It would be nice if blocked members wouldn't show up when they are quoted, otherwise I'd use it.
I get what your saying Foomerang
I remember being the biggest fan during the SWG vs World of Warcraft vs Evequest days, I am pretty sure I was blocked by many back then and I blocked as many as well, but always still curious on what they had to say.
Originally posted by IMPYRE Originally posted by FoomerangIt would be nice if blocked members wouldn't show up when they are quoted, otherwise I'd use it.
I get what your saying Foomerang
I remember being the biggest fan during the SWG vs World of Warcraft vs Evequest days, I am pretty sure I was blocked by many back then and I blocked as many as well, but always still curious on what they had to say.
hehe yeah. Not only that, but people tend to quote trollish posts and you end up seeing it anyway while reading through. Despite the fact that you may have blocked that person. You may not see their original post, but you'll definitely see it a dozen times in quotes from people you don't have blocked.
Originally posted by Norewon I think Carbines biggest mistake was letting the 7 day free trial accounts be able to post in their forums, this is allowing all the people who have already quit or people like BcBully to post hate threads like crazy...
They did right for letting ppl posting, playing beta weekends, open beta and ofc 7 day trial. WS is not a cash grab. You can check it before you buy the game. They also believe in their product and this is obvious. Anyway if someone likes the game he will buy it or continue playing, whatever trolls or whiners say. Imo the only thing left for Carbine Devs is to keep their promise about fast and quality content updates. And ofc to keep Listening
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I think it is funny just last week people was praise Carbine for keep the bots out of the game and now people say that it is bots everywhere. Fact is the war agains bots is ungoing thing in any mmo even blizzard have then in battleground and honest it is not fun i still don't understand how people 1st can pay a subscribe fee each month and 2nd use a bot program to play for them talk about throw your money out the window.
Originally posted by Wolfshead I think it is funny just last week people was praise Carbine for keep the bots out of the game and now people say that it is bots everywhere. Fact is the war agains bots is ungoing thing in any mmo even blizzard have then in battleground and honest it is not fun i still don't understand how people 1st can pay a subscribe fee each month and 2nd use a bot program to play for them talk about throw your money out the window.
Whos saying there are tons of bots? There is 1 post about bots for wildstar which is by someone who seems to usually bash whatever game he isnt playing. ESO was full of bots everywhere and still are, farming bosses, public dungeons, farming werewolves and vampires, etc.
Yes the war on bots will continue but its not even that bad really for the most part. Most people will never be affected by a bot.
To answer your question why someone would subscribe and use a bot, you are paying $15 a month. You can only spend 2 hours a day playing with work, sleep, kids, wife, etc. So for 22 hours a day you are wasting money. Botting helps reduce that waste.
Originally posted by Wolfshead I think it is funny just last week people was praise Carbine for keep the bots out of the game and now people say that it is bots everywhere. Fact is the war agains bots is ungoing thing in any mmo even blizzard have then in battleground and honest it is not fun i still don't understand how people 1st can pay a subscribe fee each month and 2nd use a bot program to play for them talk about throw your money out the window.
Whos saying there are tons of bots? There is 1 post about bots for wildstar which is by someone who seems to usually bash whatever game he isnt playing. ESO was full of bots everywhere and still are, farming bosses, public dungeons, farming werewolves and vampires, etc.
Yes the war on bots will continue but its not even that bad really for the most part. Most people will never be affected by a bot.
To answer your question why someone would subscribe and use a bot, you are paying $15 a month. You can only spend 2 hours a day playing with work, sleep, kids, wife, etc. So for 22 hours a day you are wasting money. Botting helps reduce that waste.
Originally posted by Wolfshead I think it is funny just last week people was praise Carbine for keep the bots out of the game and now people say that it is bots everywhere. Fact is the war agains bots is ungoing thing in any mmo even blizzard have then in battleground and honest it is not fun i still don't understand how people 1st can pay a subscribe fee each month and 2nd use a bot program to play for them talk about throw your money out the window.
Whos saying there are tons of bots? There is 1 post about bots for wildstar which is by someone who seems to usually bash whatever game he isnt playing. ESO was full of bots everywhere and still are, farming bosses, public dungeons, farming werewolves and vampires, etc.
Yes the war on bots will continue but its not even that bad really for the most part. Most people will never be affected by a bot.
To answer your question why someone would subscribe and use a bot, you are paying $15 a month. You can only spend 2 hours a day playing with work, sleep, kids, wife, etc. So for 22 hours a day you are wasting money. Botting helps reduce that waste.
This is some, just from the first 2 pages of the official forums.
Still only about 1/10 as bad as ESO was and is. Looks like Carbine is doing a good job against them. No reports of people getting banned for reporting bots or doing nothing at all. Looks like a smooth start so far. Thanks for letting us know how well everything is going compared to other games.
There's nothing that will kill the competitive spirit of small scale pvp faster than joining a match and finding your team is undermanned because of bots.
I tought you where still playing ESo?
and no, its not that bad.... Espescially not on the eu servers
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Originally posted by Wolfshead I think it is funny just last week people was praise Carbine for keep the bots out of the game and now people say that it is bots everywhere. Fact is the war agains bots is ungoing thing in any mmo even blizzard have then in battleground and honest it is not fun i still don't understand how people 1st can pay a subscribe fee each month and 2nd use a bot program to play for them talk about throw your money out the window.
Whos saying there are tons of bots? There is 1 post about bots for wildstar which is by someone who seems to usually bash whatever game he isnt playing. ESO was full of bots everywhere and still are, farming bosses, public dungeons, farming werewolves and vampires, etc.
Yes the war on bots will continue but its not even that bad really for the most part. Most people will never be affected by a bot.
To answer your question why someone would subscribe and use a bot, you are paying $15 a month. You can only spend 2 hours a day playing with work, sleep, kids, wife, etc. So for 22 hours a day you are wasting money. Botting helps reduce that waste.
There are bots everywhere in ESO? Funny, I haven't seem any in weeks and yes I am still playing.
Is it this bad? Answer: No not even close. The game is actually a beautifully orchestrated masterpiece of an mmorpg. It's going to go down as one of the greatest in history. Life is good.
Originally posted by Amana Guys, the topic of the thread is not the OP. And remember that personal attacks and callouts are not allowed under the rules of this forum. Please stick to the actual thread topic.
Just to clarify..
Is the actual topic of the thread to try and tarnish the reputation of a game by posting threads from another forum in the hopes of getting people to try and defend the game and create arguments about the game in question?
Bots in PvP don't really bother me. (I don't PvP) If they were swarming in single player dungeons, ala ESO, preventing me from completing the dungeon, then, yes, I would have a problem.
Originally posted by yaminsux Bots are everywhere, ESO managed to keep most of them out (bar starting areas). But this is a neverending battle, same as fighting RMTers.
Khm, playing only PVE and questing, so far not a single bot. Not that I think I'm able to see them all. In Aion zillion of them mining and doing other stuff and exploits. Not a single one in Wildstar in pve.
Originally posted by yaminsux Bots are everywhere, ESO managed to keep most of them out (bar starting areas). But this is a neverending battle, same as fighting RMTers.
Khm, playing only PVE and questing, so far not a single bot. Not that I think I'm able to see them all. In Aion zillion of them mining and doing other stuff and exploits. Not a single one in Wildstar in pve.
I m not much of a PvP player myself and i have done only a few bg's to express an opinion, but as it concerns the open world and pve content, i m lvl 31 and i haven't seen even a single bot yet.
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Im in the 20-49 bracket now, and i see bots and afker on bg's each day. Mostly the same names over and over. Some normal names like Match or Xie, and some typical bot name like ghwkgyy. They are real cancer. Yestarday after one bg i told to myself its time to stop plain this game, we had 8 bots in one bg, 5 on Dominion and 3 on Exiles.
Almost each year new mmo starts and always i see the same shit happening, do the devs not learn from others mistakes ?
Im in the 20-49 bracket now, and i see bots and afker on bg's ech day. Mostly the same names over and over. Some normal names like Match or Xie, and some typical bot name like ghwkgyy. They are real cancer. Yestarday after one bg i told to myself its time to start plain this game, we had 8 bots in one bg, 5 on Dominion and 3 on Exiles.Almost each year new mmo starts and always i see the same shit happening, do the devs not learn from others mistakes ?
Bots are real cancer in every MMOs and quite hard to battle. Devs need to commit active resources to combat them.
ESO does this, I saw GM login and asking players where bots are and starting to banhammering them. Now ESO are almost bot and spammer-free.
Im in the 20-49 bracket now, and i see bots and afker on bg's ech day. Mostly the same names over and over. Some normal names like Match or Xie, and some typical bot name like ghwkgyy. They are real cancer. Yestarday after one bg i told to myself its time to start plain this game, we had 8 bots in one bg, 5 on Dominion and 3 on Exiles.
Almost each year new mmo starts and always i see the same shit happening, do the devs not learn from others mistakes ?
Bots are real cancer in every MMOs and quite hard to battle. Devs need to commit active resources to combat them.
ESO does this, I saw GM login and asking players where bots are and starting to banhammering them. Now ESO are almost bot and spammer-free.
This is because the majority of players lost their interest for ESO. When this happens to WS too, bots and spammers will move to their next trending mmo. None can do many about bots. They are and always will be a step ahead, whatever Devs do.
All Time Favorites: EQ1, WoW, EvE, GW1 Playing Now: WoW, ESO, GW2
Im in the 20-49 bracket now, and i see bots and afker on bg's ech day. Mostly the same names over and over. Some normal names like Match or Xie, and some typical bot name like ghwkgyy. They are real cancer. Yestarday after one bg i told to myself its time to start plain this game, we had 8 bots in one bg, 5 on Dominion and 3 on Exiles.
Almost each year new mmo starts and always i see the same shit happening, do the devs not learn from others mistakes ?
Bots are real cancer in every MMOs and quite hard to battle. Devs need to commit active resources to combat them.
ESO does this, I saw GM login and asking players where bots are and starting to banhammering them. Now ESO are almost bot and spammer-free.
This is because the majority of players lost their interest for ESO. When this happens to WS too, bots and spammers will move to their next trending mmo. None can do many about bots. They are and always will be a step ahead, whatever Devs do.
ESO was actively addressing bots since the week of launch. GM's were popping in constantly and doing sweeps. They patched in fixes to address the issues as they arose, changes were made to loot drops that made bot camping solo dungeons pointless.
I get that hating on ESO is a thing, its been a thing since before launch and the vast majority of you guys seem to have picked every single minor quibble as an excuse to validate your predetermined views of the game... but lets not try to change reality here. Bots existed in ESO, they were aggressively gone after by the GMs and now are mostly gone, population movement played less of a part in it then you seem to believe.
Im in the 20-49 bracket now, and i see bots and afker on bg's ech day. Mostly the same names over and over. Some normal names like Match or Xie, and some typical bot name like ghwkgyy. They are real cancer. Yestarday after one bg i told to myself its time to start plain this game, we had 8 bots in one bg, 5 on Dominion and 3 on Exiles.
Almost each year new mmo starts and always i see the same shit happening, do the devs not learn from others mistakes ?
Bots are real cancer in every MMOs and quite hard to battle. Devs need to commit active resources to combat them.
ESO does this, I saw GM login and asking players where bots are and starting to banhammering them. Now ESO are almost bot and spammer-free.
This is because the majority of players lost their interest for ESO. When this happens to WS too, bots and spammers will move to their next trending mmo. None can do many about bots. They are and always will be a step ahead, whatever Devs do.
ESO was actively addressing bots since the week of launch. GM's were popping in constantly and doing sweeps. They patched in fixes to address the issues as they arose, changes were made to loot drops that made bot camping solo dungeons pointless.
I get that hating on ESO is a thing, its been a thing since before launch and the vast majority of you guys seem to have picked every single minor quibble as an excuse to validate your predetermined views of the game... but lets not try to change reality here. Bots existed in ESO, they were aggressively gone after by the GMs and now are mostly gone, population movement played less of a part in it then you seem to believe.
Come on now. It was about a month in before they were doing much about the bot problems. The bots that farmed open world dungeons, bosses, and certain creatures, that made it close to impossible for people to get what they needed.
They then had the huge trouble with Dupes, people where screaming for a full wipe it got that bad.
On top of that the game breaking bugs in the game, people not able to complete quests lines, falling through the ground, getting banned for falling through the ground because of "exploits", storage bug that wiped all of your items, having your account name displayed whenever anyone friends you or ignores you or is in your guild which is still not fixed and probably will never be, the list goes on.
I planned on picking this game up after the dust settled but once the reviews came in it was clear to see that it was not the game for me.
- hire some low wage dude for each server, who focuses on following those reports, and if all are solved, hunts botters on his/her own
- that person checks each report, tells the reporting person whether it's a bot or not, and if its a bot, instantly permabands that user
That would solve the problem. Instead, in most games, there is one guy who once in a week checks out a tenth of the reported bots and gives a tenth of those a mild warning.
Im in the 20-49 bracket now, and i see bots and afker on bg's ech day. Mostly the same names over and over. Some normal names like Match or Xie, and some typical bot name like ghwkgyy. They are real cancer. Yestarday after one bg i told to myself its time to start plain this game, we had 8 bots in one bg, 5 on Dominion and 3 on Exiles.
Almost each year new mmo starts and always i see the same shit happening, do the devs not learn from others mistakes ?
Bots are real cancer in every MMOs and quite hard to battle. Devs need to commit active resources to combat them.
ESO does this, I saw GM login and asking players where bots are and starting to banhammering them. Now ESO are almost bot and spammer-free.
This is because the majority of players lost their interest for ESO. When this happens to WS too, bots and spammers will move to their next trending mmo. None can do many about bots. They are and always will be a step ahead, whatever Devs do.
ESO was actively addressing bots since the week of launch. GM's were popping in constantly and doing sweeps. They patched in fixes to address the issues as they arose, changes were made to loot drops that made bot camping solo dungeons pointless.
I get that hating on ESO is a thing, its been a thing since before launch and the vast majority of you guys seem to have picked every single minor quibble as an excuse to validate your predetermined views of the game... but lets not try to change reality here. Bots existed in ESO, they were aggressively gone after by the GMs and now are mostly gone, population movement played less of a part in it then you seem to believe.
Come on now. It was about a month in before they were doing much about the bot problems. The bots that farmed open world dungeons, bosses, and certain creatures, that made it close to impossible for people to get what they needed.
They then had the huge trouble with Dupes, people where screaming for a full wipe it got that bad.
On top of that the game breaking bugs in the game, people not able to complete quests lines, falling through the ground, getting banned for falling through the ground because of "exploits", storage bug that wiped all of your items, having your account name displayed whenever anyone friends you or ignores you or is in your guild which is still not fixed and probably will never be, the list goes on.
I planned on picking this game up after the dust settled but once the reviews came in it was clear to see that it was not the game for me.
1) World Bosses were not camped by bots, it was entirely in the solo instances (Soulstone farming for cash). GM's started appearing shortly thereafter and issue itself was patched out soon there after. Bots were banned throughout this whole issue. Additionally, it was still possible to complete those instances... I did not have a single one that I was unable to finish despite an army of bots camping it.
2) People scream about dupe bugs in every single game, they yell for server wipes and then piss and moan about losing time when they happened. This is not exactly an issue exclusive to ESO. It was also addressed.
3) I played since launch, I've yet to see a 'game breaking bug'. You are simply using a catchall term to justify your hate for the game. What exactly was game breaking? Storage issues.. had that happen, was annoying. Bots.. again those were annoying at best. Dupe bugs.. the AH system ESO has actually limits how many people this would affect anyway(look to NW on how bad dupe issues can actually get), so at worse someone made some extra cash for themselves. Mistaken bannings happen all the time, and were addressed shortly after as well. Account names, now your in nitpicking territory, I'm not a fan of the system myself but used to it after playing GW2 and a slew of Cryptic games.
At the end of the day, the point remains.. all this shit happens in every game. Some however earn a pass while others have the bugs used as an excuse to drive home the point about how 'terrible' said game is. Double standards.
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I get what your saying Foomerang
I remember being the biggest fan during the SWG vs World of Warcraft vs Evequest days, I am pretty sure I was blocked by many back then and I blocked as many as well, but always still curious on what they had to say.
I remember being the biggest fan during the SWG vs World of Warcraft vs Evequest days, I am pretty sure I was blocked by many back then and I blocked as many as well, but always still curious on what they had to say.
hehe yeah. Not only that, but people tend to quote trollish posts and you end up seeing it anyway while reading through. Despite the fact that you may have blocked that person. You may not see their original post, but you'll definitely see it a dozen times in quotes from people you don't have blocked.
Originally posted by Arskaaa
"when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".
They did right for letting ppl posting, playing beta weekends, open beta and ofc 7 day trial. WS is not a cash grab. You can check it before you buy the game. They also believe in their product and this is obvious. Anyway if someone likes the game he will buy it or continue playing, whatever trolls or whiners say. Imo the only thing left for Carbine Devs is to keep their promise about fast and quality content updates. And ofc to keep Listening
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Whos saying there are tons of bots? There is 1 post about bots for wildstar which is by someone who seems to usually bash whatever game he isnt playing. ESO was full of bots everywhere and still are, farming bosses, public dungeons, farming werewolves and vampires, etc.
Yes the war on bots will continue but its not even that bad really for the most part. Most people will never be affected by a bot.
To answer your question why someone would subscribe and use a bot, you are paying $15 a month. You can only spend 2 hours a day playing with work, sleep, kids, wife, etc. So for 22 hours a day you are wasting money. Botting helps reduce that waste.
^This
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https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/73156-bots-raging-against-the-machines/
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/74854-the-use-of-bots-in-pvp/
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/74658-think-i-had-my-full/
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/73463-bot-solution-contribution-requirement/
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/71768-i-bought-wildstar-to-pvp/
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/73381-afk-and-bots/
This is some, just from the first 2 pages of the official forums.
Still only about 1/10 as bad as ESO was and is. Looks like Carbine is doing a good job against them. No reports of people getting banned for reporting bots or doing nothing at all. Looks like a smooth start so far. Thanks for letting us know how well everything is going compared to other games.
The people that play objective based PvP matches as if it is just team death match could not be more aggravating.
I tought you where still playing ESo?
and no, its not that bad.... Espescially not on the eu servers
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There are bots everywhere in ESO? Funny, I haven't seem any in weeks and yes I am still playing.
Just to clarify..
Is the actual topic of the thread to try and tarnish the reputation of a game by posting threads from another forum in the hopes of getting people to try and defend the game and create arguments about the game in question?
Bots in PvP don't really bother me. (I don't PvP) If they were swarming in single player dungeons, ala ESO, preventing me from completing the dungeon, then, yes, I would have a problem.
Khm, playing only PVE and questing, so far not a single bot. Not that I think I'm able to see them all. In Aion zillion of them mining and doing other stuff and exploits. Not a single one in Wildstar in pve.
I m not much of a PvP player myself and i have done only a few bg's to express an opinion, but as it concerns the open world and pve content, i m lvl 31 and i haven't seen even a single bot yet.
All Time Favorites: EQ1, WoW, EvE, GW1
Playing Now: WoW, ESO, GW2
Im in the 20-49 bracket now, and i see bots and afker on bg's each day. Mostly the same names over and over. Some normal names like Match or Xie, and some typical bot name like ghwkgyy. They are real cancer. Yestarday after one bg i told to myself its time to stop plain this game, we had 8 bots in one bg, 5 on Dominion and 3 on Exiles.
Almost each year new mmo starts and always i see the same shit happening, do the devs not learn from others mistakes ?
Bots are real cancer in every MMOs and quite hard to battle. Devs need to commit active resources to combat them.
ESO does this, I saw GM login and asking players where bots are and starting to banhammering them. Now ESO are almost bot and spammer-free.
This is because the majority of players lost their interest for ESO. When this happens to WS too, bots and spammers will move to their next trending mmo. None can do many about bots. They are and always will be a step ahead, whatever Devs do.
All Time Favorites: EQ1, WoW, EvE, GW1
Playing Now: WoW, ESO, GW2
ESO was actively addressing bots since the week of launch. GM's were popping in constantly and doing sweeps. They patched in fixes to address the issues as they arose, changes were made to loot drops that made bot camping solo dungeons pointless.
I get that hating on ESO is a thing, its been a thing since before launch and the vast majority of you guys seem to have picked every single minor quibble as an excuse to validate your predetermined views of the game... but lets not try to change reality here. Bots existed in ESO, they were aggressively gone after by the GMs and now are mostly gone, population movement played less of a part in it then you seem to believe.
Come on now. It was about a month in before they were doing much about the bot problems. The bots that farmed open world dungeons, bosses, and certain creatures, that made it close to impossible for people to get what they needed.
They then had the huge trouble with Dupes, people where screaming for a full wipe it got that bad.
On top of that the game breaking bugs in the game, people not able to complete quests lines, falling through the ground, getting banned for falling through the ground because of "exploits", storage bug that wiped all of your items, having your account name displayed whenever anyone friends you or ignores you or is in your guild which is still not fixed and probably will never be, the list goes on.
I planned on picking this game up after the dust settled but once the reviews came in it was clear to see that it was not the game for me.
The solution to botters is:
- add a simple to use report function
- hire some low wage dude for each server, who focuses on following those reports, and if all are solved, hunts botters on his/her own
- that person checks each report, tells the reporting person whether it's a bot or not, and if its a bot, instantly permabands that user
That would solve the problem. Instead, in most games, there is one guy who once in a week checks out a tenth of the reported bots and gives a tenth of those a mild warning.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
1) World Bosses were not camped by bots, it was entirely in the solo instances (Soulstone farming for cash). GM's started appearing shortly thereafter and issue itself was patched out soon there after. Bots were banned throughout this whole issue. Additionally, it was still possible to complete those instances... I did not have a single one that I was unable to finish despite an army of bots camping it.
2) People scream about dupe bugs in every single game, they yell for server wipes and then piss and moan about losing time when they happened. This is not exactly an issue exclusive to ESO. It was also addressed.
3) I played since launch, I've yet to see a 'game breaking bug'. You are simply using a catchall term to justify your hate for the game. What exactly was game breaking? Storage issues.. had that happen, was annoying. Bots.. again those were annoying at best. Dupe bugs.. the AH system ESO has actually limits how many people this would affect anyway(look to NW on how bad dupe issues can actually get), so at worse someone made some extra cash for themselves. Mistaken bannings happen all the time, and were addressed shortly after as well. Account names, now your in nitpicking territory, I'm not a fan of the system myself but used to it after playing GW2 and a slew of Cryptic games.
At the end of the day, the point remains.. all this shit happens in every game. Some however earn a pass while others have the bugs used as an excuse to drive home the point about how 'terrible' said game is. Double standards.