Knotwood has been absent for some time, so bcbully is subbing in. He doesn't have the flare for absolutely, totally ridiculous exaggerations and hyperbole that Knotwood had, though, so we have to cut him some slack. Give him credit for trying...
Originally posted by nbtscan So which game are you going to idolize next? It was Age of Wushi before, now it's ESO.
You mean which game am I going to play next? We'll have to see. Maybe the Repopulation, if it's better than ESO. Perhaps Origins of Malu. I have a sweet spot for indy developers and the creativity they bring to the genre.
During my 15 months in Wushu, I always said, "when something better comes along I'll be there." Kinda like Wushu I didn't expect ESO to draw me in. I was a skeptic, very critical of ESO being a theme park w/o Wpvp.
Then came my second beta weekend (I was unimpressed with the first. I hate questing, and I hate tutorials even more) I told myself, "Grit your teeth and make it to level 10. You have to see Cyrodiil." Cyrodiil changed everything. It was bigger than I could have ever imagined. It was a world on to itself, larger than some of entire mmorpgs game worlds.
After that weekend of awesomeness (first weekend in 15 months I didn't play Wushu), I went back to Wushu and found myself jones'n to get back to Cyrodiil. It was completely unexpected, almost unwanted. I had always said when something better came along I'd play. I didn't expect it to be ESO, but there I was wanting more.
Just the best MMO on the market today. I see you act as a hotshot 'round here, maybe you can show me your hotshotness and skillful play in it?
P.S: I like how WildStar is bleeding your favorite MMO's subs. Fun times. When TESO goes finally F2P I'll drop you a message to show you a thing or two about how your reticle doesn't matter the least.
IF Wildstar is bleeding ESO subs I can see why. The game is a lot easier to get into, especially the combat.
same reason why WoW keeps getting subs and sustaining their subs, because blizzard keeps making the game easier and easier overall.
Easier doesn't mean worse.
Which is kinda what you seem to be implying.
Wildstar's combat is intuitive and fun right away, it's also something different.
ESO's combat is clunky and difficult to learn / hard to master. It's combat is a slight variation on tab targeting, reminds me of Age of Conan.
I can easily see why Wildstar won this contest, they made a more ACCESSIBLE game.
Originally posted by AlphaBlaze22 I am not sure where I am at from a combat system standpoint. I'm guilty of saying that I find Neverwinter Online's combat system to be my favorite system so far. Its so smooth and fun, I find myself doing a lot of end game stuff just for the experience. The combat system is so addicting it made me realize I don't actually care about crafting or exploring empty zones. If ESO combat system can deliver that type of satisfaction then hell yeah count me in. I don't mind a sub
I played and liked NWN, especially the combat. TESO is an evolution of that system and it's better. have a look at some video
Just the best MMO on the market today. I see you act as a hotshot 'round here, maybe you can show me your hotshotness and skillful play in it?
P.S: I like how WildStar is bleeding your favorite MMO's subs. Fun times. When TESO goes finally F2P I'll drop you a message to show you a thing or two about how your reticle doesn't matter the least.
IF Wildstar is bleeding ESO subs I can see why. The game is a lot easier to get into, especially the combat.
same reason why WoW keeps getting subs and sustaining their subs, because blizzard keeps making the game easier and easier overall.
Easier doesn't mean worse.
Which is kinda what you seem to be implying.
Wildstar's combat is intuitive and fun right away, it's also something different.
ESO's combat is clunky and difficult to learn / hard to master. It's combat is a slight variation on tab targeting, reminds me of Age of Conan.
I can easily see why Wildstar won this contest, they made a more ACCESSIBLE game.
WS combat is a clunky adaptation of tab target to pseudo action oriented, though the fact you need to press the right mouse button to look around betrays how bad the attempt at integrating both systems is. Fact is: people who like WoW and dumbproof games will like WS and dislike TESO. But that doesn't say anything good about WS or those players, quite teh opposite
Just the best MMO on the market today. I see you act as a hotshot 'round here, maybe you can show me your hotshotness and skillful play in it?
P.S: I like how WildStar is bleeding your favorite MMO's subs. Fun times. When TESO goes finally F2P I'll drop you a message to show you a thing or two about how your reticle doesn't matter the least.
IF Wildstar is bleeding ESO subs I can see why. The game is a lot easier to get into, especially the combat.
same reason why WoW keeps getting subs and sustaining their subs, because blizzard keeps making the game easier and easier overall.
Easier doesn't mean worse.
Which is kinda what you seem to be implying.
Wildstar's combat is intuitive and fun right away, it's also something different.
ESO's combat is clunky and difficult to learn / hard to master. It's combat is a slight variation on tab targeting, reminds me of Age of Conan.
I can easily see why Wildstar won this contest, they made a more ACCESSIBLE game.
WS combat is a clunky adaptation of tab target to pseudo action oriented, though the fact you need to press the right mouse button to look around betrays how bad the attempt at integrating both systems is. Fact is: people who like WoW and dumbproof games will like WS and dislike TESO. But that doesn't say anything good about WS or those players, quite teh opposite
And what does generalisations and judging players' intelligence on basis of a video game they play says about you?
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
Just the best MMO on the market today. I see you act as a hotshot 'round here, maybe you can show me your hotshotness and skillful play in it?
P.S: I like how WildStar is bleeding your favorite MMO's subs. Fun times. When TESO goes finally F2P I'll drop you a message to show you a thing or two about how your reticle doesn't matter the least.
IF Wildstar is bleeding ESO subs I can see why. The game is a lot easier to get into, especially the combat.
same reason why WoW keeps getting subs and sustaining their subs, because blizzard keeps making the game easier and easier overall.
Easier doesn't mean worse.
Which is kinda what you seem to be implying.
Wildstar's combat is intuitive and fun right away, it's also something different.
ESO's combat is clunky and difficult to learn / hard to master. It's combat is a slight variation on tab targeting, reminds me of Age of Conan.
I can easily see why Wildstar won this contest, they made a more ACCESSIBLE game.
WS combat is a clunky adaptation of tab target to pseudo action oriented, though the fact you need to press the right mouse button to look around betrays how bad the attempt at integrating both systems is. Fact is: people who like WoW and dumbproof games will like WS and dislike TESO. But that doesn't say anything good about WS or those players, quite teh opposite
And what does generalisations and judging players' intelligence on basis of a video game they play says about you?
Ah the irony
What? When bad people say bad things about a crappy game you like you cry? poor baby
No amount of crying can save WS and you know. F2P by October/November, as soon as WoD comes out
No one does games for dumb people as well as Blizzard
I don't even like Wildstar..dig through my recent posts you will see that.
So what is this irony you talking about? and thanks for proving my point.
And if i was an ESO fan i wouldn't talk about other MMOS going F2P. Glass houses and all.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
Just the best MMO on the market today. I see you act as a hotshot 'round here, maybe you can show me your hotshotness and skillful play in it?
P.S: I like how WildStar is bleeding your favorite MMO's subs. Fun times. When TESO goes finally F2P I'll drop you a message to show you a thing or two about how your reticle doesn't matter the least.
IF Wildstar is bleeding ESO subs I can see why. The game is a lot easier to get into, especially the combat.
same reason why WoW keeps getting subs and sustaining their subs, because blizzard keeps making the game easier and easier overall.
Easier doesn't mean worse.
Which is kinda what you seem to be implying.
Wildstar's combat is intuitive and fun right away, it's also something different.
ESO's combat is clunky and difficult to learn / hard to master. It's combat is a slight variation on tab targeting, reminds me of Age of Conan.
I can easily see why Wildstar won this contest, they made a more ACCESSIBLE game.
WS combat is a clunky adaptation of tab target to pseudo action oriented, though the fact you need to press the right mouse button to look around betrays how bad the attempt at integrating both systems is. Fact is: people who like WoW and dumbproof games will like WS and dislike TESO. But that doesn't say anything good about WS or those players, quite teh opposite
And what does generalisations and judging players' intelligence on basis of a video game they play says about you?
Ah the irony
What? When bad people say bad things about a crappy game you like you cry? poor baby
No amount of crying can save WS and you know. F2P by October/November, as soon as WoD comes out
No one does games for dumb people as well as Blizzard
I don't even like Wildstar..dig through my recent posts you will see that.
So what is this irony you talking about? and thanks for proving my point.
And if i was an ESO fan i wouldn't talk about other MMOS going F2P. Glass houses and all.
Ah ok, so you just hate on every game in the forums with the same impartial fervour
A man of principle! Crappy principles at that, but that's not what's important!
Just the best MMO on the market today. I see you act as a hotshot 'round here, maybe you can show me your hotshotness and skillful play in it?
P.S: I like how WildStar is bleeding your favorite MMO's subs. Fun times. When TESO goes finally F2P I'll drop you a message to show you a thing or two about how your reticle doesn't matter the least.
IF Wildstar is bleeding ESO subs I can see why. The game is a lot easier to get into, especially the combat.
same reason why WoW keeps getting subs and sustaining their subs, because blizzard keeps making the game easier and easier overall.
Easier doesn't mean worse.
Which is kinda what you seem to be implying.
Wildstar's combat is intuitive and fun right away, it's also something different.
ESO's combat is clunky and difficult to learn / hard to master. It's combat is a slight variation on tab targeting, reminds me of Age of Conan.
I can easily see why Wildstar won this contest, they made a more ACCESSIBLE game.
WS combat is a clunky adaptation of tab target to pseudo action oriented, though the fact you need to press the right mouse button to look around betrays how bad the attempt at integrating both systems is. Fact is: people who like WoW and dumbproof games will like WS and dislike TESO. But that doesn't say anything good about WS or those players, quite teh opposite
And what does generalisations and judging players' intelligence on basis of a video game they play says about you?
Ah the irony
What? When bad people say bad things about a crappy game you like you cry? poor baby
No amount of crying can save WS and you know. F2P by October/November, as soon as WoD comes out
No one does games for dumb people as well as Blizzard
I don't even like Wildstar..dig through my recent posts you will see that.
So what is this irony you talking about? and thanks for proving my point.
And if i was an ESO fan i wouldn't talk about other MMOS going F2P. Glass houses and all.
Ah ok, so you just hate on every game in the forums with the same impartial fervour
A man of principle! Crappy principles at that, but that's not what's important!
And the exaggeration continues.
Hate is a strong word. I prefer 'dislike'. There are plenty of MMOS i am enjoying sadly ESO isn't one of those. Don't feel bad.
I could care less if you say an 'x' game is bad, trust me no skin off my back.
But there is difference between saying a game is bad and that everyone who plays that game is dumb and stupid.
Too hard to criticise a game without insulting the player base? majority of your posts are just pure flame baits.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
Just the best MMO on the market today. I see you act as a hotshot 'round here, maybe you can show me your hotshotness and skillful play in it?
P.S: I like how WildStar is bleeding your favorite MMO's subs. Fun times. When TESO goes finally F2P I'll drop you a message to show you a thing or two about how your reticle doesn't matter the least.
IF Wildstar is bleeding ESO subs I can see why. The game is a lot easier to get into, especially the combat.
same reason why WoW keeps getting subs and sustaining their subs, because blizzard keeps making the game easier and easier overall.
Easier doesn't mean worse.
Which is kinda what you seem to be implying.
Wildstar's combat is intuitive and fun right away, it's also something different.
ESO's combat is clunky and difficult to learn / hard to master. It's combat is a slight variation on tab targeting, reminds me of Age of Conan.
I can easily see why Wildstar won this contest, they made a more ACCESSIBLE game.
WS combat is a clunky adaptation of tab target to pseudo action oriented, though the fact you need to press the right mouse button to look around betrays how bad the attempt at integrating both systems is. Fact is: people who like WoW and dumbproof games will like WS and dislike TESO. But that doesn't say anything good about WS or those players, quite teh opposite
And what does generalisations and judging players' intelligence on basis of a video game they play says about you?
Ah the irony
What? When bad people say bad things about a crappy game you like you cry? poor baby
No amount of crying can save WS and you know. F2P by October/November, as soon as WoD comes out
No one does games for dumb people as well as Blizzard
I don't even like Wildstar..dig through my recent posts you will see that.
So what is this irony you talking about? and thanks for proving my point.
And if i was an ESO fan i wouldn't talk about other MMOS going F2P. Glass houses and all.
Ah ok, so you just hate on every game in the forums with the same impartial fervour
A man of principle! Crappy principles at that, but that's not what's important!
And the exaggeration continues.
Hate is a strong word. I prefer 'dislike'. There are plenty of MMOS i am enjoying sadly ESO isn't one of those. Don't feel bad.
I could care less if you say an 'x' game is bad, trust me no skin off my back.
But there is difference between saying a game is bad and that everyone who plays that game is dumb and stupid.
Too hard to criticise a game without insulting the player base? majority of your posts are just pure flame baits.
That's what you took out of the sentence, I was just gonna imply that they are pretty simple people, who usually prefer crappy blockbusters to a good movie and spend most of their time in McD or KFC....
But when I see someone saying WS combat is very good I feel very sad. Almost as much as reading your usual drool
That's what you took out of the sentence, I was just gonna imply that they are pretty simple people, who usually prefer crappy blockbusters to a good movie and spend most of their time in McD or KFC....
But when I see someone saying WS combat is very good I feel very sad. Almost as much as reading your usual drool
aww...please stop reading my 'drool'. I wouldn't want you to be sad.
I see that you have a bit of a superiority complex when it comes to your tastes in video games. Sadly i don't believe that what video game you chose to play makes you more cool or less simple as a human being.
But if that is how you feel..then ermm... more power to you. We all have the right to feel special.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
That's what you took out of the sentence, I was just gonna imply that they are pretty simple people, who usually prefer crappy blockbusters to a good movie and spend most of their time in McD or KFC....
But when I see someone saying WS combat is very good I feel very sad. Almost as much as reading your usual drool
aww...please stop reading my 'drool'. I wouldn't want you to be sad.
I see that you have a bit of a superiority complex when it comes to your tastes in video games. Sadly i don't believe that what video game you chose to play makes you more cool or less simple as a human being.
But if that is how you feel..then ermm... more power to you. We all have the right to feel special.
That's what you took out of the sentence, I was just gonna imply that they are pretty simple people, who usually prefer crappy blockbusters to a good movie and spend most of their time in McD or KFC....
But when I see someone saying WS combat is very good I feel very sad. Almost as much as reading your usual drool
aww...please stop reading my 'drool'. I wouldn't want you to be sad.
I see that you have a bit of a superiority complex when it comes to your tastes in video games. Sadly i don't believe that what video game you chose to play makes you more cool or less simple as a human being.
But if that is how you feel..then ermm... more power to you. We all have the right to feel special.
No complex, I am just superior.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
What I want to know is why is the OP able to constantly claim that MMORPG.com is paid off for having any positive articles on the game he hates while simultaneously putting out obvious TROLL threads and constantly troll the forums of the games he doesn't like, which is W* obviously, and still not get banned?
Originally posted by GoobyYoYo What I want to know is why is the OP able to constantly claim that MMORPG.com is paid off for having any positive articles on the game he hates while simultaneously putting out obvious TROLL threads and constantly troll the forums of the games he doesn't like, which is W* obviously, and still not get banned?
You made a new account to say that?
Or were you possibly ironically banned for the same reason you complaining about lol
I enjoy ESO combat but for overall feel I like GW2 but in gw2 I don't like the lack of playstyle variety or lack of skill variety..For combat systems my favorite is Rift but I hate the generic feel of combat in Rift...to me the system and the feel are both very important
Originally posted by seraphynx I enjoy ESO combat but for overall feel I like GW2 but in gw2 I don't like the lack of playstyle variety or lack of skill variety..For combat systems my favorite is Rift but I hate the generic feel of combat in Rift...to me the system and the feel are both very important
I hear you man. GW2 was cool, but no block button sucked. Plus like you said really limited variety. I played RIFT for 10 months, rank 8 or something. It was like WoW but grittier and more choice, like you said though, somethings felt really generic. After 10 months all I knew was that I was sent back in time to save the world.
ESO took GW2 combat and added more control over you actions. Being able to fight and kill w/o ever touching a skill on the skill bar adds so much depth to the ESO combat system, that when you do start selecting skills for builds there are so many options. Remember when what's his name said "you swing a sword then you swing a sword again...we don't want you to do that..."? In ESO each battle feels different, because you actually swing your sword/shoot your arrow different each battle.
ESO has the most innovative and visceral combat on the market, action combat. The non skill combat system is what sets ESO apart from WoW, GW2, and WS.
The ability to change what is an auto attack in the games above into a player controlled system is brilliant. The player is in charge of how hard he swings, how fast he swings, when he swings, and the direction of the swing. Couple that with being able to block incoming attacks, interrupt and even stun W/O ever using a skill on your skill bar is ground breaking. The blood, the impact, the creativity has left me saying HELL YEAH many a night. I even once heard someone yelling "WARGASIM" after a huge 100 v 100 push, and I knew what he meant.
The flip side is that there is a steep learning curve. 2 months in with countless hours played and with all my past mmorpg experience, I feel that I have just began to approach the skill cap of my class. Combat in ESO is harsh and challenging. It's enough to keep me, a sandbox pvpr interested in this quest centric thempark mmorpg.
The Combat, The skill system and Cyrodiil are worth the price of admission. If you love pvp like I do, and have not played, you are missing the party of the year.
I was wondering if even 1 person actually liked it. Guess the answer is yes, so in a sense, not a business one, they succeed in creating art. Congrats to Bethesda and Zenimax for making something someone likes.
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
I think the point to ESO combat isn't that it's the best action oriented combat. That isn't the point and pure action combat isn't good for immersive mmorpg game play. It offers a great interactive combat experience with minimal depedence on the UI and on screen distractions (the AOE notifications are minimal compared to Wildstar which is an arcade light show of annoyance).
It works for what it is trying to do. It is also different enough to make some players unwilling to adapt to a new system. If one views the systems for it's strengths it actually works amazingly well outside of ongoing mechanic and skill balancing changes. That said I also like complexity. I enjoy complicated characters and systems. ESO is rather simple for the fact it only allows 5+1 skills per skill bar and you only get 2 skill bars (granted the action systems accounts for many other button options on top of this). I found a work around though ... I play a sorc now which due to one of it's Ultimate abilities gets a 3rd skill bar! Now I can play the most complicated and strategic build possible in the game.
I have many other issues with the game but it's minimal UI and hybrid combat system is a strong point to the game in both form and function.
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Knotwood has been absent for some time, so bcbully is subbing in. He doesn't have the flare for absolutely, totally ridiculous exaggerations and hyperbole that Knotwood had, though, so we have to cut him some slack. Give him credit for trying...
He's just a fan of the game.
You mean which game am I going to play next? We'll have to see. Maybe the Repopulation, if it's better than ESO. Perhaps Origins of Malu. I have a sweet spot for indy developers and the creativity they bring to the genre.
During my 15 months in Wushu, I always said, "when something better comes along I'll be there." Kinda like Wushu I didn't expect ESO to draw me in. I was a skeptic, very critical of ESO being a theme park w/o Wpvp.
Then came my second beta weekend (I was unimpressed with the first. I hate questing, and I hate tutorials even more) I told myself, "Grit your teeth and make it to level 10. You have to see Cyrodiil." Cyrodiil changed everything. It was bigger than I could have ever imagined. It was a world on to itself, larger than some of entire mmorpgs game worlds.
After that weekend of awesomeness (first weekend in 15 months I didn't play Wushu), I went back to Wushu and found myself jones'n to get back to Cyrodiil. It was completely unexpected, almost unwanted. I had always said when something better came along I'd play. I didn't expect it to be ESO, but there I was wanting more.
ITT: people convincing themselves their games is the best, and that it has singularly made all the genre better
Easier doesn't mean worse.
Which is kinda what you seem to be implying.
Wildstar's combat is intuitive and fun right away, it's also something different.
ESO's combat is clunky and difficult to learn / hard to master. It's combat is a slight variation on tab targeting, reminds me of Age of Conan.
I can easily see why Wildstar won this contest, they made a more ACCESSIBLE game.
I played and liked NWN, especially the combat. TESO is an evolution of that system and it's better. have a look at some video
WS combat is a clunky adaptation of tab target to pseudo action oriented, though the fact you need to press the right mouse button to look around betrays how bad the attempt at integrating both systems is. Fact is: people who like WoW and dumbproof games will like WS and dislike TESO. But that doesn't say anything good about WS or those players, quite teh opposite
And what does generalisations and judging players' intelligence on basis of a video game they play says about you?
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
I don't even like Wildstar..dig through my recent posts you will see that.
So what is this irony you talking about? and thanks for proving my point.
And if i was an ESO fan i wouldn't talk about other MMOS going F2P. Glass houses and all.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
Ah ok, so you just hate on every game in the forums with the same impartial fervour
A man of principle! Crappy principles at that, but that's not what's important!
And the exaggeration continues.
Hate is a strong word. I prefer 'dislike'. There are plenty of MMOS i am enjoying sadly ESO isn't one of those. Don't feel bad.
I could care less if you say an 'x' game is bad, trust me no skin off my back.
But there is difference between saying a game is bad and that everyone who plays that game is dumb and stupid.
Too hard to criticise a game without insulting the player base? majority of your posts are just pure flame baits.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
That's what you took out of the sentence, I was just gonna imply that they are pretty simple people, who usually prefer crappy blockbusters to a good movie and spend most of their time in McD or KFC....
But when I see someone saying WS combat is very good I feel very sad. Almost as much as reading your usual drool
It's all a matter of taste when it comes to game play mechanics. I used to love WOW but I can't play it anymore, I hate the combat so much.
Does it make wow bad? no., it just means that I don't like it and I am sure there are about 7 millions out there who feel I am wrong.
aww...please stop reading my 'drool'. I wouldn't want you to be sad.
I see that you have a bit of a superiority complex when it comes to your tastes in video games. Sadly i don't believe that what video game you chose to play makes you more cool or less simple as a human being.
But if that is how you feel..then ermm... more power to you. We all have the right to feel special.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
No complex, I am just superior.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
You made a new account to say that?
Or were you possibly ironically banned for the same reason you complaining about lol
ESO has the absolute worst combat of any MMO I've ever played.
OP, I don't even...
Action combat you say ? Try Blade and Soul, is now Open Beta (russian with english patch)
This game is really action combat game.
ESO and Tera are clunky vs Blade and Soul (Combat system ofc, rest in the game is shit)
l2p
I hear you man. GW2 was cool, but no block button sucked. Plus like you said really limited variety. I played RIFT for 10 months, rank 8 or something. It was like WoW but grittier and more choice, like you said though, somethings felt really generic. After 10 months all I knew was that I was sent back in time to save the world.
ESO took GW2 combat and added more control over you actions. Being able to fight and kill w/o ever touching a skill on the skill bar adds so much depth to the ESO combat system, that when you do start selecting skills for builds there are so many options. Remember when what's his name said "you swing a sword then you swing a sword again...we don't want you to do that..."? In ESO each battle feels different, because you actually swing your sword/shoot your arrow different each battle.
I was wondering if even 1 person actually liked it. Guess the answer is yes, so in a sense, not a business one, they succeed in creating art. Congrats to Bethesda and Zenimax for making something someone likes.
Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.
I think the point to ESO combat isn't that it's the best action oriented combat. That isn't the point and pure action combat isn't good for immersive mmorpg game play. It offers a great interactive combat experience with minimal depedence on the UI and on screen distractions (the AOE notifications are minimal compared to Wildstar which is an arcade light show of annoyance).
It works for what it is trying to do. It is also different enough to make some players unwilling to adapt to a new system. If one views the systems for it's strengths it actually works amazingly well outside of ongoing mechanic and skill balancing changes. That said I also like complexity. I enjoy complicated characters and systems. ESO is rather simple for the fact it only allows 5+1 skills per skill bar and you only get 2 skill bars (granted the action systems accounts for many other button options on top of this). I found a work around though
... I play a sorc now which due to one of it's Ultimate abilities gets a 3rd skill bar! Now I can play the most complicated and strategic build possible in the game.
I have many other issues with the game but it's minimal UI and hybrid combat system is a strong point to the game in both form and function.
You stay sassy!