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Gold Buyers : Losers or Not?
lunatiquez
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I've been thinking since I met gold sellers for the first time many years ago in mmo, mostly mmorpg. Why would anyone buy gold if they can gather it themselves and actually have fun while doing that?
Are gamers have been downgraded that much that they want everything instantly? Or is it only me being jealous of their wallet?
Moreover, gold buyers are the ones who ruined mmo, as they are the main source of income of gold sellers. No buyer, no gold seller, right?
What do you think?
Result : There are still people who think it's okay to have gold seller spam & bots roam around our precious mmos. Just let them be, right, no need to report nor bitch those bots & gold seller.
Clarification : I'm talking about losers in gaming. People who can't compete fair and square with people who actually play the game. People who make excuse they have little time due to real life activities so it's okay to buy gold. Losers in gaming.
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Goldbuyers are people who enjoy a game and find that their time is more valuable than the cash it costs to buy it.
Am I going to spend an hour getting 200 gold or am I going to work for $20 an hour and buy 10k gold? This is the mindset of those people. They already spend countless hours having fun in the game they dont want to ruin that with doing stuff they find boring. That is how you lose interest in games.
If every time you log in you are having fun you will stay in the game longer. If you know you have to farm a few hours going around in circles just so you can get to the fun part do you think you will continue to log in after awhile.
That's the point right there - if players would rather pay money rather than collect the gold themselves - or pay someone else to level up their characters (power leveling services) then that suggests these activities are not 'fun'.
That's a game design problem.
Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.
I agree with some of the others, if you have fun leveling up or grinding for gold/farming then there really isn't much reason to buy gold. Although some MMOs believe that everything should cost extremely expensive amounts, amounts that would take you hours/days/weeks to obtain for items that arn't really that much better or useful.
Anyway it needs to start with the developers creating something that is fun.
I always though game companies have taken it too easy on the gold buyers. Most get just a slap on the wrist by having the money taken away and told not to do it again.
I think they should get a one week ban for their first offense. Then two weeks for their second, and then a month, and then a perma-ban on their fourth.
Gold buyers are the whole reason there are gold sellers.
We all know gold sellers destabilize the game economy, interfere with legit players from playing the game, gathering resources and fighting mobs. They harass players by spamming local chat and whispered chat, along with clogging up mailboxes. They almost all use stolen credit cards so they have a real effect on people and the rates we all pay for credit cards. The sap away resources and money from the game companies because they have to investigate and then follow up on stolen accounts, hacks, exploits, and harassments.
And its all because of the gold buyers.
I also think players who break the rules should have that tagged to all their characters names. So if someone is a gold buyer and I hover over their name it should say along with their class level and so on, "Caught Twice Gold Buyer".
Peer pressure is one of the most effective, useful, easy, and cheapest ways to get people to conform to an accepted type of behavior.
"I understand that if I hear any more words come pouring out of your **** mouth, Ill have to eat every fucking chicken in this room."
People buy gold because it's not fun to find the gold themselves. Every single mmo, AAA mmo particularly, have gold sellers and buyers. So there is no decent mmo around?
I know that there are some decent sites around which also sell gold. I've bought some games and game timecard off them and they're legit. The sites are also selling gold for various mmos. Why would they want to scam their customer if they're doing a legit job of selling game copies and all?
These days, publishers are also going into the route by 'soft selling' gold to the players. You know what I mean, selling item or subscription which can be sold to other players, etc. Legal gold sellers, for god's sake. I wonder where is this genre going from now on.
This genre going to it own tomb then raise up like mummy. lol
IMO , gold buyers not losers but cyber crime and sometime part of money laundering (i know there are some case but can't go detail) .
They are people that must be punish by the law .
The MMORPG publishers may try to blind they eyes but crime is still crime .
Personally , i think it time to remove trade system out of theme park MMORPG.
It don't have any role in nowadays MMORPG and become more game breaking element.
If it about alt character then you can share gold , item between character in same account through bank
or make alt accounts relate to your main account to help sharing item between characters .
People buy gold because there are things in the MMO they desire enough to spend real money for. If the game wasn't perceived as "decent" by those that buy the gold, they wouldn't be investing more money in it. They would invest less (i.e. LEAVE).
When you go to a sports game, do you buy a jersey because you're bored and not having fun? When you go to a concert, do you buy the shirt to help you enjoy the music more?
Don't you do those things because you are already enjoying it to the point of being willing to spend extra on it?
If you really do want to figure out if people are "losers or not" for how they chose to pay for their entertainment, it seems the first thing you need to do is ditch the illogical rationalizations you've created to villainize, insult or berate them for doing what they do. The whole 'bypass the content' talking point is getting old, but you guys seem to love that one, so I guess it's not going away anytime soon, no matter how ridiculous it is.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Losers, A Gold Buyer is to a video game what a steroid taking athlete is to sports. In both cases they are trying to "buy" an advantage that is outside the rules.
In both cases I believe all rewards and merits accumulated should be stripped from them and on repeat offenses lifetime bans would be inorder.
Please note games which themselves endorse a internal gold selling program should in my opinion be boycotted as the best way to deal with this issue is not to encourage it.
In short cheating bad in real life and video games.
Ehh im not really sure. I use to sell gold in WoW. Just by myself I could make around 300k gold to these companies which sells for about $210. Not that hard to get either.
"Games like EVE have currency exit the market but themeparks cant have that."
All MMOs have currency exiting, including themeparks. The amount that leaves a themepark MMO just through auction tax and gear repair each day is usually pretty astronomical.
"World's natural resources (ore, plants etc) should be finite and set on certain cyclical and randomized spawns."
That's a scary combination. Doable, but scary.
What do you do when a player, guild or alliance hoards all of a particular resource? And if the spawns are randomized, how does a player know whether he is just having bad luck or if he is futilely hunting for something he will never find? That said, SWG had finite spawns, which is proof that it can work in the right balance/environment.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
I can understand the allure of avoiding the grind, paying some bucks and have a ton of ingame gold.
Still, I wouldn't do it, and I despise the people who do. They're the reason why there are bots farming gold.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
AHA! We got one!!!! =P
Seriously though, we still don't know if the companies you sold too weren't some outlet of the publisher incognito >.>
If it was blizzard couldnt they just hit +1000000000000000 gold and sell it? Why would they have to waste resources to buy from me?
So in this example.. we're buying shirts from third party sellers a block away from the venue? Like the ones that say "Greatful Dead" or "Slipnot" on them?
Buying from authorized vendors is encouraged. Nowhere on my tickets does it say "Warning: Purchasing team gear may result in forfeiture of seats".
- Nellus
Companies according to these forums are not driven by profit but evil, so the do all the shady and evil stuff, regardless whether it makes them money or makes any sense at all. Didn't you know that?
...and that is what happens when you buy that new shiny hat from the cash shop?
Maybe its because you dont understand it? Botting, gold farmers, and gold buyers is not that harmful to the economy of a game actually. Play the AH and you can destroy an economy very quickly and its very easy as well.