Played this game in multiple betas and I have to say this is just like every other Korean MMOG. Korean MMOGs are just like American, except more repetitive. Not to mention it's a copy of Lineage II.
IT'S DEFINiTELY A LINEAGE 2 CLONE! SEE L2's CHARACTER PICS..then, DOES IT LOOK FAMILIAR? EVERYTHING'S THE SAME ISN'T IT!?? haha and yes! this game is a grindfest! a super grindfest! VERY POOR, REPITITIVE GAMEPLAY...FOR SHORT, BADUY (baduy=corny)!
"It's definitely better to be lazy than being tired of doing all the chores!"
I wonder wich MMORPG isn't a grind-fest, you might say WoW but hell even that feels like grinding once you get tired of doing quests and quests. And then you might say "If I get bored of quests I just go to the battlegrounds or something" well RF Online have plenty of PvP too so it's not all "grind-fest".
im sorry, i cant decipher that stream of sewage... i can't read things that are in all caps. perhaps i can direct you to the nearest capslock key. its about 7/16 if an inch from the A key. please press it until you are not spewing inane rubbish. that being said, RF online looks like a great game. you couldnt have played in "multiple beta's" seeing as its currently in closed beta, and tehre was one time where it was open for the public for a weekend.
also: sedated, whats the point of using a word nobody knows, then defining it for them. OMGWTFBBQ j00 are a Yxthosthh! (and by the way, a Yxthosthh is a retarded retard)
Originally posted by not12x im sorry, i cant decipher that stream of sewage... i can't read things that are in all caps. perhaps i can direct you to the nearest capslock key. its about 7/16 if an inch from the A key. please press it until you are not spewing inane rubbish. that being said, RF online looks like a great game. you couldnt have played in "multiple beta's" seeing as its currently in closed beta, and tehre was one time where it was open for the public for a weekend. also: sedated, whats the point of using a word nobody knows, then defining it for them. OMGWTFBBQ j00 are a Yxthosthh! (and by the way, a Yxthosthh is a retarded retard)see? thats just stupid.
Originally posted by Taos Played this game in multiple betas and I have to say this is similar to every other Korean MMOG. Korean MMOGs are just like American, except almost everything is handed to you in American MMOGs. Not to mention it has a artstyle like Lineage 2.
Originally posted by Taos Played this game in multiple betas and I have to say this is just like every other Korean MMOG. Korean MMOGs are just like American, except more repetitive. Not to mention it's a copy of Lineage II.
I was hoping that wouldn't be the case with RFOnline. I am looking for a new MMOPRG after quitting WoW two weeks ago after 18 months of playing it and learning first hand that DDO is a big disappointment. I was looking into RFOnline as a possible filler MMORPG until LOTRO and/or Age of Conan came out but not if its a L2 Clone.
If it's a L2 clone or not I do not know, what I know is that you should try to sign in for the beta or check i fthere are free trials after it comes out and come up with your own opinion and pay no mind what people here might say, also, I've been wondering, why do you think DDO is a dissapointment?
What sedated said about rf online being a super grindfest was absolutely right. It is just like every korean mmorpg ive played and worse. Yes a lot of korean games of this sort are grindfests but rf takes it up a notch. Ive played other korean mmos like ro, rose, ryl(not sure if korean), tantra, do online or martial heroes, dark eden, and kingdom of mir. Ive been playing this game in the Philippines for almost a month and im just about sick of it. I dont think i can even call what im doing, "playing" since playing is suppose to be fun or at least ENGAGING. In Rf if you want to have a good build and good stats you have to spend mindless hours and hours and hours killing creeps and buffing other characters in the mines. And ive never had to pot spam like i do in RF. Besides that you might put in some time doing PvP then have to get back to the hours of grind. Thats the only way you can make your character worth anything in battle. The grind in this game is infinite. Expect to watch your stat inch its way higher by .03 % at time. In RF lingo this is called PTing. In it you are not just levelling your character but you have to level the stats of the character individually. You level melee combat by fighting in melee, ranged by fighting with a ranged weapon and so on. Sounds simple? At lower levels its easy but at higher levels its excruciatingly slow. Two things might keep me playing this game. One, the updates on January 24 are great and change the grind dramatically or at least make up for it. Two, the administrators start having some sense and raise the exp for the PT grind (im not sure they can do this). Sedated my hat's off to you by hitting this game dead right. It is BADUY as it is right now. It is not just formulaic but formulaic to the point of being torturous. I can't wait to be playing EVE online again! All in all Rf could have been a great game but the devs messed up by making the character levelling process a task for zombies; clearly no respect for players' imaginations and time. In Korea, there are so many MMOs that a lot of them are just easy ways for the devs to make money by selling them overseas and ways to exercise their programming. There isn't much imagination that goes into the fantasy and sci-fi MMOs because they are mostly derivatives of western mythos and games like dungeons and dragons. DO NOT BE IMPRESSED THAT CODEMASTERS ACQUIRED THIS GAME.
Its not a good game, period. If you just cant get enough PvP, then maybe you'll like it, but I seriously doubt it. Honestly, if you want pvp, just go rent a fighting game with online capability. It'll have skill-based fighting and wont cost you $15 a month.
If you even think that RFO is remotly a clone of L2 you are seriously mistaking. First the only thing even close to L2 is the Cora race and still its debatable. L2 PvP is mostly a joke with clan affraid of going into war because of losing equipment or XP is a pain. Siege only happens every 2 weeks for a few hours and that is if your clan signs for it. The 7 signs that was suppose to be the main competition between the players is a joke ( everyone signs in for Dawn ) Skills dont really involve you gain a level you get some sp you upgrade your skill, unlike RFO where you got to plan your leveling PT stats. Fights arent Hit Hit Hit your dead or rather Sleep Nuke your dead in RFO.
If you are put off by grind I suggest you go play WoW that is more you style. Some people enjoy doing the grind for xp. The only really bad type of grind is the money grind, like in L2 where farmers and bots were the ones inflating the prices and with drops rates that were like insanely impossible you had to be like double your level to manage to buy the equipment you wanted otherwise Ebay was your friend.
It's very easy to say crap about a game has you can see but I wonder why even post about that if you got no interrest in a game. After all if I dont like that TV I am going to buy why buy it and why would I go see all the customers in the store and tell them dont buy that TV because "I" dont like it.
Truely if the game was that bad I dont think it be coming out or rather it wouldnt even be still picking any interrest from people.
I don't get why you subcribed to this forums just to talk crap about this game. Another thing, if it's lik every other Korean MMO and if it's so bad as you put it why it is so famous in Korea and so played in Korea?
You guys all crack me up. "RF has a huge grind..." Um, apparently you don't know much about the game then. You probably played in one of the Betas for a different country (Lets say China). And you assume you know exactly how the game is going to play.
Sure, you can get a general idea, but you guys are very quick to judge a game you know little about. Codemasters has the ability to alter things like exp grinding if they feel it is necessary. And NO ONE has played the Codemaster's version of the beta for any length of time.
Also, though the game has been out on Korea for a while, it is still being updated with huge changes. They already have GIGA update 3, with GIGA update 4 on the horizon.
I just don't understand people judging a game that they have never played (US/EU version). It makes no sense.
Originally posted by Velcroy You guys all crack me up. "RF has a huge grind..." Um, apparently you don't know much about the game then. You probably played in one of the Betas for a different country (Lets say China). And you assume you know exactly how the game is going to play. Sure, you can get a general idea, but you guys are very quick to judge a game you know little about. Codemasters has the ability to alter things like exp grinding if they feel it is necessary. And NO ONE has played the Codemaster's version of the beta for any length of time. Also, though the game has been out on Korea for a while, it is still being updated with huge changes. They already have GIGA update 3, with GIGA update 4 on the horizon. I just don't understand people judging a game that they have never played (US/EU version). It makes no sense.
I've never played this game and probably won't (not a fantasy+scfi mix fan) but you know what cracks me up? People thinking beta will be different in retail.
I've played beta of tons of mmos and none of them have EVER been all that different at release EVER. Once they go retail is another matter as can be seen with AO, SWG and EQ2.
If you somehow think that some new "release only" content or "massive updates for retail" will come out then you are sadly mistaken if past history of every single game is any indications.
I laugh when people somehow think games like DD0 are gonna have tons more quests at release.
Ok first of all, all u RF haters just get the f*** out of here, i think im speakin for the majority of ppl who have been browsing the forums for months now waiting for the release of RFO! TWe dont wanna hear sh** about a game that weve been dying to play! Also i doubt it takes super long to lvl up your char and stats. I no wut long lvling is, i played City of Heroes... Also the guy that said that codemasters can alter it si absolutely correct. They have the power to make it more "American" with quests and other things than just grinding. But if u think about it, every mmo is just one big grind. Yes, even WoW. I mean seriously, kill 9 of these, anmd 15 of these, go bring back someones head (but he has tons of bodyguards), etc. Every game is like that.
Srry if i came out like a jerk, i just want to enjoy waiting for RFO.
Originally posted by Velcroy You guys all crack me up. "RF has a huge grind..." Um, apparently you don't know much about the game then. You probably played in one of the Betas for a different country (Lets say China). And you assume you know exactly how the game is going to play. Sure, you can get a general idea, but you guys are very quick to judge a game you know little about. Codemasters has the ability to alter things like exp grinding if they feel it is necessary. And NO ONE has played the Codemaster's version of the beta for any length of time. Also, though the game has been out on Korea for a while, it is still being updated with huge changes. They already have GIGA update 3, with GIGA update 4 on the horizon. I just don't understand people judging a game that they have never played (US/EU version). It makes no sense.
I've never played this game and probably won't (not a fantasy+scfi mix fan) but you know what cracks me up? People thinking beta will be different in retail.
I've played beta of tons of mmos and none of them have EVER been all that different at release EVER. Once they go retail is another matter as can be seen with AO, SWG and EQ2.
If you somehow think that some new "release only" content or "massive updates for retail" will come out then you are sadly mistaken if past history of every single game is any indications.
I laugh when people somehow think games like DD0 are gonna have tons more quests at release.
What I was saying was not that the released Codemasters Version of the game would be much different than its Beta. What I was saying was that their Beta has potential to be quite a bit different than Betas for other countries. Most people are playing a Beta from China, which will be oriented towards a Chinese playstyle.
The Codemasters Beta isn't out yet, so people have absolutely no idea what small or large changes Codemasters is attempting to make to other versions. A Dev of Codemasters said they have the ability to change exp rates and such, from other versions (which means ther could be less of a grind for those complaining of a grind problem).
Anyway, my only point was to say that no one really knows what the codemasters version will be like yet, since it hasn't even gone to Beta here.
A Dev of Codemasters said they have the ability to change exp rates and such, from other versions (which means ther could be less of a grind for those complaining of a grind problem).
I'm no RF hater but I would like to know if you have proof of your above statement if so then I'll be glad if not I'll buy the game anyways I'm used to grind so not big deal. Also people that claim that have "played" the game stop posting your opininions for when the actual US/UK beta comes out. Peace.
I've never played this game and probably won't (not a fantasy+scfi mix fan) but you know what cracks me up? People thinking beta will be different in retail. I've played beta of tons of mmos and none of them have EVER been all that different at release EVER. Once they go retail is another matter as can be seen with AO, SWG and EQ2. If you somehow think that some new "release only" content or "massive updates for retail" will come out then you are sadly mistaken if past history of every single game is any indications. I laugh when people somehow think games like DD0 are gonna have tons more quests at release.
The "Grind" in beta can be harder than playing a game at release. Main reason is that the devs don't want people blowing past all the content before it hits the public.
Its a beta test so most things will go unchanged, but I'm sure there will locked zones, items, etc.
Ok, for one, who cares if its a "L2 Clone". I certainly don't think it is. It has a unique look, good PVP system, a GREAT skill system and awesome looks! Even though it looks a tad bit like L2(Cora, mostly), its allright! I don't care about the grind. When there's a major grind for leveling, it gives you more satisfaction! Aye...if you w ant to say bad stuff about this game, do it somewhere else...honestly..why did you join this forum anyway? To badmouth a game you've only seen screenshots of and read other people's reviews? You should play it yourself, then say if its bad or not. Yeesh people, have a freakin' heart!
--------------------------------------------- What man fears is not the darkness, but his inner light, and that it would grow too powerfull to contain.
People..you want to complain about a grind fest, go play Tantra and get back to me. While you're at it, try to communicate with the players there.
Games have much more to offer other than similar graphics, etc. There's storyline, battle tactics, ect. There is *one* class that really reminds me of L2..HTH does that make it a clone? Click and run..big deal, there are TONS of MMOs that use that. WASD will fix that. Grinding..big deal! That's part of *any* game. Anyway you think of it, when you're leveling, you're grinding. When you're questing..you're grinding quests for faction or experience. It's required in any game in order to obtain levels, faction or loot. If you don't grind in some fashion, you don't develop your character and you don't advance in the game. Don't want to do that? Don't play..
My last comment is- All* I have been seeing lately is how something is an L2 clone. I did beta for L2. It was beautiful. There were things I liked, there were things I don't like. But, for every game I'm willing to try it out, especially testing if the manufact. needs it and see if I like it myself. If I don't that's too bad - if I do, even better.
The first phase of beta just opened. The only way you would've tested is if you had gotten in before the closed one. That means you either played the one in China (which is not in english) or the one for PH (which I think is closed now). Yeah, I've gotten into the one from China..I've run around a bit. I've seen some of the graphics and checked out the interface. But from this small amount of information you cannot gather a complete opinion of a game.
Either way, opinions of all sorts are out there, I'm not going to scream that you're wrong. It's your opinion. I'm simply sharing mine. Best of luck to you, I hope you find a game that fits you since RF doesn't seem like it's the one for you.
In the meantime, I'll be happy running around and experiencing the new world when it's available.
Lol, what i find extremely hilarious is people thinking that codemasters are gonna make the game tottaly different from the Asian versions, etc.
Expect it to be very similar lol.
Also if codemasters cant even put any effort into making a half-decent website with links that 'OMG' actually work instead of displaying 'no articles available' or something for basically every link, then i dont see too much effort going into the game.
I mean lets face it, ive gotten more info about this game from unofficial sites and about 1% from the official one, thats pretty pathetic.
Dont put so much faith into these guys, they only care about one thing - $$, sure the developers may want to create a great game out of personal interest... but as for the guys on top - $$
Dont be fooled by this people, it wont be much different from any other version.
This isnt an attack about the game itself, so dont get aggro lol, just sayin the lack of effort ive seen from codemasters is indicative, sounds dodgey too me.
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First of all, this is not a copy of Lineage 2, and secondly it can be repetative if it has the best PvP in a game ever!!
Also, explain to me why u think its a copy, i mean like other korean mmo's it is click to move, but can be changed to WASD...
Cheers
IT'S DEFINiTELY A LINEAGE 2 CLONE! SEE L2's CHARACTER PICS..then, DOES IT LOOK FAMILIAR? EVERYTHING'S THE SAME ISN'T IT!?? haha and yes! this game is a grindfest! a super grindfest! VERY POOR, REPITITIVE GAMEPLAY...FOR SHORT, BADUY (baduy=corny)!
"It's definitely better to be lazy than being tired of doing all the chores!"
Dude we honestly don't care if it looks like L2... I am still going to play the game
The dedicated fans of the new game care about the game as it is played, not how the characters look like in comparison to soem other crappy MMO
Nobody cares...move on...
im sorry, i cant decipher that stream of sewage... i can't read things that are in all caps. perhaps i can direct you to the nearest capslock key. its about 7/16 if an inch from the A key. please press it until you are not spewing inane rubbish.
that being said, RF online looks like a great game. you couldnt have played in "multiple beta's" seeing as its currently in closed beta, and tehre was one time where it was open for the public for a weekend.
also: sedated, whats the point of using a word nobody knows, then defining it for them. OMGWTFBBQ j00 are a Yxthosthh! (and by the way, a Yxthosthh is a retarded retard)
see? thats just stupid.
AMEN!!!
So true.. BTW about the artstyle being similar to Lineage 2, is that a bad thing?
Its not a good game, period. If you just cant get enough PvP, then maybe you'll like it, but I seriously doubt it. Honestly, if you want pvp, just go rent a fighting game with online capability. It'll have skill-based fighting and wont cost you $15 a month.
If you even think that RFO is remotly a clone of L2 you are seriously mistaking. First the only thing even close to L2 is the Cora race and still its debatable. L2 PvP is mostly a joke with clan affraid of going into war because of losing equipment or XP is a pain. Siege only happens every 2 weeks for a few hours and that is if your clan signs for it. The 7 signs that was suppose to be the main competition between the players is a joke ( everyone signs in for Dawn ) Skills dont really involve you gain a level you get some sp you upgrade your skill, unlike RFO where you got to plan your leveling PT stats. Fights arent Hit Hit Hit your dead or rather Sleep Nuke your dead in RFO.
If you are put off by grind I suggest you go play WoW that is more you style. Some people enjoy doing the grind for xp. The only really bad type of grind is the money grind, like in L2 where farmers and bots were the ones inflating the prices and with drops rates that were like insanely impossible you had to be like double your level to manage to buy the equipment you wanted otherwise Ebay was your friend.
It's very easy to say crap about a game has you can see but I wonder why even post about that if you got no interrest in a game. After all if I dont like that TV I am going to buy why buy it and why would I go see all the customers in the store and tell them dont buy that TV because "I" dont like it.
Truely if the game was that bad I dont think it be coming out or rather it wouldnt even be still picking any interrest from people.
You guys all crack me up. "RF has a huge grind..." Um, apparently you don't know much about the game then. You probably played in one of the Betas for a different country (Lets say China). And you assume you know exactly how the game is going to play.
Sure, you can get a general idea, but you guys are very quick to judge a game you know little about. Codemasters has the ability to alter things like exp grinding if they feel it is necessary. And NO ONE has played the Codemaster's version of the beta for any length of time.
Also, though the game has been out on Korea for a while, it is still being updated with huge changes. They already have GIGA update 3, with GIGA update 4 on the horizon.
I just don't understand people judging a game that they have never played (US/EU version). It makes no sense.
I've never played this game and probably won't (not a fantasy+scfi mix fan) but you know what cracks me up? People thinking beta will be different in retail.
I've played beta of tons of mmos and none of them have EVER been all that different at release EVER. Once they go retail is another matter as can be seen with AO, SWG and EQ2.
If you somehow think that some new "release only" content or "massive updates for retail" will come out then you are sadly mistaken if past history of every single game is any indications.
I laugh when people somehow think games like DD0 are gonna have tons more quests at release.
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Ok first of all, all u RF haters just get the f*** out of here, i think im speakin for the majority of ppl who have been browsing the forums for months now waiting for the release of RFO! TWe dont wanna hear sh** about a game that weve been dying to play! Also i doubt it takes super long to lvl up your char and stats. I no wut long lvling is, i played City of Heroes... Also the guy that said that codemasters can alter it si absolutely correct. They have the power to make it more "American" with quests and other things than just grinding. But if u think about it, every mmo is just one big grind. Yes, even WoW. I mean seriously, kill 9 of these, anmd 15 of these, go bring back someones head (but he has tons of bodyguards), etc. Every game is like that.
Srry if i came out like a jerk, i just want to enjoy waiting for RFO.
Cheers
I've never played this game and probably won't (not a fantasy+scfi mix fan) but you know what cracks me up? People thinking beta will be different in retail.
I've played beta of tons of mmos and none of them have EVER been all that different at release EVER. Once they go retail is another matter as can be seen with AO, SWG and EQ2.
If you somehow think that some new "release only" content or "massive updates for retail" will come out then you are sadly mistaken if past history of every single game is any indications.
I laugh when people somehow think games like DD0 are gonna have tons more quests at release.
What I was saying was not that the released Codemasters Version of the game would be much different than its Beta. What I was saying was that their Beta has potential to be quite a bit different than Betas for other countries. Most people are playing a Beta from China, which will be oriented towards a Chinese playstyle.
The Codemasters Beta isn't out yet, so people have absolutely no idea what small or large changes Codemasters is attempting to make to other versions. A Dev of Codemasters said they have the ability to change exp rates and such, from other versions (which means ther could be less of a grind for those complaining of a grind problem).
Anyway, my only point was to say that no one really knows what the codemasters version will be like yet, since it hasn't even gone to Beta here.
The "Grind" in beta can be harder than playing a game at release. Main reason is that the devs don't want people blowing past all the content before it hits the public.
Its a beta test so most things will go unchanged, but I'm sure there will locked zones, items, etc.
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What man fears is not the darkness, but his inner light, and that it would grow too powerfull to contain.
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People..you want to complain about a grind fest, go play Tantra and get back to me.
While you're at it, try to communicate with the players there.
Games have much more to offer other than similar graphics, etc.
There's storyline, battle tactics, ect.
There is *one* class that really reminds me of L2..HTH does that make it a clone?
Click and run..big deal, there are TONS of MMOs that use that. WASD will fix that.
Grinding..big deal! That's part of *any* game. Anyway you think of it, when you're leveling, you're grinding.
When you're questing..you're grinding quests for faction or experience.
It's required in any game in order to obtain levels, faction or loot.
If you don't grind in some fashion, you don't develop your character and you don't advance in the game.
Don't want to do that? Don't play..
My last comment is-
All* I have been seeing lately is how something is an L2 clone. I did beta for L2.
It was beautiful. There were things I liked, there were things I don't like. But, for every game I'm willing to try it out, especially testing if the manufact. needs it and see if I like it myself.
If I don't that's too bad - if I do, even better.
The first phase of beta just opened. The only way you would've tested is if you had gotten in before the closed one. That means you either played the one in China (which is not in english) or the one for PH (which I think is closed now). Yeah, I've gotten into the one from China..I've run around a bit. I've seen some of the graphics and checked out the interface. But from this small amount of information you cannot gather a complete opinion of a game.
Either way, opinions of all sorts are out there, I'm not going to scream that you're wrong. It's your opinion. I'm simply sharing mine. Best of luck to you, I hope you find a game that fits you since RF doesn't seem like it's the one for you.
In the meantime, I'll be happy running around and experiencing the new world when it's available.
Best wishes.
Lol, what i find extremely hilarious is people thinking that codemasters are gonna make the game tottaly different from the Asian versions, etc.
Expect it to be very similar lol.
Also if codemasters cant even put any effort into making a half-decent website with links that 'OMG' actually work instead of displaying 'no articles available' or something for basically every link, then i dont see too much effort going into the game.
I mean lets face it, ive gotten more info about this game from unofficial sites and about 1% from the official one, thats pretty pathetic.
Dont put so much faith into these guys, they only care about one thing - $$, sure the developers may want to create a great game out of personal interest... but as for the guys on top - $$
Dont be fooled by this people, it wont be much different from any other version.
This isnt an attack about the game itself, so dont get aggro lol, just sayin the lack of effort ive seen from codemasters is indicative, sounds dodgey too me.
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