even compare the two? who in their right mind would go in minecraft expecting amazing animations?

You know what is worse than the haters? people who gobble up anything thrown their way in MMOS these days and are intolerant to criticism.

Hrotha · February 2014

Originally posted by askdaboss
You're not alone, apparently... An old video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG3H0OeiQqY

Haven't tried bow much (I play melee), so cannot say if this is still the case or not...

Uahhh yes I know that one...

Spawnblade · February 2014

Just one beta ago melee was extremely underwhelming. People gave feedback regarding it and voila! We have the melee we have now (which is pretty great and better than I ever thought they'd get it in an MMO. Actually feels solid.)

With some feedback and time, I've no doubt Zenimax could do the same (maybe they already plan to?) with archery.

arieste · February 2014

Now that NDA Is lifted, can anyone tell me for sure if you're able to sneak attack with bow using the Nightblade invisibility (2.5 seconds)?

Every time i tried, it seems i let the shot off just as it expired and without being able to tell how much it hits or whether it's a crit, i couldn't tell if it actually worked or it ended up being a regular attack.

Anyone have more experience?

Arskaaa · February 2014

They really need fix animations asap. its really horrible! i love to play archer/assasin in ES games and mmorpgs.

its just dont feel right, its like retard try use bow for spell casting.

Arskaaa · February 2014

Originally posted by arieste
Now that NDA Is lifted, can anyone tell me for sure if you're able to sneak attack with bow using the Nightblade invisibility (2.5 seconds)?

Every time i tried, it seems i let the shot off just as it expired and without being able to tell how much it hits or whether it's a crit, i couldn't tell if it actually worked or it ended up being a regular attack.

Anyone have more experience?

been wonder same. tryed with melee and not sure if added extra damage. some damage numbers would be nice...

spizz · February 2014

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by bcbully
Animations are fine. Horrible that they can' t shoot beyond 27 meters.

This, or aim at any part of the body.

Heck you can aim a foot away from the target- you will still hit them square in the chest. Softlocking just feels way wrong in this game, archery is the worst offender.

I think auto-aim fits into mass pvp. Try to aim at a fast moving crowd of 50-100 players who are fighting each other, if the bow would have manual aim it would be quiete weak. People who did play the beta can say how physical dmg will be in higher levels, at lower levels magic damage or class skills were a lot higher than weapon dmg.

By the way the game offers aswell dodging, you can dodge ahead, left and right and backwards if you have the stamina for it.

DAS1337 · February 2014

Originally posted by 4bsolute
Just because Mods love to ban my posts and claiming I broke NDA while surely my critical nature was it they did not like - here is proof that we can wipe behinds with the NDA:

Already talked on reddit in a lengthy post: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1xdny0/bow_animations/

How do you guys like the bow animations?

I love archers pretty much in any game after the typical assassin-type. Archery was superior fun and effective in Skyrim as we have all seen it.

But what are these animations in TESO? They look rather underwhelming to say the least. The feeling to it is also rather meager, it doesnt really feel like pulling the string and shooting an arrow has real impact to it. Sure they added a little screen-shake when you stealth crit an opponent but that does not reduce the clunky feel to the bow.

Aside from all other weapons, in my opinion the Bow needs to be addressed as soon as possible and it's animation needs to be fixed.

I actually modded my bow animations in Skyrim. Well, I didn't mod them myself, but I installed a mod to change them, as they were quite horrible.

A lot of animations in ESO are bad. It seems like combat animations are pretty solid, but movement animations are a complete different story. The characters feel weightless.

spizz · February 2014

Originally posted by arieste
Now that NDA Is lifted, can anyone tell me for sure if you're able to sneak attack with bow using the Nightblade invisibility (2.5 seconds)?

Every time i tried, it seems i let the shot off just as it expired and without being able to tell how much it hits or whether it's a crit, i couldn't tell if it actually worked or it ended up being a regular attack.

Anyone have more experience?

A sneak attack is without invisibility, you are of course invisible to the enemy if you sneak in a certain range but the skill invisibility makes you invisible in any range. You just sneak and if you dont get detected in a certain range your sneak attack will be successfull with your weapon dmg, not class skill or weapon skill as far i remember.

I cant remember how an invisible attack with a bow did compare to a sneak attack. I will test this in the next beta.

arieste · February 2014

Originally posted by spizz
A sneak attack is without invisibility, you are of course invisible to the enemy if you sneak in a certain range but the skill invisiblity makes you invisible in any range. You just sneak and if you dont get detected in a certain range your sneak attack will be successfull.

I cant remember how a invisible attack with a bow did compare to a sneak attack.

My undersanding that a sneak attack should be the same whether using regular sneak or invisibily. I'm just looking for confirmation if 2.5 seconds is long enough to actually get the bow attack off, since it takes a long time.

spizz · February 2014

Originally posted by arieste
Originally posted by spizz
A sneak attack is without invisibility, you are of course invisible to the enemy if you sneak in a certain range but the skill invisiblity makes you invisible in any range. You just sneak and if you dont get detected in a certain range your sneak attack will be successfull.

I cant remember how a invisible attack with a bow did compare to a sneak attack.

My undersanding that a sneak attack should be the same whether using regular sneak or invisibily. I'm just looking for confirmation if 2.5 seconds is long enough to actually get the bow attack off, since it takes a long time.

I dont know if it is the same, at least i cant remember since I played a Nightblade class not in the last beta but in the beta before. When I did a sneak attack i just used sneak.

There are two different types of bow attacks, pressing the mouse button only for a short moment or holding it for longer. The last option does of course more damage.

Yeah, its a good question if the time of a more powerful bow attack is short enough to fit into the time zone of invisibility. I cant say it. Just from the feel i think yes.

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