Now that being said, the shitstorm that will rage around this game come release day will be epic... and i will have the popcorn ready. Because so many people have invested so much in to something that literally only exists in their head. No real game will be able to live up to that vision.
Stop making sense! The eternal cycle of drooling with anticipation and righteous anger a week into the release of new games must never be broken! Bad things could happen!
Imagine the poor developers having to labour their asses off in the deep mines of quality assurance and the quarrys of game design 101 just because people expect to see a finished and working product before delivering payment. When in all demons name would they find time to think out new features which they can promise in interviews and shiny videos? It is not important that these features will never see the light of implementation. - the good will and marketing are what counts!
On second thought. forget that. Care sharing that popcorn?
The more suckers that buy virtual ships, the better Star Citizen will be when it's released. Win for me.
More $$$ =/= a better game. Have a look at the most expensive video games ever produced. How many of them are near to your heart? For me, the answer is none. For me, games like Darwinia, Escape Velocity, The Ancient Art of War at Sea, and Vendetta Online are the ones that stay with me and leave a lasting impression. Whatever Star Citizen is, remains to be seen.
It's rare to see another lover of Escape Velocity and Darwinia! The former game and its sequels absorbed hundreds of hours of my childhood. Heck, I usually replay one of them every year even. That game is also an example of how you don't need all sorts of fancy tech to make a good game: even in that day and age better technology was available, but a game made up out of simple sprites ended up being a masterpiece.
Personally I can't match how there is a great deal of outrage over Trion asking $150 for alpha access to Archeage, a game that actually exists in a playable and fun state. But people line up to defend this dev selling $150 virtual ships for a game that doesn't exist in a playable state yet, in other words: selling packets of air.
God, I realise the prospect of dogfighting and walking around inside ships and permadeath and exploration etc., are all very exciting. But for the love of god, develop a little sense for criticism.
Why the rest of us are interested how this turns out? Because crowdfunding does have a place and this project has simply become "too big to fail" in that regard. If the final thing isn't at all up to par, that will have the effect of dropping a dozen H-bombs on crowdfunding in general.
I don't think all is doomed even if it's not a masterpiece. Why would I expect a 50 million production to be so much better than the 250 million production we had recently ? I think it have potential to be a really awesome game, but even if it isn't, it won't be the end of everything that is holy.
I don't care about trion charging 150$ to play an ''alpha''. But it's not the same thing at all, for SC you are pleding to help them make the game. Trion doesn't need your money to translate a hundred thousand words ... They are given a perfectly working game to do some minor tweak and translate.
I've read a lot of shit and troll posts from SC haters (we know where they are coming from)
I've no idea what the "we know where they are coming from" means but it seems ironic that you're complaining when you regularly wonder into Elite: Dangerous threads trying to bait people.
who cares and what does this title in particular have to do with it, this shouldn't even be on this site as it is not going to be an MMO, just a single player game with a COD type lobby multiplayer, but I also wonder why Witcher 3 as single player game is written about on this site so yeah! whatever man, whatever.
I like Battlestar Galactica and Vendetta Online it still will run when Star Ctizen comes out. And Eve won't lose a single player so they should send less haters complaining about buying ships. They had their own monocle debacle
new ship is awesome, going to work towards it in game
this thread, jealousy is an ugly thing.
So they have lots of money to make the best damn space sim of all times, why not just keep playing Eve instead of badmouthing SC, other companies so scared of losing their subscribers, not making enough money?
50 million budget appoaching :1)) this is going to be EPIC
Posts like this is what worries me... fanboys who see the budget and already think the game is going to be amazing.
Even if some of them have doubts, CIG just releases another ship for sale and they're all satisfied again
I've read a lot of shit and troll posts from SC haters (we know where they are coming from)
I said I did not spend more than 30$, I have my ship, I have my alpha, the rest has been said a million times is going to be easily acquired by normal gamplay like you got ships in Freelancer or Privateer. I know the full game is another 12 months away, as planned.
The "full game" is A LOT further away than 12 months.
They're aiming to give us an FPS glimpse this year.
As far as I understand, they're going to be releasing the gameplay in independent modules.
It'll be years before all these modules "interact" with each other to make a full mmo game.
That seems to be the case, but that seems to be what makes SC stand out and potentially be very successful for.
- Flying a ship and an assortment of ships
- Crewing a ship with a bunch of ppl
- There's FPS thing on ships and on planets with procedural generation of worlds
- the above modular to expand the size of the game world while boosting the simulation verisimilitude.
And Roberts has design to hook everything up via economy and permadeath and earning credits to cough up for damage/replacement and so on. A lot to like in one game space.
I've read a lot of shit and troll posts from SC haters (we know where they are coming from)
I've no idea what the "we know where they are coming from" means but it seems ironic that you're complaining when you regularly wonder into Elite: Dangerous threads trying to bait people.
who cares and what does this title in particular have to do with it, this shouldn't even be on this site as it is not going to be an MMO, just a single player game with a COD type lobby multiplayer, but I also wonder why Witcher 3 as single player game is written about on this site so yeah! whatever man, whatever.
I like Battlestar Galactica and Vendetta Online it still will run when Star Ctizen comes out. And Eve won't lose a single player so they should send less haters co plaining about buying ships. They had their own monocle debacle
Haha you just can't help yourself can you!? Breeaaathe let the anger out.
I've read a lot of shit and troll posts from SC haters (we know where they are coming from)
I've no idea what the "we know where they are coming from" means but it seems ironic that you're complaining when you regularly wonder into Elite: Dangerous threads trying to bait people.
who cares and what does this title in particular have to do with it, this shouldn't even be on this site as it is not going to be an MMO, just a single player game with a COD type lobby multiplayer, but I also wonder why Witcher 3 as single player game is written about on this site so yeah! whatever man, whatever.
I like Battlestar Galactica and Vendetta Online it still will run when Star Ctizen comes out. And Eve won't lose a single player so they should send less haters co plaining about buying ships. They had their own monocle debacle
Haha you just can't help yourself can you!? Breeaaathe let the anger out.
what anger, u hallucinating? move one please, Eve forum is over there ---> :-)
The more suckers that buy virtual ships, the better Star Citizen will be when it's released. Win for me.
Only thing is: What makes you think that any significant part of the money they are milking this for at this point is actually going towards maeking the game better, and not just making the producers and investors richer?
Yeah, they are self producing, but that does not mean there is no producer. And part of the original funding was through investors, so they do have those as well...
No money came from outside investors. They had some angel investors lined up to pay for whatever the initial crowd funding campaign left over (to reach the $21-$23 million needed). Once they found out they wouldn't need them, they weren't used.
Originally posted by hfztt What makes you think that any significant part of the money they are milking this for at this point is actually going towards maeking the game better, and not just making the producers and investors richer?
Yeah, they are self producing, but that does not mean there is no producer.
This doesn't even make sense... Let's assume you meant publishers and not producers. Well...there ARE NO PUBLISHERS. There is no one extra that needs to be paid. All money goes straight to CIG.
Not another ship for sale for the small sum of $150 , quick, quick, give them my money
ah wait a sec are you the guys who only needed 2 million to make the game and have over 40 million already
then why the hell are you still selling ships, make the god dam game and give the ships away free
your bordering on greed now
OP is right,...while I don't think it's a scam as Chris Roberts has proven himself already, it is pathetic whats being done. I think they are way in over their heads and they keep adding to it by doing things to get more money. It's way past time to just concentrate on their game...I think at this point the game is going to be a very sad face for people if it even launches.
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Stop making sense! The eternal cycle of drooling with anticipation and righteous anger a week into the release of new games must never be broken! Bad things could happen!
Imagine the poor developers having to labour their asses off in the deep mines of quality assurance and the quarrys of game design 101 just because people expect to see a finished and working product before delivering payment. When in all demons name would they find time to think out new features which they can promise in interviews and shiny videos? It is not important that these features will never see the light of implementation. - the good will and marketing are what counts!
On second thought. forget that. Care sharing that popcorn?
I don't think all is doomed even if it's not a masterpiece. Why would I expect a 50 million production to be so much better than the 250 million production we had recently ? I think it have potential to be a really awesome game, but even if it isn't, it won't be the end of everything that is holy.
I don't care about trion charging 150$ to play an ''alpha''. But it's not the same thing at all, for SC you are pleding to help them make the game. Trion doesn't need your money to translate a hundred thousand words ... They are given a perfectly working game to do some minor tweak and translate.
who cares and what does this title in particular have to do with it, this shouldn't even be on this site as it is not going to be an MMO, just a single player game with a COD type lobby multiplayer, but I also wonder why Witcher 3 as single player game is written about on this site so yeah! whatever man, whatever.
I like Battlestar Galactica and Vendetta Online it still will run when Star Ctizen comes out. And Eve won't lose a single player so they should send less haters complaining about buying ships. They had their own monocle debacle
That seems to be the case, but that seems to be what makes SC stand out and potentially be very successful for.
- Flying a ship and an assortment of ships
- Crewing a ship with a bunch of ppl
- There's FPS thing on ships and on planets with procedural generation of worlds
- the above modular to expand the size of the game world while boosting the simulation verisimilitude.
And Roberts has design to hook everything up via economy and permadeath and earning credits to cough up for damage/replacement and so on. A lot to like in one game space.
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
Haha you just can't help yourself can you!? Breeaaathe let the anger out.
what anger, u hallucinating? move one please, Eve forum is over there ---> :-)
nothing to see here
What are you on about EVE for? I don't play EVE.
Speculation does not a valid point make.
Time will tel if SC is good or not and until it is released everyone here is basically just swimming in a sea of speculation and theories.
No money came from outside investors. They had some angel investors lined up to pay for whatever the initial crowd funding campaign left over (to reach the $21-$23 million needed). Once they found out they wouldn't need them, they weren't used.
This doesn't even make sense... Let's assume you meant publishers and not producers. Well...there ARE NO PUBLISHERS. There is no one extra that needs to be paid. All money goes straight to CIG.
Not sure where you are getting you info from but 1,000 UEC costs $1. So 20,000 UEC cost $20, not $2.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/central-core-bank
OP is right,...while I don't think it's a scam as Chris Roberts has proven himself already, it is pathetic whats being done. I think they are way in over their heads and they keep adding to it by doing things to get more money. It's way past time to just concentrate on their game...I think at this point the game is going to be a very sad face for people if it even launches.
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