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I'm sensing this may be another Vanguard-type launch
I created a thread earlier regarding my inability to play. I spent some time trying to resolve the issue and I can't seem to do it. I've perused the Archeage beta forums and there are numerous pages full of people complaining of similar issues. I'm reading people have purchased one of the packs and still cannot launch or play the game.
I am trying to wrap my head around this, but I can't seem to find any sort of way of looking at this in a positive light.
I really hope (for their sake's) that they push the release back to fix this issue. If the game cannot even be launched by this many people (and it appears to be affected a lot of people), this could very well destroy the game's launch. Gamers have become accustomed to some fairly smooth launches in the past few years. Sure, there have been hiccups (servers full, being taken down during prime time, queues, etc). But not being able to launch the game? What's worst is it appears that they don't know what is causing the issue.
I know there are many who are not affected by this, but every person who is a potentially lost customer.
If I were Trion, I would hold off on any future public beta events until this issue is fixed. Bad word of mouth spreads like wildfire in the gaming community.
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I am 100% certain all the launcher woes are directly related to Hackshield. You do a search on that word and a number of games all come up with similar issues. So in essence, it's not the game that's not launching, it's Hackshield that is preventing it from launching.
I also seem to think it really wants an open and live internet connection when you launch the game. Every time the game launches, I actually have an Internet Explorer window open. If I only have Glyph open, it doesn't seem to want to launch.
The other issue is how incredibly long it takes to actually launch. Maybe it's the cinematic, I don't know, but the game seems to be loading an awful lot prior to even entering the server selection screen. Once past that, everything seems smooth as butter. But it's like go make a pot of coffee and come back before entering the game at the initial launch. In other words, there is no such thing as a quick reboot of the game... you're gonna wait each and every time.
I don't think so.
Vanguard had real issues.
Invisible or partly invisible opponents, missing textures, huge problems when crossing one area to another by "chunking", crashes, etc.
ArcheAge is probably pushing the limits of population to get it ready for launch and sure, it might be having issues with the hackshield but it doesn't have the same problems that Vanguard had.
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I think the vast majority of people aren't having a lot of trouble. Vanguards launch was plagued with all sorts of issues, including lag, memory leaks, choppy visuals (not lag related) crashes, etc... If AA has something similar, then I don't know what to say... game has been out over a year, so there shouldn't be many outside of server full, etc.
That's not to say folks aren't having trouble as clearly some are. I hope they do fix that stuff for you and the others, but Vanguard had a lot more issues than that!
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ArcheAge runs and works fine for the most part.
I bought Vanguard right when it came out and had a good PC and it ran like shiz.
Vanguard would of been the best game ever if the devs didn't fail at coding.
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It may not be the same or even compare to the Vanguard launch but there are people having trouble.
Since the game has been out in Korea for some time now it appears that the issue is one that is unique to the western/eu market. Hackshield could be the answer since I am pretty sure it is not used in Korea. Hopefully Trion is looking into this and will get it figured out before launch.
My big worry is back after Beta 1 I was told there are supposed to be more races, but with this being the 3rd closed beta and no hint of them what is going on? If there are more races then they need to get them out so they can be tested, being 3rd beta it would seem a late Sept or Oct launch would be about right but this is pushing it if they are missing a part of the game.
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I was there during Vanguard beta and launch.
Vanguard was unplayable for many reasons at launch. Whatever the reason, its just not good to have this kind of situation.
Right now, Archeage is unplayable by many. If they don't fix this prior to launch and just open the floodgates in its current state, I cannot help but think it will be a crushing blow to the game. I don't care how good the game may or may not be. If you can't even let a significant number of players in due to bugs, you have a major problem.
If the issue is Hackshield and hackshield alone, they better have something else in place or just drop it altogether.
The new races aren't even live in the Korean version. They'll likely come with an expansion. So don't hold your breath. Basically what you see now is what your going to get at launch.
I run a pretty bare system, so I don't believe so. I've also killed any lingering processes in attempts to isolate the cause, but no go.
The devs didn't fail. Brad McQuaid is why it failed. He has vision but he couldn't lead Denver's offense on a touchdown scoring drive if the opposing defense wasn't even on the field. In fact, they'd probably score a safety while asleep on the sideline.
Here's the deal OP, the problem is with your machine, something about it makes it incompatible with AA.
Sure, Trion should work to make it compatible on as many boxes as possible, but at the end of the day they might be better off letting the 3 to 5 percent whose machines are incompatible go on their way.
Heck, I recall when I first played DAOC, it was only certified to run on about 10 video cards. I had to go out and buy one of them to play the game.
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I think it's definitely a Hackshield integration or something. I can't find any log files of any sort being created at all by the client. How am I supposed to beta test or play this thing? There's nothing in the Event viewer, there's not even any sort of error message being thrown. Nothing. How do you even begin to isolate an issue when your testing pool is not providing any data to you?
To the OP. You are completely off-base on your opinion and or assumption. I have a low end system with Intel 2000 graphics, a decent broadband and the beta I am in runs fine! 23 gig DL though.
Once in the game it is straight up BAD_A$$! Have not had the fun I am having with this type game in a long time! Probably the best mixed sandbox/themepark I have seen in years. Of course I am playing a Kerran archer :-). When this goes live I expect it to be a BIG HIT! Beta for this game is going much better than Wildstar or ESO.
Game has a in-depth crafting system, skill system(Some multispec type rift classing).
Great quests, character customization, even the aesthetics are good!
The only issue I had was with my UI customization. Kept turning my num-lock off so the key 0 went to camera instead of jump. But thats my own error. I am sure those who have issues with connection probably have issues with all kinds of connectivity. Not just Archeage!
As far as Hackshield goes, it works fine as long as you are not trying to mess with it. I bet the majority of players having issues with it tried to do something to it.
the VG launch gives me dry-heaves to this day. you crossed a chunk (a plot of land in VG's "seamless" world) and either you lagged for 15 seconds or else you fell through the world. you opened a door and you switched to a view inside your toon's head where all that was visible were his or her eyeballs. you had mouse lag so you couldn't even craft.
In archeage, i have some lag in populated areas, and a queue sometimes to log on. that's all.
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Well OP, in all honesty you wouldn't have a clue how many people are affected by the issue YOU are experiencing. They may be reporting similar symptoms (can't launch game), but the root cause may be different in many of those cases.
How many seperate user names have you seen complaining on the official tech support forums ? Did you count 50 or a 100 ? Even if there are 500 (which I strongly doubt), that would be an insignificant number compared to the total number of players. Sure, you feel very frustrated and see "many others" who feel the same, but that happens at every new MMO launch on PC.
"Unplayable" and "unlaunchable" are not the same thing.
Vanguard had massive issues in the game itself. Not being able to launch the game was NOT Vanguard's major issue, the real problems there started once you were playing...
You go from many to a significant number, but it might be an insignificant percentage. It sucks when you belong to this group though, but it will probably not have an impact on the popularity of the game.
It takes one to know one.
Step1: Discredit the OP
Step2: Completely ignore the point of the OP and start praising the game
Step3: Accuse everyone having problems of being a cheater
Hmm yeah
I mean sure, when I first tried to start the game I got a popup from Trion telling me to delete a folder and then to manually try updating Hackshield.
But of course that can't be considered a hint that Hackshield is at fault and Trion knows about it, right?
I run AVG on my boxes, and on occasion it has interfered with the proper installation or operation of a new game.
Fortunately, it does allow me to temporally disable it, that has let me go forward on a few occasions with the install, and being a well known antivirus program means on a couple of occasions either the game company or AV provided a patch or work around.
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Step 1: Read into post what isn't there (he was pointing out his rig is inferior to most, Intel Graphics 2000 is like 2006 era CPU, FYI)
Step 2: Completely ignore the point of the post and start attacking him for no reason
Step 3: Slander him by saying he is calling everyone a cheater when he is, quite rightfully, pointing out that you can dick around with Hackshield unintentionally (having different games using it on your hard drive can cause this as they don't all use the same variant and as you no doubt know from using multiple antivirus programs on the same PC, they identify each other as viruses and basically murder each other, security programs can be quite trigger happy but of course Trion telling you to, potentially, delete a folder which may have existed prior to your AA install to avoid Hackshield issues can't be considered a hint that you are unable to part opinion from fact, right?).
I will ignore everything you said cause I don't mix well with pvp people, so only elaborate point 2 to me.
He started praising the game which had nothing and absolutely nothing to do with the issues of the OP.
So please tell me - what is the point of his post?
That, shockingly, he likes the game and it runs well on his ancient setup? More or less which is kinda stunning in and of itself to be honest for me ( I ran some diagnostics on my laptop that's half a decade removed from his rig, 2011, which also has a discrete GPU of decent make, 6650M, and the sites that allow you to benchmark your rig vs minimum/recommended requirements for the game came up with a "will run on medium settings" due to the dGPU not being adequate, that he can even run the game on something which would die trying to run Far Cry 1 on decent settings is just... massive, the devs must've covered a massive spectrum of possible hardware ).
Oh and I am not a PVPer or PVEer
. I am a gamer with a love of sandbox games and I don't cry to the devs if someone beats the shit out of me in-game unless it is an exploit (and I do check games for these before investing time into a game). Kindly adapt your language and your attitude to me or find someone who still has that "us vs them" mentality to ignore.