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Worth buying? Yes, or no?

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  • ComafComaf Member UncommonPosts: 1,150
    Originally posted by Stimos8

    Hi, as the title suggests, I am trying to work out whether or not this game will be worth it for me. I am greatly looking forward to the release of Wildstar in less then 2 months, I have been waiting on that game for years, and beta just reaffirmed the total awesomeness of it. Anyway, I did also try the Eso beta, and i was greatly looking forward to the game, before trying beta, but after i played eso for about a day, I actually couldn't stand to log on/ play it anymore, it just felt static, not interactive and rather bad.

    I have played every Mmorpg out, wow, for almost 10 years now, and every big Mmorpg since then. Elder scrolls is the only one, that I havent bought into straight at launch, simply because, I dont know if I will get that much out of it. However, as it is atm, I am finding that there is nothing to do, so the question is, should I play it? Is it worth the price of 100 dollars? will it last me for longer then 2 months? How long does it take to reach max level? what can you do for endgame, at max level? And what are some totally awesome features (if any) that the game has? Because since there is nothing else out atm, that I am playing, I need something to tide me over until the totally awesome, Wildstar is released.

    :) Thanks for your help and lets discuss this game!

    Please make sure to respond starting with a "Yes" or a "No", purely based on your opinion and why, not taking into consideration anyone else/ my state on the game.

    Unless you have money to burn, just wait for Wildstar!  Grab a few good books, play up some RPGs...etc :)  For me, I'll play ESO.  I'm an old Dark Age of Camelot fan, and enjoy the more political depth of pvp that ESO offers. 

     

    Good luck!

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  • Ender4Ender4 Member UncommonPosts: 2,247

    Oh god no, this game is terrible if you have spent any time playing MMORPG in the past 5+ years. Complete trash unless this is your first MMORPG or something. If your choices are Wildstar or ESO though definitely pick ESO, Wildstar is one of the worst MMORPG ever released.

  • RebelScum99RebelScum99 Member Posts: 1,090
    Originally posted by Ender4

    Oh god no, this game is terrible if you have spent any time playing MMORPG in the past 5+ years. Complete trash unless this is your first MMORPG or something. If your choices are Wildstar or ESO though definitely pick ESO, Wildstar is one of the worst MMORPG ever released.

    Yeah, who can argue with objective reasoning such as this?  I've been playing MMOs since the days of UO, and I think both of these games are very well made and very enjoyable.  So I guess your "unless this is your first MMORPG" comment doesn't exactly carry much weight. 

     

  • andypandyrandypandyr Member UncommonPosts: 89

    "I have played every Mmorpg out, wow, for almost 10 years now, and every big Mmorpg since then "

    Sounds to me like your quite capable of making your own mind up ....

  • muffins89muffins89 Member UncommonPosts: 1,585

    worth buying? yes
    worth subbing? up in the air.

  • MerklynnMerklynn Member UncommonPosts: 100
    No. If ESO made you feel that way just wait for Wildstar. Play whatever Betas are left and June will be here soon enough. I'm guessing you already preordered so that will shave some time off as well.
  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    Originally posted by RebelScum99
    Originally posted by Ender4

    Oh god no, this game is terrible if you have spent any time playing MMORPG in the past 5+ years. Complete trash unless this is your first MMORPG or something. If your choices are Wildstar or ESO though definitely pick ESO, Wildstar is one of the worst MMORPG ever released.

    Yeah, who can argue with objective reasoning such as this?  I've been playing MMOs since the days of UO, and I think both of these games are very well made and very enjoyable.  So I guess your "unless this is your first MMORPG" comment doesn't exactly carry much weight. 

     

    Rofl, he has me convinced.  I give up.


  • WhitebeardsWhitebeards Member Posts: 778

    Nope. Not worth it in its current state. I would suggest wait for 6 months to 1 year atleast.

     

  • askdabossaskdaboss Member UncommonPosts: 631
    Originally posted by Stimos8

    I have played every Mmorpg out, wow, for almost 10 years now, and every big Mmorpg since then.

    Seems about right, 10 years is the amount of time it should take to play every MMORPG released - playing back to back and without sleep.

    Aside from this, I would wait for a discounted price if you don't mind playing with less people around you. There are still a lot of bugs are being ironed out, and the "best time" to buy might not be now but the game is "fun" and "worth it", probably as the secret world would be.

  • Stimos8Stimos8 Member UncommonPosts: 163

    I see what people are saying, and appreciate the comments, although, what I want is peoples honest opinion of why they are playing the game and what they like / don't like a bout it (features, etc...) I do not want/ need all this flame or hate that people are giving. Like how can people say the game is completely horrible if they haven't played the whole thing? People have no right to, unless they have literally tried out all of the content, same goes for Wildstar, I did not even ASK for peoples comments on Wildstar, yet for some reason, individuals feel the need to completely trash it, even though its not even released, and henceforth no one has finished all the content, there's a difference between looking forward t certain features/ content and unfairly judging a game, on experiences you haven't even had, Just keep it civil, no need to get all heated up, haha. :)

    Also, another question, anyone know any games that elder scrolls compares to? Like is similar/ different to, Someone said it was similar to the secret world? That was a great mmo, apart from the relatively short story line and content, it was a very well made game and was quite enjoyable. Does ESO compare to this? how is it different or similar? Is it similar or different to other games like, wow, rift, gw2, swtor, aoc, aion, war, etc...

    Thanks, and keep the messages, civil, precise and informative :)

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    This is a loaded questions. Mainly because whether we enjoy an mmorpg is a balance between the fun stuff and the annoying stuff. So here goes my list:

    You should buy ESO because:

    • It has captured the atmosphere of the world of ES and thus is very immersive
    • Great voice overs on top of the atmosphere (with very few exceptions/omissions)
    • Interesting story and captivating quests
    • One server means all your friends will be (in theory) playing with you
    • PvP zone is very interesting
    You should not buy ESO because:
    • Tons of minor bugs (quests and dungeons not working or breaking, glitches and general lack of polish)
    • Laggy if you're EU based. Maintenance also was happening during EU leisure hours (though that may have changed).
    • Dust feather non impact combat (a lot of western mmorpgs suffer from that)
    • Ability gameplay feels too restrictive
    • Lack of basic mmorpg functionality, like outfits (so you can swap abilities/equipment/roles easily. No mentoring system of any sort, making zones obsolete and playing with friends a lesser experience.
    • Game is heavily zoned, instanced and phased with all the pros and cons this design implies.
    • Extremely slow support (personal experience, unresolved matter after 15 days)
    Overall, I'd say that if you play it as a single player experience with the possibility of bumping into other people, you will have more fun. If however you are looking for a social mmorpg experience, then you probably won't have as much fun.
     
    As for my personal opinion ... The game was released prematurely in a relative slow period in the mmorpg space, which, along with the legacy of it's name, contributed to increased sales numbers. I have not regretted buying and playing the game, but due to their infuriating slow support, the first month will also be the last month.
  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,642

    I have been a huge supporter of ESO right up to the last two or three days.

     

    The game has some serious flaws that compound in severity due to Zeni's lack of mmo experience, as well as their " vision " of what the game should be.

     

    In a way I begin to experience a SWTOR deja vu. 

     

    During SWTOR closed beta tons of the testers explained the mistakes they were making and the flaws with the game,  we were answered with a direct slap in the face. Being told on the CB forums by the project leader that we were all idiots, that we have no idea how to make a game or what we want in a game. That the devs have a vision and that we do not matter in that vision.

     

    Sadly I am beginning to see that zenimax has a vision for ESO and possibly we the player do not matter in their vision.

     

    The game really is sitting on a razors edge, there are so many things that are wrong with the core concepts that to fix them would take some very large, time consuming, and expensive game restructures.

     

    Now that is not saying they will not happen, but it is saying they will not happen in a timely manner.

     

    A week in now and there are tons of level 50's walking around bored off their gourds.

     

    Destiny and ArcheAge (NA) will be going into beta very soon. Wildstar releases very soon. 

     

    ESO does not have a lot of time to fix the problems if they want to hold on to the current market share.

    To sustain the subscription model it is imperative to hold a large part of their current player base.

    Sadly and much to my despair it is not going to happen. 

    Hell I am in a 500 man guild and more than half are level 50 now, and out of 500 we had between 30-60 people on at any time today/tonight.

    For the last 5 days its has been between 350-450 at any give time.

    Those numbers give me a lot of pause being able to tell you to throw money at this game.

     

  • muffins89muffins89 Member UncommonPosts: 1,585


    Originally posted by psiic
    I have been a huge supporter of ESO right up to the last two or three days. The game has some serious flaws that compound in severity due to Zeni's lack of mmo experience, as well as their " vision " of what the game should be. In a way I begin to experience a SWTOR deja vu.  During SWTOR closed beta tons of the testers explained the mistakes they were making and the flaws with the game,  we were answered with a direct slap in the face. Being told on the CB forums by the project leader that we were all idiots, that we have no idea how to make a game or what we want in a game. That the devs have a vision and that we do not matter in that vision. Sadly I am beginning to see that zenimax has a vision for ESO and possibly we the player do not matter in their vision. The game really is sitting on a razors edge, there are so many things that are wrong with the core concepts that to fix them would take some very large, time consuming, and expensive game restructures. Now that is not saying they will not happen, but it is saying they will not happen in a timely manner. A week in now and there are tons of level 50's walking around bored off their gourds. Destiny and ArcheAge (NA) will be going into beta very soon. Wildstar releases very soon.  ESO does not have a lot of time to fix the problems if they want to hold on to the current market share.To sustain the subscription model it is imperative to hold a large part of their current player base.Sadly and much to my despair it is not going to happen. Hell I am in a 500 man guild and more than half are level 50 now, and out of 500 we had between 30-60 people on at any time today/tonight.For the last 5 days its has been between 350-450 at any give time.Those numbers give me a lot of pause being able to tell you to throw money at this game. 

    it's weird you say lack of experience, when 2 mmo's veterans are the project leads.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    Originally posted by muffins89

     



     

    it's weird you say lack of experience, when 2 mmo's veterans are the project leads.

    Which by itself doesn't mean much anyway. If it did, the founders of UO and DAoC would still be creating successful mmorpgs.

  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Originally posted by muffins89

     


    Originally posted by psiic
    I have been a huge supporter of ESO right up to the last two or three days.

     

     

    The game has some serious flaws that compound in severity due to Zeni's lack of mmo experience, as well as their " vision " of what the game should be.

     

    In a way I begin to experience a SWTOR deja vu. 

     

    During SWTOR closed beta tons of the testers explained the mistakes they were making and the flaws with the game,  we were answered with a direct slap in the face. Being told on the CB forums by the project leader that we were all idiots, that we have no idea how to make a game or what we want in a game. That the devs have a vision and that we do not matter in that vision.

     

    Sadly I am beginning to see that zenimax has a vision for ESO and possibly we the player do not matter in their vision.

     

    The game really is sitting on a razors edge, there are so many things that are wrong with the core concepts that to fix them would take some very large, time consuming, and expensive game restructures.

     

    Now that is not saying they will not happen, but it is saying they will not happen in a timely manner.

     

    A week in now and there are tons of level 50's walking around bored off their gourds.

     

    Destiny and ArcheAge (NA) will be going into beta very soon. Wildstar releases very soon. 

     

    ESO does not have a lot of time to fix the problems if they want to hold on to the current market share.

    To sustain the subscription model it is imperative to hold a large part of their current player base.

    Sadly and much to my despair it is not going to happen. 

    Hell I am in a 500 man guild and more than half are level 50 now, and out of 500 we had between 30-60 people on at any time today/tonight.

    For the last 5 days its has been between 350-450 at any give time.

    Those numbers give me a lot of pause being able to tell you to throw money at this game.

     


     

    it's weird you say lack of experience, when 2 mmo's veterans are the project leads.

     

    Not real sure being ED for the decline of DAoC really lends to a claim of mmo management and decision making experience. 

    Just saying

  • muffins89muffins89 Member UncommonPosts: 1,585


    Originally posted by psiic
    Originally posted by muffins89   Originally posted by psiic I have been a huge supporter of ESO right up to the last two or three days.     The game has some serious flaws that compound in severity due to Zeni's lack of mmo experience, as well as their " vision " of what the game should be.   In a way I begin to experience a SWTOR deja vu.    During SWTOR closed beta tons of the testers explained the mistakes they were making and the flaws with the game,  we were answered with a direct slap in the face. Being told on the CB forums by the project leader that we were all idiots, that we have no idea how to make a game or what we want in a game. That the devs have a vision and that we do not matter in that vision.   Sadly I am beginning to see that zenimax has a vision for ESO and possibly we the player do not matter in their vision.   The game really is sitting on a razors edge, there are so many things that are wrong with the core concepts that to fix them would take some very large, time consuming, and expensive game restructures.   Now that is not saying they will not happen, but it is saying they will not happen in a timely manner.   A week in now and there are tons of level 50's walking around bored off their gourds.   Destiny and ArcheAge (NA) will be going into beta very soon. Wildstar releases very soon.    ESO does not have a lot of time to fix the problems if they want to hold on to the current market share. To sustain the subscription model it is imperative to hold a large part of their current player base. Sadly and much to my despair it is not going to happen.  Hell I am in a 500 man guild and more than half are level 50 now, and out of 500 we had between 30-60 people on at any time today/tonight. For the last 5 days its has been between 350-450 at any give time. Those numbers give me a lot of pause being able to tell you to throw money at this game.  
      it's weird you say lack of experience, when 2 mmo's veterans are the project leads.
     

    Not real sure being ED for the decline of DAoC really lends to a claim of mmo management and decision making experience. 

    Just saying


    experience is not measured by success or failure.

    just saying.

  • loulakiloulaki Member UncommonPosts: 944

    If i answer to your post "if its worth or not to buy this game" i will get email for trolling from THIS forum moderators ...

    The above might explains to you some things about this game and the monetization they try to achieve in order to have a good image for their game. This is the biggest issue and concern, cause bugs exists and can be fixed, but such attitudes no.

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  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519
    Originally posted by Xasapis

    This is a loaded questions. Mainly because whether we enjoy an mmorpg is a balance between the fun stuff and the annoying stuff. So here goes my list:

    You should buy ESO because:

    • It has captured the atmosphere of the world of ES and thus is very immersive
    • Great voice overs on top of the atmosphere (with very few exceptions/omissions)
    • Interesting story and captivating quests
    • One server means all your friends will be (in theory) playing with you
    • PvP zone is very interesting
    You should not buy ESO because:
    • Tons of minor bugs (quests and dungeons not working or breaking, glitches and general lack of polish)
    • Laggy if you're EU based. Maintenance also was happening during EU leisure hours (though that may have changed).
    • Dust feather non impact combat (a lot of western mmorpgs suffer from that)
    • Ability gameplay feels too restrictive
    • Lack of basic mmorpg functionality, like outfits (so you can swap abilities/equipment/roles easily. No mentoring system of any sort, making zones obsolete and playing with friends a lesser experience.
    • Game is heavily zoned, instanced and phased with all the pros and cons this design implies.
    • Extremely slow support (personal experience, unresolved matter after 15 days)
    Overall, I'd say that if you play it as a single player experience with the possibility of bumping into other people, you will have more fun. If however you are looking for a social mmorpg experience, then you probably won't have as much fun.
     
    As for my personal opinion ... The game was released prematurely in a relative slow period in the mmorpg space, which, along with the legacy of it's name, contributed to increased sales numbers. I have not regretted buying and playing the game, but due to their infuriating slow support, the first month will also be the last month.

    Newly released game with 200k+ support tickets. Sorry its taking to long to get to you!

  • p4ttythep3rf3ctp4ttythep3rf3ct Member UncommonPosts: 194

    For me it was a solid YES the moment I got bored in beta.  I know that sounds odd, but it was refreshing to be playing something absent of what I can only now describe as the casino-effect past MMOs have felt increasingly like over the years.  In short, it reminded me of games of old, before you started playing 10 years ago.  Lost, alone, and without a clue of what to do next.  I loved it!

     

    Now I'm not so much without a clue and I have figured out the combat like a boss.  Anyone who says it's clunky is, well, doing it wrong.  I know, I did not like it at first either, it was unfamiliar.  But once I figured it out, BOOM, I'm on like Donkey Kong!  :)

    That's just, like, my opinion, man.

  • BurntCabbageBurntCabbage Member UncommonPosts: 482

    is it worth buying..yah if you want it..its pretty simple and why are you asking others what you should buy..dont be a sheep and try it for yourself

    but if you do decide to buy it make sure you buy the explorers pack..you will be able to play all races on any faction...i bought the imperial ed. and it didnt come with it..im still pissed but likeing the game..as of my now the only way to play all races on any faction is 1. you had to pre-order 2. buy the explorers ed. 

    this really pisses me off and i really hope they put this option on the item shop VERY SOON

  • adkenneradkenner Member Posts: 18

    The combat makes this a solid NOT WORTH BUYING. It is as bad or worse than any MMO Ive ever played. You can listen/read about all the other systems, which many of them are done well....but the combat (98% of the game) is honestly horrible. 

    I wanted a refund within my first 3 hours play session, but I couldn't get one. I have tried to play a couple of times since then, and it just confirms how bad the game is. It needs a 100% complete combat overhaul, and I doubt thats going to happen. 

    I would strongly say don't buy. Knowing what I know now, I wouldnt even play it for free. 

  • AshanorAshanor Member UncommonPosts: 109
    Originally posted by Foobarx

    If you have to ask, then the answer is a resounding "NO!!!!!!!!!!!!"

     

    98% of the people playing ESO right now will be playing Wildstar in less than 2 months.

     

    If you can't wait that long, then you have no life.  Time to go and get a life.  

     

     

    I beta tested Wildstar not that long ago, and the game is absolute garbage imo. I wouldn't touch it again if they paid me to. ESO on the other hand, I am enjoying a lot.

  • ChannceChannce Member CommonPosts: 570
    I never understand these type of posts, is it worth it to who? you? I have no idea.  to me, hell ya its worth it.

    When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.

  • CoffeeBreakCoffeeBreak Member Posts: 236
    Originally posted by adkenner

    The combat makes this a solid NOT WORTH BUYING. It is as bad or worse than any MMO Ive ever played. You can listen/read about all the other systems, which many of them are done well....but the combat (98% of the game) is honestly horrible. 

    I wanted a refund within my first 3 hours play session, but I couldn't get one. I have tried to play a couple of times since then, and it just confirms how bad the game is. It needs a 100% complete combat overhaul, and I doubt thats going to happen. 

    I would strongly say don't buy. Knowing what I know now, I wouldnt even play it for free. 

     

    I feel bad for Wow players.  I have no problem with Wow (I'll sadly admit I raided like it was a second job from BC to Cata).  

    I feel for these players and understand where they are coming from.  I'd be disappoint too if I was coming from games like Wow, EQ, Rift, Swtor where my preferred combat style (target mob, do rotation/priority, feel like a boss) was replaced with a movement system more comparable to a first-person shooter and the game required me to block, dodge, and interrupt just so basic quest mobs don't knock away most of my health pool in a few seconds.  

    For me, I've played many first-person shooters and a few mmos with this same style so it's more comfortable to me. I love the fast, aggressive combat rather than wow's run up to mob, 1,2,3,4, go to next mob, 1,2,3,4, go to next mob 1,2,3...HOLY SHIT I GOT A PROC 5!!!

    As for the OP, I'm concerned that if he too prefers the more relaxed, rotation based combat that Wildstar might not be his thing either.  I put about 20 hours in the Wildstar beta and I am thrilled that two games with faster, action combat are coming out two months apart but there isn't much on the horizon for the Wow players.  Well they get WoD but that's a ways off.

     

  • reeereeereeereee Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Originally posted by Stimos8

    Hi, as the title suggests, I am trying to work out whether or not this game will be worth it for me. I am greatly looking forward to the release of Wildstar in less then 2 months, I have been waiting on that game for years, and beta just reaffirmed the total awesomeness of it. Anyway, I did also try the Eso beta, and i was greatly looking forward to the game, before trying beta, but after i played eso for about a day, I actually couldn't stand to log on/ play it anymore, it just felt static, not interactive and rather bad.

    I have played every Mmorpg out, wow, for almost 10 years now, and every big Mmorpg since then. Elder scrolls is the only one, that I havent bought into straight at launch, simply because, I dont know if I will get that much out of it. However, as it is atm, I am finding that there is nothing to do, so the question is, should I play it? Is it worth the price of 100 dollars? will it last me for longer then 2 months? How long does it take to reach max level? what can you do for endgame, at max level? And what are some totally awesome features (if any) that the game has? Because since there is nothing else out atm, that I am playing, I need something to tide me over until the totally awesome, Wildstar is released.

    :) Thanks for your help and lets discuss this game!

    Please make sure to respond starting with a "Yes" or a "No", purely based on your opinion and why, not taking into consideration anyone else/ my state on the game.

    If you just want something to tide you over for 2-3 months then this game is a perfect match.  You can hit 50 fairly fast but since the system works out that you do the other 2 factions zones in a "hard mode" format after you reach max level hitting 50 is really only about 1/3 of the current PvE content.  The PvP is interesting but I'm not sure how well it will hold up over time.

     

    All in all I feel like I got more bang for my buck with ESO than I did with gw2.  If you're looking for an mmo that will last you for years I'm skeptical, but if you're looking for 3 months of entertainment I don't think you'll be disappointed.

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