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WildStar: Key Attunement Changes Ease Raid Play

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
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WildStar players have long voiced concern over the difficult task to enter Veteran raids. In a new update, the WildStar team has detailed changes to the attunement system and announced that the requirement for Veteran raids has been lowered to bronze.

Genesis Key Attunement


  • The Silver Screening is no more. Make way for The Bronze Age!

  • The dungeon medal requirement for raid attunement has been lowered from silver to bronze.

  • Achievements will now be used for backup in case progress is missed or lost on the veteran dungeons.

  • Reduced the amount of Primal Patterns required for the Datascape Attunement; this has been adjusted to 100, from 300. 

  • The ‘Monster Hunter’ Attunement step has been updated. This quest will now track when you kill one of these creatures or if you already have the achievement for defeating them. Note that this quest checks a possible 18 targets and advances when you have defeated 12 of the 18 creatures.

Read the full changes on the WildStar forum.

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  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,039
    I would say this is a smart move by Carbine.  
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  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Waiting for the "pros" or the ones who think themselves as skilled and "pro" to start bitching about Carbine dumbing the game down. 
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Waiting for the "pros" or the ones who think themselves as skilled and "pro" to start bitching about Carbine dumbing the game down. 

    They'll be along soon enough.

    And I suspect it won't be the only incoming "nerf" either.

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  • FusionFusion Member UncommonPosts: 1,398
    Hardcore claims crumbling under the cries of casuals = respect gone entirely. (you don't make games hardcore by making attunements hardcore, you make the raids hardcore)
    http://neocron-game.com/ - now totally F2P no cash-shops or micro transactions at all.
  • VassagoMaelVassagoMael Member Posts: 555
    As a progression raider, I really don't care one way or the other about the attunement changes.

    Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
    Subscription = Actual content updates!

  • PioneerStewPioneerStew Member Posts: 874
    Originally posted by Fusion
    Hardcore claims crumbling under the cries of casuals = respect gone entirely. (you don't make games hardcore by making attunements hardcore, you make the raids hardcore)

    I would say it was crumbling under the realisation that the hardcore crowd is much smaller than previously thought, and no-one likes mindless time sinks.  

  • nbtscannbtscan Member UncommonPosts: 862
    This is what happens when Ncsoft isn't making enough money.  The writing was on the wall with Gaffney's exit from the company.
  • KaladinKaladin Member Posts: 468
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Waiting for the "pros" or the ones who think themselves as skilled and "pro" to start bitching about Carbine dumbing the game down. 

    I don't think you will see much of that.  This has been received positively by pretty much everyone that plays.  In fact the world first guilds were also complaining about it, most notably the 300 Primal Pattern requirement for Datascape (which was just an absurd amount).  And the entry to the 20 man doesn't affect the "pros" anyway.  Heck, they'll have a bigger pool of players to recruit from.

    Really, the only change to the actual gameplay is that you don't have to rush through trash as fast as possible.

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    And I have the voice of a thousand hurricanes.
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    It just might be too little too late before the business model changes though, but we'll see. Edit: I think with a few more changes and a good 50% sell like TESO had for a bit, also some Steam backing, the game could recover.
  • KaladinKaladin Member Posts: 468
    Originally posted by nbtscan
    This is what happens when Ncsoft isn't making enough money.  The writing was on the wall with Gaffney's exit from the company.

    Yeah, if he couldn't handle being the president of a company while dealing with cancer, he's just a pansy.  /endsarcasm

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  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048
    Originally posted by PioneerStew
    Originally posted by Fusion
    Hardcore claims crumbling under the cries of casuals = respect gone entirely. (you don't make games hardcore by making attunements hardcore, you make the raids hardcore)

    I would say it was crumbling under the realisation that the hardcore crowd is much smaller than previously thought, and no-one likes mindless time sinks.  

    I would say it crumbled under the fact that tediusness =/= hardcore. The quest was made so tedius more then anything. Dungeon attunement was the only part that really stuck out as being difficult, and honestly having it time based to such a strict degree isn't exactly a great way to judge players. Speed runs to me have never been a good method of judging stuff. Attempts would of functioned far better IMO and leave timed perhaps for just gold (despite disliking time runs). 

  • nbtscannbtscan Member UncommonPosts: 862
    Originally posted by Kaladin
    Originally posted by nbtscan
    This is what happens when Ncsoft isn't making enough money.  The writing was on the wall with Gaffney's exit from the company.

    Yeah, if he couldn't handle being the president of a company while dealing with cancer, he's just a pansy.  /endsarcasm

    I know someone that had Stage 4 cancer and didn't get diagnosed until 9 months after they got it because they were so focused on their work.  They got treated and went back to work.  Your point is...?

  • orbitxoorbitxo Member RarePosts: 1,956

    TSW has the best attunement ever! meet the gate keeper!

    nough said!

     

    on a sidenote i welcome these changes, for attunetment.

  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,619
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Waiting for the "pros" or the ones who think themselves as skilled and "pro" to start bitching about Carbine dumbing the game down. 

    Haha, I would like to hear from the people that claimed carbine had "principles" and would stick to them regardless of what the casual masses thought!

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  • KaladinKaladin Member Posts: 468
    Originally posted by nbtscan
    Originally posted by Kaladin
    Originally posted by nbtscan
    This is what happens when Ncsoft isn't making enough money.  The writing was on the wall with Gaffney's exit from the company.

    Yeah, if he couldn't handle being the president of a company while dealing with cancer, he's just a pansy.  /endsarcasm

    I know someone that had Stage 4 cancer and didn't get diagnosed until 9 months after they got it because they were so focused on their work.  They got treated and went back to work.  Your point is...?

    I believe my point spoke for itself.  Is your point that dealing with cancer is not a good excuse for leaving work?

    I can fly higher than an aeroplane.
    And I have the voice of a thousand hurricanes.
    Hurt - Wars

  • KaladinKaladin Member Posts: 468

    Oh well, at any rate, they haven't made the game any easier.  So any claims of "catering to casuals" or "they're trying to bring more people into the game" are just incorrect.  Unless a race through (or around) trash packs in a certain amount of time is considered difficult.

    As others have said, less tedious, no easier.

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    And I have the voice of a thousand hurricanes.
    Hurt - Wars

  • DaessarDaessar Member Posts: 204
    I don't know if I missed something or if it's just word play, but the original post talking about "Veteran" raids, makes it sound like there are "non-veteran" raids. I guess you could point to the public event ones, but those are open world and would seem not related to this story.
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Originally posted by Kaladin
    Originally posted by nbtscan
    Originally posted by Kaladin
    Originally posted by nbtscan
    This is what happens when Ncsoft isn't making enough money.  The writing was on the wall with Gaffney's exit from the company.

    Yeah, if he couldn't handle being the president of a company while dealing with cancer, he's just a pansy.  /endsarcasm

    I know someone that had Stage 4 cancer and didn't get diagnosed until 9 months after they got it because they were so focused on their work.  They got treated and went back to work.  Your point is...?

    I believe my point spoke for itself.  Is your point that dealing with cancer is not a good excuse for leaving work?

    It's gotta suck for the guy.

    Unless he made any other games this one's pretty much his life's work.

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  • V_i_OV_i_O Member UncommonPosts: 55
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Waiting for the "pros" or the ones who think themselves as skilled and "pro" to start bitching about Carbine dumbing the game down. 

    seems that you have missed my reply on the thread of omni core 1 - wildstar (just the previous of that) check it and see how much you lack the concept of pros vs gear grinding, we "PROS"actually don't whine on such things , less tedious but same raiding difficulty actually this might be an advantage for us= "a bigger pool of players to raid with us MAYBE O.O" ???!!!

  • ButeoRegalisButeoRegalis Member UncommonPosts: 594
    Originally posted by Azaron_Nightblade
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Waiting for the "pros" or the ones who think themselves as skilled and "pro" to start bitching about Carbine dumbing the game down. 

    They'll be along soon enough.

    Yep, like right here:

    And I suspect it won't be the only incoming "nerf" either.

    Reattach yourself to the handle, bro. Carbine didn't actually nerf any content.

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  • furbansfurbans Member UncommonPosts: 968
    Originally posted by Kaladin
    Originally posted by nbtscan
    This is what happens when Ncsoft isn't making enough money.  The writing was on the wall with Gaffney's exit from the company.

    Yeah, if he couldn't handle being the president of a company while dealing with cancer, he's just a pansy.  /endsarcasm

    And that's a BS excuse.  If you were diagnosed with terminal cancer you sure as hell ain't going to forgo treatment for work.  As many claim, that's just a scapegoat excuse for leaving and many don't buy it.  Cancer is a horrid thing for anyone to go through, but don't hid behind that when your actions prior make you a hypocrite.

     

    WS , their "WoW but better", massively underperformed expectations as they were severely out of touch with the reality of the market.  Not much longer we'll be hearing layoffs I wager but people going to write it off as the "process" of new MMOs.

  • furbansfurbans Member UncommonPosts: 968
    Originally posted by ButeoRegalis
    Originally posted by Azaron_Nightblade
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Waiting for the "pros" or the ones who think themselves as skilled and "pro" to start bitching about Carbine dumbing the game down. 

    They'll be along soon enough.

    Yep, like right here:

    And I suspect it won't be the only incoming "nerf" either.

    Reattach yourself to the handle, bro. Carbine didn't actually nerf any content.

     

    Give it some time, don't think for a second if NCSoft feels more revenue will be generated that they won't make Carbine do it.  Already they are facing severe server population issues, lowering the bar is the next step and it will come in time.  Fact is the "harcore" gamers they made WS for are by far way too few to support the game.  Blizzard found this out over a decade ago, "harcores" don't even closely fit the bill, its the avg casual gamer.  Make content suitable for the "hardcore" sure, but don't make the entire MMO for em if you want a reasonable success for your game.

     
  • meonthissitemeonthissite Member UncommonPosts: 917
    That's great and all but their central problem is the same problem exprienced by all mmo's recently. Listening to the 1% and designing their game around such a tiny clique of the populous.
  • HellidolHellidol Member UncommonPosts: 476
    Originally posted by PioneerStew
    Originally posted by Fusion
    Hardcore claims crumbling under the cries of casuals = respect gone entirely. (you don't make games hardcore by making attunements hardcore, you make the raids hardcore)

    I would say it was crumbling under the realisation that the hardcore crowd is much smaller than previously thought, and no-one likes mindless time sinks.  

    I would have to agree with this, I liked the game but man, if you have a job forget about raiding.

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  • DeeterDeeter Member UncommonPosts: 135
    This game is a joke. The only way to save it is to go F2P already
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