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ESO Sales Compared to GW2 & SWTOR
fantomace
Member Posts: 12
So almost 3 weeks after launch most fanboys are now less optimistic about ESO sales, they forgot about 5m acc or 10m subs etc. ZEN remains silent, most reviews gives mediocre score, many ppl fleeing already and everyone understands that something is not going well. I m not saying that those things must have an impact to someone who loves the game, but it should to those who shouted all this time about huge sales, records etc.
So have a look in numbers after week 2:
ESO 1st week: 253k 2nd week: 51k total: 304k
GW2 1st week: 849k 2nd week: 181k total:1030k
SWTOR 1st week: 1432k 2nd week: 298k total: 1730k
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70799/the-elder-scrolls-online/Global/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/37350/guild-wars-2/Global/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/31584/star-wars-the-old-republic/Global/
i m saying again, i m not against who ever likes the game, but to those fanboys who were shouting all the time in forums etc.
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Why even care if it sells more or less? Don't you have more important things to do in your life?
If ESO sold about 50k copies, then I would still enjoy the game
You didn't read. I said i wasn't referring to ppl like you that you like and play the game, but for all the fanboys who were shouting all this time.
Thx for that proof. Now we can say with 100% certainty that vgcharts is completely bugged. They list sales for 2013 and 2014 for STWOR, although it turned F2P in 2012. I don't now what they count, but most probably not box/game sales.
There is an expansion in SWTOR that still needs to be paid even today. But if it fits you, you can take the period that it wasn't F2P (if some1 can claim that SWTOR is one) or keep the numbers of GW2 that never got F2P.
Yeap.. no digital sales, steam sales and what not. Just search for DayZ Standalone with over 1.7 million sales(steam).
You do know once the numbers for digital are public Vgcharts go back and revise their number.
Adn again.. look for DayZ standalone.. it is public(through steam sales) and you will find nothing at vgcharts... and it is a few month old.. so no.. they don't revise their numbers.
Edit: Or look for Minecraft (PC Version) and you will find 0 sales. VGcharts is not a viable source for overall sales of games. It just count certain retailer sales. Games sold through steam, or through digital downloads from other sources like from the developer themself will not be counted. And we know.. that nowadays a huge part of PC sales are over steam.. and not counting steam sales make any statistic about pc game sales obsolete.
Edit2: And that is another reason why you find a lot of console sales on their charts but not a lot of pc sales. Not because console out sales pc by a large margin. But much more, because pc sales include a lot of digital downloads directly bought from the developers or through steam. And most console sales are from retailers and therefore vgcharts is more accurate with console sales.. not that i would believe that those numbers are 100% accurate.. but more accurate in comparsion to pc sales.
Ok. So even if we double the numbers and GW2 reaches to 2m, ESO will hardly reach ~600k. Either way, its not even close to 1m, not mention the 2-3m fanboys were claiming or others for 5-10m etc.
Not for long though.
Once again. I m not saying none is playing or none likes the game or whatever. If you like it i m with you, play it, fine by me. Its not my time or money. I m just referring to those bigmouths who were shouting about millions of sales etc.
That's like 2 people.
Even those of us enjoying the game don't think it'll have 10 million subs. WoW doesn't even have 10 million subs anymore. No one except a couple of crazypants think that.
While I am not disagreeing with you, I also feel its important to mention he may also be a Wizard 101 fan as well judging by their posting history.
If SWTOR never existed - ESO numbers would be 5x higher.
The people have been educated - thank you SWTOR - Zenimax is just the first team to learn of this.
This is starting to feel like we are united...
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This is an excellent and very true point making the information by the OP invalid. I spoke with a friend of mine who works for Blizzard in Global business development and licensing, he told me these type of charts do not share many of the total sales of PC games as digital downloads account for many sales. When I asked him about ESO, he told me judging by how they marketed the game, I would imagine about 80- 90% of their sales are online through their website.
You can also enjoy it if only 2 people bought ESO but it isn't good for business now is it?
So yeah low sales do matter.
does that include pre orders and and online sales or only hard copies.
the interesting thing is thank god for that, if they had 2million people sign up chat would be insane.
But otherwise this is very solid game with very few bugs considering ANY games initial release especiatlly an elderscrolls title which are notorosly buggy on release.
I will play for a few months tthen slow down, why becuase there is no end game in any of these mmos except constant reptition of the same raids
Once again. I m not saying none is playing or none likes the game or whatever. If you like it i m with you, play it, fine by me. Its not my time or money. I m just referring to those bigmouths who were shouting about millions of sales etc.
whats the real point to all this? you want to prove tens of people wrong that were "shouting" ESO was gonna sell millions? who cares. vgcharts sucks ass. its not accurate. next thing you're gonna use is xfire.
We have direct confirmation from vgcharts, on a reddit thread, that they did not include any digital sales in that guess. This includes zero information on direct downloads from Zen, which were heavily promoted pre-release and gave you a couple of extra days of early access.
So, no, there aren't just a quarter million copies sold. This has been discussed here and elsewhere.