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God have mercy on me - An F2P Experience.
Edit: Do yourself a favor and have Limb Bizkit Youtube Playlist on or some other playlist when you are grinding.
Such a complete waste of time. If you want to play this game properly, even in beta, buy a founder's pack. I have lost count on how many "quests" I did and still level 19. It is so bad, I am going to skip the betas because I am already burned. 99.9% of my guild members are founders and the exp gain (using LP for exp since there have no issue with LP regen) + boost is ridiculous. Within 2-3 days they have reached max level. Even others that were 9 levels before me surpassed me so easily it was so irritating to watch.
On top of that 99.9% will SKIP (not read content and spam F) story/side quests because that is what the game is and everybody will powerlevel to death. By the time you reach 50, it should take you 2 weeks-1 month as a hardcore with a founder. As a casual, send me a letter when you do.
LP regain? Do not even ask. You might as well go and hang yourself and do yourself a favor.
You want an LFG tool for server? "Go back to WoW scrub". There are still so many basic stuff missing; i.e linking items when the character screen is open (you must unequip and then link)
And with the current status quo, this is a straight out P2W farmville shitfest. To give you an idea; Most major guilds will have crafters that will have founder's packs + buying LP pots from cash shop on the daily basis.
The P2W_NOT advocates should at least do us a favor and offer an apology. Going back to the game now to level up due to guild orders.
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When a game failed to do well in its own home country one should be aware. I am not even surprised really. Western audience are even harder to please than their Asian counterparts.
I've no clue what you are talking about; lvling in this game is extremely fast. Everything you do in the game gives xp, like gw2. Infact this game is second to gw2 in regards to lvling speed. Grinding mobs? Your friends are doing it wrong. Fastest way to lvl are quests. Then there is mining, but only if you have labor points. Skip main quest? Again very wrong as you are missing on 65 gilda stars which are essentials to buy the house plan and the boat, aswell as give tons of XP for little tasks. Most quests are about little tasks, i skip all kill X guys quests as they bore me to death. The xp gain for patron is just 10%+ xp from MOB kills. Which is barely noticeable.
I played as f2p in russia and lvling was just as fast as it is with patron, by doing quests. I think you chose the wrong guild or they trolled you with false information.
Takes about 3 days to get to 50; if you rush everything and go nolife ofc.
really??
ok i am sorry these hlaf truth or total false info posts have finally got to me.
1. patron only gains 10% xp boost
1-30 is a theme park yes, i takes 10 hrs as a patron and 15hr as a free player to get to that point.
30 to 50 is pvp OWpvp
1-50 as patron takes 22 hrs stright no farming or anything like that.
the way to power level in game now will not be around in live at start due to the fact we have the lvl 55 KR patch at the moment and trion has already stated this will not be here at live.
so no fire>bubble>drop dmg killing lvl 55 double star elites for 10k xp a kill. (you would start this grind a lvl 44, but there is only 5 spawns so not everyone can do it since its a pvp zone.)
the F2P part is a tad rough for the beta testers for the large fact that APEX (the RL$ items that allow you to buy things in market place as well as game time) are not available to be traded and sold in game at the moment. this is NOT how it will be launched , the APEX (those blue crystals in the market) will be tradeable in game like a currency for in game gold or services rendered like click fees for crafting or safe travels. so a F2P player would never have to spend a DIME of rl$ if they had in game gold to buy apex and use it to get patron status. how do you make gold?? well all armor even lvl 1 armor can be broken down to components that as of right now sell for 6 to 50 gold a piece. for a ref. top teir crafter armor sells for 2.5k
so at lvl 1-30 you can easily have over 1k gold if you DO NOT vendor everything and insted break it down.
right now in the alpha the exchange rate is this.. 1USD$=145 APEX=2gold
now as for the $150 founders
-we get $75 of store credits
-a free $15 gilder(cost in market place is $15)
-3 months of patron status($45, cost of same status monthly through rift)
-a daru chest (these are only avail thru loyalty tokens so no value listed BUT they normal drop a crystal that sells on a bad day for 24 gold so value can be seen as $12)
-crest brainstorm ($5)##adds custom image to a stamp in game that you can use on ships cloaks paintings shirts heads##
add all of this up it is $152 of value
even if you take away the daru chest that only has intrinsic value and not listed, its $140 value. so all of us with founders paid $12 to play a game early.. thats a good deal to me to play a AAA game that if made by a western company would have cost $60 plus a $15 a mo sub. where i lose everything if i do not pay my sub anymore
Quests in this game feel so out of place, like they didn't belong to this game at all or were added later on.
The best part of AA is crafting, farming, house building, seafaring, etc.. Why even have these stupid quests, that make this game feel like a cheap eastern themepark quest grinder?
I run from village to village, from quest hub to quest hub, make a few quests here and there that makes me kill 3-5 mobs, and get rewarded with a complete set of green gear and enough exp to level up by doing nothing else but quests.
Why does this game have all those awesome features, if the designers want us to go fast forward from 1 to 50?
At least the exp curve should have been much steeper, so you would have time to craft your gear and farm your food before you outlevel everything.
And yes, i know i dont' have to do quests if i don't want to, but if that's the most efficient way it would be stupid not to use it.
Never have I been more bored in any mmorpg. I made it to 19 and I can't take this railroaded mindless questhub themepark stuff anymore - And in Archeage that part is more generic and uninteresting than ever before. Sandbox hah, maybe there is an interesting crafting system hidden somewhere, but the quest system is the purest dull themepark. Maybe there is some interesting group and "class" mechanic at later levels? I tried starting out as some kind of healer/support thing and a friend as melee, but that was pointless atleast until lvl 15 where I turned mage-ish and we parted to grind quests alone.
I played wow and I am done with it, so I really dont need another questhubber and especially not one so poorly made. Click ! Turn around, pick up poo, turn in, get next quest.. No challenge, no exloring, no reasons, no adventure, nothing to trigger imagination, just plain soul less. Am I beeing too harsh? Maybe but holy.. I am bored.
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I meant skip (re-edit) in the sense of not reading Story/Quests and "exp gain" using other means to level up. Just wasted resources to spam F button.
I am playing EU and that is how it is in EU.
Yeah afaik most people don't read quests. I never did it in other games too. Still even if they use other means quesing is the fastest way to lvl up, and it's not slow compared to most games. Only in gw2 i lvled faster then AA
Such drama for such a good subscription mmo.
Have fun in your next free to play mmo dude o/
You don't get burned out from any monetary system,it is because it is just another linear questing game.Sure ANY game can claim they have this and that as well but you still predominantly play it as a linear questing SOLO game to boot.
People are crafting to level it makes no difference,then you are just treating a GAME all abotu ONLY gaining levels and trying to choose the fastest way to gain a level number.
a RPG should be a heck of a lot more than a level number and following markers around and most certainly a MMO should NOT be soloing.
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AHH - It is a F2P game with a sub as extra. The problem is, the F2P game is not worth playing and if you just get a few more things by subbing, then this game is worthless. This is a good game? Since when? It is basically failing in Korea and China, where it has been out 1.5 yrs.
This game will be a mega-guild game. Anyone playing without a guild will be wiped out. I played in CB2 and got up to lvl 21 and was bored to tears. Lots of bling, certainly, but bling doesn't make the game play well. If you play melee, you look so far away from the mobs, it looks like you aren't hitting them (and you are not). The animations are very basic, there is not much difference between daggers and swords. In CB2 there were whole guilds that were max lvl (they paid the piper) and were constantly battling.
The LP is the biggest fiasco. People who aren't complaining about it, spent a wad of cash so they won't. This is why this game is a P2W game. The more you pay the more you win. Being a F2P customer, you can't own a farm or land, currently. A fishing license in the game is 100 gold. Cheap armor costs about that much too. Your best bet is to craft your own, but guess what - as a F2P player you will not be able to - as it takes 600 LP to craft the 6 pieces and that doesn't include mining, farming, etc.
This game is more about the players as a cash cow for Trion, than actually the players experience. I was looking forward to this game but am totally disillusioned by it.
People who are playing it - have fun throwing money down the rat hole.
But then two things happened, first, I got to level 30 and the game seemed to open up more now that I had finished the mainline story.
But 2nd, and far more importantly, I hooked up with my large, multi gaming guild and it totally changed my experience.
Now I was taking part in trade runs to set up our farms in the northern continent. They helped me complete the trade runs necessary to get my medium level farm.
We sailed the high seas in our fleet of galleons looking for pirates to fight, we rose to the call of arms to help other members who were getting ganked across the land.
There were weekly guild trade runs where 35 or 40 of us would turn in trade packs, but give all the proceeds to one lucky lotto winner.
So this is definitely a game where your gaming experience will be enhanced by having a strong guild at your back.
In fact, if you are a person who refuses to be part of a well organized guild, you should probably skip this game.
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Player experience for F2P players is always more grindy than P2P players. Its a known fact, and industry standart. Does not makes the game P2W. By definition, P2W game is a game where you can buy something from the cash shop that will give you an advantage over another player in combat, and is not acquirable by any means other than cash shop. For instance, World of Tanks used to be pay2win, not because premium players would grind faster, but because they were selling "gold ammo" which had higher chance of penetrating tank's armor, and could only be bought for cash currency.
It will take you more time to lvl if you are F2P player. Not my much, but still. Does not make a game P2W by any stretch.
It does. Doubling the amount of LP AND also giving you LP when you are not logged in (at the same rate that F2P players get) Is P2W - period. It is hard to craft as a F2P player - I mean a boat would take WEEKS to build. I can see some increase for the subscriber/Founders but not more than double.
I can see you like the game - enjoy it but please look at it objectively. Not everyone want to pay 150 + a sub for this game. It has been touted as a F2P game, well then don't hobble the F2P players so much.
Yeah good one. I am in the most hardcore PVP Guild in EU and I am going to buy archeum cheap as fuck and you are telling me I am a freeloader.
L2R.
Short version, F2P gtfo if you ain't going to be a sub for a long period of time or die grinding.
I agree. The game should definitely encourage and reward crafting more in early levels. The trade pack system seems way more interesting than quests but not nearly as rewarding xp wise from what I can gather. Makes it feel like a themepark game even though I'm aware that isn't totally accurate.
Yep without a guild I would have quited a long time ago. Being in a guild is a must. Whether you are antisocial or whatever.
So basically you just admitted this was purely a troll thread.
Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!
I did what?
The only legit reason for a Founder's pack is to get LP pots for headstart in launch. Launch is going to be competitive as fuck. Who gets what first, ect.
Every thread he posts is a troll thread.
When a game is FTP always assume that it mean free to try , pay to play ! You want a good experience you must pay unless you play a low budget 2D browser game.
Archeage is still a bargain if you compare with ESO, Wildstar because you don't have to pay the box price and I like archeage more so for me Archeage deserve a sub and I don't mind to pay for something I enjoy
ROFL... subbing to a game is not P2W. You have complained about this game continuously. It's obviously not the game for you and you obviously have not spent a cent on the game so in the words of the immortal Adele Dazim " LET IT GO.... LET IT GO....."
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