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Disabling all Racial Bonuses in Cyrodil

HrothaHrotha Member UncommonPosts: 821
in Elder Scrolls Online
Disabling all Racial Bonuses in Cyrodil: No more balancing issues. Very convenient and very effective solution.

Should it be done?

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  • ArielyAriely Member Posts: 68
    imo picking a race based on those racial bonuses and not the race that u liked just for the tiny bit of extra power that could give u, then you're playing games for the wrong reason
  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610

    I voted no. I don't really want 'balance' in large scale warfare. If the game was more akin to an esport or instanced battlegrounds then maybe.

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  • ElirionLothElirionLoth Member UncommonPosts: 308
    Why do many PvPers want every class/job/race to be carbon copies of each other so they can be "balanced"?  If that is what you are looking for, there are many games out there already like that.  Some games should be based on team work and filling a slot in a team not on your 1v1 fighting ability.  I like PvP but hate it in MMOs because this always comes up.
  • AzothAzoth Member UncommonPosts: 840
    The balancing is being tested in the private beta test. I think you put too much weight on the real value of the racials. Most of the stats are easily soft capped, doing it with racial or buff on armor is irrelevant if it the end you can have exactly the same stats.
  • WaidenWaiden Member UncommonPosts: 500
    Originally posted by Hrotha
    Disabling all Racial Bonuses in Cyrodil: No more balancing issues. Very convenient and very effective solution.

    Should it be done?

    No thx :D lol

  • cueaidcueaid Member UncommonPosts: 16

    I voted no aswell, since if you should remove racial bonuses from cyrodill then whats the point in haveing racial bonuses at all besides for PVE? and then its only gonna end up with people only wanting to grp with certian racial tank spec's or healer's

    no one will be over powered in any way just since they picked a certian race :)

     

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Yeah, that's a terrible idea. Racial differences is something ESO got right.
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Seems the dumbing down based on  player noobidity has started

     

    anyone taht thinks racial abbilities are unballancing hasnt understood anything about how the spec and gear system works

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  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424

    I'm glad that race plays a big role in your character's stats and how they play.  Although one race may be better in one field of the game, another is better in a different field.  So it evens out, except Argonian and Nord, their racials are pretty weak.  What makes it worse is they are on the same faction, so in PvP Ebonheart isn't going to do very well.  Aldmeri is going to do great though :P

  • cueaidcueaid Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Originally posted by Gravarg

    I'm glad that race plays a big role in your character's stats and how they play.  Although one race may be better in one field of the game, another is better in a different field.  So it evens out, except Argonian and Nord, their racials are pretty weak.  What makes it worse is they are on the same faction, so in PvP Ebonheart isn't going to do very well.  Aldmeri is going to do great though :P

    How is the Argonian's racial bonus like Quick to mend or Argonian resistance bad for pvp? :)

  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    Racial perks are negligible end game, so I advise people spend their time with something that actually matters.
  • cueaidcueaid Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Originally posted by StarI
    Racial perks are negligible end game, so I advise people spend their time with something that actually matters.

    Yes i really cant see either how people can see that this is gonna be a big problem in the game, when theres not been any reason or proof to think it will be a problem, 98% of all MMO's out there have Racial perks, and i dont know of one where it have been a big problem or fuss. Since it wont matter anything in the end. since of the stats cap in the game, that will make sure no one gets over powered since they picked a certian race, then som one else did with the same build

  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,572
    OP has made a few topics about how...OP...some racial bonuses are. And just like his other posts, he's wrong here, too, because they won't be at 50 and end game.

    Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?

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  • hawkrylhawkryl Member Posts: 24
    Originally posted by Ginaz
    OP has made a few topics about how...OP...some racial bonuses are. And just like his other posts, he's wrong here, too, because they won't be at 50 and end game.

    Exactly, your able to softcap all the racial abilities.  It only really changes what enchants/traits you are going to need.  Although I guess there might be a small advantage during leveling.

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  • askdabossaskdaboss Member UncommonPosts: 631

    I vote no.

    I will be Argonian and organise swimming competitions against the lesser races. First to cross the finish wins the money.

  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424
    Yeah I said it before, once you get over a certain number in a stat, you start to get diminshed returns.  I've had an orc that had it in armor since level 6 lol.  You still get more armor, but it's less effective.  So for the min/maxers you can't just dump everything into a single stat.
  • TygranirTygranir Member Posts: 741
    No. If your team is losing ground, it isn't because of racial bonuses. Coordinated effort and proper planning of targets is how you win, not min/maxing. Let it go.

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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by askdaboss

    I vote no.

    I will be Argonian and organise swimming competitions against the lesser races. First to cross the finish wins the money.

    Or just spend thos skillpoints somewhere else...

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  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,504
    first add-ons, now racial bonuses... i cant help but LOL at how fickle the ESObois are
  • TelondarielTelondariel Member Posts: 1,001
    Originally posted by Hrotha
    Disabling all Racial Bonuses in Cyrodil: No more balancing issues. Very convenient and very effective solution.

    Should it be done?

    I can't believe you are still on about this.

     

    Soft caps.  Gear stats.  Player skill and tactics.  It balances out. 

     

    But, since this is your 3rd thread discussing the same topic, I am willing to bet that you aren't really here to listen to reason rather than rant and rage.

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  • cueaidcueaid Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Originally posted by Telondariel
    Originally posted by Hrotha
    Disabling all Racial Bonuses in Cyrodil: No more balancing issues. Very convenient and very effective solution.

    Should it be done?

    I can't believe you are still on about this.

     

    Soft caps.  Gear stats.  It balances out. 

    Nice Animist Shroom avatar :D 

    DAOC  for the win! :)

  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785

    Sigh. PvPers - the eternal reason we can't have nice things.

    RPG's are about building a character, not about homogeneity. Not everyone should be the same, if you want completely equal footing, just go play counter strike. It's about synergy and working with others, not "how come my preferred class/race can't always be best?"

    That mentality needs to stop, it does nothing but diminish the quality of games.

  • TelondarielTelondariel Member Posts: 1,001
    Originally posted by jesperp
    Originally posted by Telondariel
    Originally posted by Hrotha
    Disabling all Racial Bonuses in Cyrodil: No more balancing issues. Very convenient and very effective solution.

    Should it be done?

    I can't believe you are still on about this.

     

    Soft caps.  Gear stats.  It balances out. 

    Nice Animist Shroom avatar :D 

    DAOC  for the win! :)

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  • alexhpy98721alexhpy98721 Member UncommonPosts: 264
    Let`s not exagerate... PvP is more fun when its not perfectly balanced...
  • DraedzDraedz Member Posts: 47
    Give it a rest.  This thread is ridiculous.
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