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Add-on Free Cyrodiil
Xreeon
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I do NOT want to have to download third party add-ons and looking at the PvP beta videos it's clear they offer a significant, and unfair advantage.
How about few Add-On disabled Cyrodiil to fight in - can this be done?
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I'm sure they will add a ingame version of the most used addons much like WoW does over time.
I saw some videos that gave rolling combat text. What were some others?
Just keep looking and you will find add-ons that you will have to have - you can see critical data re: opponents that puts them at a real disadvantage.
Maybe a few add-on free Cyrodiils would provide an option for those of us that don't want third party add-ons.
I don't have a bias either way.
I can't see add-on's giving any real time combat advantage. All the real time combat info that you need to process is available via game graphics.
The combat add-ons I saw were more distracting than anything.
All I can see them as being good for is enhancement to gameplay such as map/crafting/gear etc.
Also, Zeni could block any add-on it choose.
If there is one thing i have learned is that add ons that go any deeper then changing the looks of things, those addons will allways unballance the game..
Thats why i think the developers should not support those addons (lua) at all. and give everyone the same addaptable interface..
In less then a week after release we will see mini maps, CC alarms, GPS route finders, ennemy detectors, autohealing tools, and a multitude of other unwanted unballancing stuff.
On top of that, i just hate updating those addons after every patch
I think totally removing them from the game is the best option, forcing people to play with the tools they have... numbers dont add anything to the game, its not a numbers game, they ruin immesion. And most important... DAoC did not have addons, and thats one of the reasons PvP rocked big time.. people where not looking at the interface but at the actuall combat action on screen.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Power Gamers and hardcore PvPers/PvEers wouldn't use them if they didn't offer an advantage. They'll try to sell you on the idea that these add-ons do nothing... but... if they didn't do anything... then they wouldn't want them so bad.
After you point that out, they'll go to the default argument "You don't have to use them if you don't want to." Which is blatantly false. If you want to participate in PvP... you have to have these add-ons, or you will be at an automatic disadvantage. So the idea of choice in this matter is actually a ruse.
Their last line of defense is to just call you stupid.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. A game needs to have a hard UI ruleset that does not allow modifications. Either put the information in the stock UI or don't. It hardly matters either way. What you can't have is a system where everyone is using something different. It creates an automatic issue with game balance. There is simply no way to refute this no matter how hard anyone tries.
critical data? what your opponents hp, stamina and magika... ohh no the fight is over if someone knows how much magika i have left, there is no addons that give a clear massive advantage in PvP
I think i will copy your arguments for later use.... I fully agree to them
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
"I want to use add-ons, therefore everyone should be forced to accept it a a viable option."
I've already pointed out how it's not an option.
I enjoyed being able to alter my game experience in Skyrim and would like the same here. Adding a basement to my house with art, weapon racks etc, higher definition graphics with richer colors, cosmetic changes (face, hair, gear looks) etc.
And in WoW I learned to appreciate the various mods like Deadly Boss Mods.
I draw the line and being able to change player or gear stats, give yourself $ or gear etc.
^ This
1. Having played the last couple of betas, I don't think the standard set up gives me enough feedback on what's happening to my character. Any add-on that adds this information will be used asap.
2. Another add-on that will get installed instantly is one the overrides the Q potion wheel with a standard slot bar on the screen.
3. Mini-map add-on - if one appears - loaded straight in.
4. Maybe one that gives better cool down information on my characters skills, although this could be covered in 1.
5. One that changes the inventory to a standard matrix format - would be added
6. Add-on - In the chat section - Feedback on player acceptance/decline of group invitation, and notification of what I had actually looted.
And that would be about it.
To me, all the above should be in the game anyway and the add-ons would just be making up for game deficiencies in these areas.
You don't consider enemy cast-bar with spell description an advantage?
Why do you consider those to be something you're entitled to know when the developers have clearly left them out?
Then dont? i honestly do not understand the crying that's been going on about addons?
it's free of use, u dont want to? then dont.
no one is forcing u to download anything it's just that people tend to cry over it because it could give someone a tiny bit better view over things. guess what? using addon's will not improve crappy playskills and the other way around, not using addons will not damage your skill if you're very skillfull person.
I got better solution for all addon-haters: plz don't buy TESO, and don't post about it on any forum. THX.
I'm sure all other ppl who liked addons will appreciat that.
[Quote]1. This is a themepark mmorpg. All themepark mmorpgs provide this basic information. It's entitled to, these are fundamentals...show me one other themepark mmorpg that does not provide this information?[/quote]
-> We don't need to fly/ store food/ drive! ALL humans walk/ hunt/ walkt! That's an fundamental! Show me a human that does fly/ store food/ drive! (Extinct human from different times)
If noone has the info everyone is even. As said before: It hits you -> It's alive, your HP high - Fight, your HP low -> Flight. Are we humans that lazy to adapt and feel so entitled to have everything catered to us? *sigh* Also to the subject of beeing forced look at my doping comment...
I don’t normally post on here but this post I felt warranted it.
The sheer laziness of the OP and his bizarre idea that others should be penalized due to his laziness is absurd! If you want the equal benefits of the game and its mechanics get off your arse and download the Add ons that are available to all. Next you will be complaining that you don’t have a max level char with Legendary gear as "you haven’t played as much as other people"
This is likely the addon in question...
http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/02/foundry-tactical-combat/
It's a very good addon, with 2 problems:
a) The UI shipped with the game is completely inadequate. It's one thing to have a UI that looks bad, but an MMO UI that doesn't show buffs/debuffs etc?
b) The addon does things that should not be possible.
"The addon also does it’s best to prompt the user to take the appropriate response to a variety of abilities, whether that involves blocking, dodging, or interrupting their progress." - that is seriously messed up.
Actually the OPS argument is more inline with benifit seekers who sit on their arse drinking beer and smoking cigs while complaining that those who go to work have more than them.
Your comment suggests that a game mechanic open to all is actually an cheat or exploit. This is nonsense. Its like complaining that your playing tennis bear foot and everyone else should be force to as you couldnt be ars'd to put your trainers on.