was playable during alpha, which went on for multiple months(4 months of something?haven't played the game nor interested in trying)
+ month of patron status and few credits(worth $20)
doesn't look half bad, does it?
You got access to alpha if you dumped 150$, not with the 100$ or 50$ packs. Still doesn't look half bad? especially since your patron time is already ticking away when you cant even play lol....Money well spent.
oh sorry my mistake, just took a quick glance at the benefits of each pack
have troubles on launch/headstart does not make a game 'unfinished', people know what they where paying for (closed/open beta)
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Hardly a "catastrophe" . Just the kind of thing I expect to see on any launch day of any mmo . Some people really do like to make something out of nothing .
I know the OP for whatever reason would love to see this game fail but its just not going to happen because its a quality mmo .
Hardly a "catastrophe" . Just the kind of thing I expect to see on any launch day of any mmo . Some people really do like to make something out of nothing .
I know the OP for whatever reason would love to see this game fail but its just not going to happen because its a quality mmo .
I'm not sure why you would think the OP would want the game to fail just for posting a link to a pretty good video. I learned a lot from what she had to say. I quickly scanned the OPs history and it seems that he is fairly supportive of the game. You have to agree that most everyone that is hating on the game right now are those that paid $150 for it, and they would hardly want it to fail. The rest like me are waiting until tomorrow and information like what he posted is very helpful.
Without threads like this I wouldn't have known that since sometime yesterday after the DDoS things are running much better.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
we told you guys again and again not to play this game, for a simple reason.
it failed and crashed in TWO different regions already, now they sold it (with a "BUY OUR BETA!" programm) AGAIN....
and you wonder all this happens again?
well, maybe don't flame us next time, but listen
juuuust an idea
Who are "we" ? Are you speaking for everyone again . Such self importance .
Can you link proof its failed in the two regions you mentioned or is that just you thinking its true just because you say it is .
You must really think the world revolves around you .
He's not really wrong, we could mean one other person and i have seen quite a few people echoing the same words. So he it right in away. And about the two regions, from what i've read K-version is been dominated by high end guilds to the point of preventing people progressing, Also there support is horrid and i don't mean, they didn't answer my ticket.
People who think this is a quality MMO must remember TRION is just the publisher. They really don't have to do anything with the basic game, just the servers, and of course, Glyph. If it was such a quality MMO it wouldn't be doing bad in it's country of origin, Korea, and it is. This is the issue. The game has been out in Korea for 2 yrs and it is in a slow decline.
Not wishing the game bad at all but let's interject some reality into this discussion. Trion has screwed up Rift, and every other game they have touched. This is a 100% batting record. Why would this launch be any different. It is how they run games.
This game will end up being like Eve, where only big nasty guilds will be playing the game and everyone else will leave.
I played this game until lvl 25 in beta and felt it was mediocre at best. people waiting in line to do a quest? Couldn't they have the same system like GW2, If you tag and do a certain amount of damage, you get credit? I felt the on rails aspect of the tutorial was totally out of place and actually made the game look and feel bad. Then there was the LP system and as a F2P player, means that you are like a one legged man in a butt-kicking contest - it makes it very hard for you to do anything.
I feel that paying 150 USD for an untested, (ANY PRODUCT) is reckless but this game already has a track record and all you need do is look at it's performance in those areas to see how this game will end up. The old saying past performance is a record of possible future performance, if things don't change. Trion seems to have very little influence with XL Games - so just look at how they are doing elsewhere for what is up coming.
we told you guys again and again not to play this game, for a simple reason.
it failed and crashed in TWO different regions already, now they sold it (with a "BUY OUR BETA!" programm) AGAIN....
and you wonder all this happens again?
well, maybe don't flame us next time, but listen
juuuust an idea
Who are "we" ? Are you speaking for everyone again . Such self importance .
Can you link proof its failed in the two regions you mentioned or is that just you thinking its true just because you say it is .
You must really think the world revolves around you .
He's not really wrong, we could mean one other person and i have seen quite a few people echoing the same words. So he it right in away. And about the two regions, from what i've read K-version is been dominated by high end guilds to the point of preventing people progressing, Also there support is horrid and i don't mean, they didn't answer my ticket.
Biased GMs that would ban people for PKing reds,
Not restoring hacked accounts,
Not controlling gold sellers at all,
Ignoring bugs
Ru-version, not so informed on
Whenever I see a post in response to the "we" comment where someone is telling someone else not to speak for other people, It's usually just someone's way of attempting to silence or discredit an opinion they don't like.
Thane was not the 1st to express his particular opinion on AA, nor was he the last. It's a simple case to do a forum search and you will find different posters expressing this. So Thane isn't wrong for saying "we"
However, I also think it's quite hypocritical to use this approach, since there are others who expressed that opinion. The posters who say "don't speak for others" are in fact, themselves, speaking for those who agree with Thane.
I know there are a lot of white knights for this game but seriously this game h as been pathetic since headtsart happened.
Now one could blame Glyph I suppose. But that is kind of too easy but Trion still chose to use it so it still makes it their fault.
One could blame DDOS attacks, but one would be stupid because who would waste time attacking something that is failing on its own?
There hasnt been a single fix to this game since I started in April. DX 11 still has the massive memory leak, pvp flagging is still stupid, crafting is still broken (no one realizes that yet because they havent been able to play enough to see it), labor points system is worse than ever, store bought chests giving gilda stars is a failure (especially after limiting the ways to get gilda in the game), still random CTDC for a half dozen reasons/errors that have existed since day one. People not getting their rewards, people getting too many rewards, jacked up quests. The list goes on and on and on.
This head start has been nothing but a failure. Alpha was great, especially the first couple months before they made the first set of game killing changes. But this release version is barely the same game as the original alpha build most people played in April and May. Changes were obvious but not to the extent they have been made. Hell even the version in August was light years better than this version.
But basing success or failure on subjectives isnt necessary. performance and stability of this game have been an F no doubt about it. When you could get into the game it has been freezes and lag and random crashes for who knows what. I did stay in game yesterday for about 3 hours before I crashed out, but when that is considered a positive you know things are horrible.
This would all be bad if this game were right off the test room shelf. But considering its been released in two other areas for almost two years now and has been here for over 6 months makes whats going on now all that much worse. If they dont get it together before the end of next week it might actually replace Vanguard as the worst launch in history.
Oh and I forgot another problem, the cash shop had every ones accounts zeroed out since last night with several supposed fixes but this morning (before servers wen down yet again) everyone was still sitting on no credits.
Originally posted by rodarin Oh and I forgot another problem, the cash shop had every ones accounts zeroed out since last night with several supposed fixes but this morning (before servers wen down yet again) everyone was still sitting on no credits.
meh, this is like any other new release in NA/EU or wherever. The release's have all sucked except for a few, the bugs are worked out, people leave withing 3 months, and a niche of hard core followers enjoy the game.
It's great to live in the moment, but look ahead a little and things will be better. Heck, look at SWToR if you need any kind of positive motivation for a game.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 It's kind of funny, I haven't had any of the issues describe beyond the DDOS attacks Saturday evening. I suppose I can say I'm extremely lucky.
Because this is what folks who actualy play the game experience.
The posters that are spreading misinformation don't even play - their agenda is a baseles smear campaign.
I mean having valid complaints - hell yes - I'm 100% behind this.
But making crap up because of some personal beef with Trion - and not having anything to back it up - weak sauce
But how does that work? the video clearly shows a person who plays the game and also has a founders pack. How can it be misinformation or someone who doesn't play? Also the Archage official forums are talking about the same thing.
Don't get my intentions wrong, just find it weird your saying they're spreading misinformation when most of the information being released is by players who have paid and played the game
meh, this is like any other new release in NA/EU or wherever. The release's have all sucked except for a few, the bugs are worked out, people leave withing 3 months, and a niche of hard core followers enjoy the game.
It's great to live in the moment, but look ahead a little and things will be better. Heck, look at SWToR if you need any kind of positive motivation for a game.
I have played all of about 7 hours of SWOTOR, no interest in it.
I wouldnt give AA nearly the grief if it wasnt for them cash grabbing the 150 up front on a product that doesnt even resemble what they released, either in content or performance.
Its a free to play game obviously it isnt going to be top notch. But it was surely better on all fronts 4 months ago than it is today.
So while you can claim look to the future, when a game was better on 99% of everything it offered in the past than it is today then how can the future be bright? Any changes they make will probably not get it to where it was 4 or 5 months ago and those changes will undoubtedly bring more problems with them as well.
The game in alpha was fine, just a few tweaks on some numbers was all they needed, yet they made whole sale changes to just about everything. THATS why it was rushed out the door because people pissed and moaned on the last set of big changes they made they wanted to make sure people didnt have time to freak out over these.
Thats is one of the saving graces of the performance issues it hasnt given people time to complain about the changes. Its akin to complaining about the color of your house while its burning to the ground.
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 It's kind of funny, I haven't had any of the issues describe beyond the DDOS attacks Saturday evening. I suppose I can say I'm extremely lucky.
Because this is what folks who actualy play the game experience.
The posters that are spreading misinformation don't even play - their agenda is a baseles smear campaign.
I mean having valid complaints - hell yes - I'm 100% behind this.
But making crap up because of some personal beef with Trion - and not having anything to back it up - weak sauce
But how does that work? the video clearly shows a person who plays the game and also has a founders pack. How can it be misinformation or someone who doesn't play? Also the Archage official forums are talking about the same thing.
Don't get my intentions wrong, just find it weird your saying they're spreading misinformation when most of the information being released is by players who have paid and played the game
I found some good information from the video, but as you can see it is a couple days old now. If you go to the official forums most of the posts that were revolving around login problems and queue times are dwindling. There are smaller problems cropping up in the discussions but they are "normal" release problems. A lot of the newer discussions are starting to become common posts you would see on any other official forum like what race to play, and I saw one on how to avoid the queue.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
meh, this is like any other new release in NA/EU or wherever. The release's have all sucked except for a few, the bugs are worked out, people leave withing 3 months, and a niche of hard core followers enjoy the game.
It's great to live in the moment, but look ahead a little and things will be better. Heck, look at SWToR if you need any kind of positive motivation for a game.
I have played all of about 7 hours of SWOTOR, no interest in it.
I wouldnt give AA nearly the grief if it wasnt for them cash grabbing the 150 up front on a product that doesnt even resemble what they released, either in content or performance.
Its a free to play game obviously it isnt going to be top notch. But it was surely better on all fronts 4 months ago than it is today.
So while you can claim look to the future, when a game was better on 99% of everything it offered in the past than it is today then how can the future be bright? Any changes they make will probably not get it to where it was 4 or 5 months ago and those changes will undoubtedly bring more problems with them as well.
The game in alpha was fine, just a few tweaks on some numbers was all they needed, yet they made whole sale changes to just about everything. THATS why it was rushed out the door because people pissed and moaned on the last set of big changes they made they wanted to make sure people didnt have time to freak out over these.
Thats is one of the saving graces of the performance issues it hasnt given people time to complain about the changes. Its akin to complaining about the color of your house while its burning to the ground.
Well my point about SWToR was that it was a dismal failure to most people for quite some time, it is now a highly successful game. If that game can make it just about any of them can.
As far as the $150 goes, that was up to those folks with the money to have decided, not Trion. People that play games have the brains enough to make their own decisions. IMHO if any of them saw previous releases of other titles they understood the risk of this happening. Its not a good thing, but its the normal thing now.
I can't comment on the performance issues because I have only played about an hour in beta. However, like most companies, when there is a problem it gets fixed asap. Everyone loves money and they know they won't get it if their product isn't running at peak performance. All these things will take time, but will be fixed.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by jonesing22 EEEEEEEExactly. Glyph is trash but Tron worlds is not fixing it. I haven't been able to log in to glyph for almost 2 months now. I guess they don't plan to fix it.
Have you tried reinstalling it?
Change your thoughts and you change your world. -
Norman Vincent Peale
From my perspective, it was an increadible smooth launch. I got in when servers went live, played for about 16 hours straight without a single problem. Then servers went down etc, but I have been able to play pretty much when I wanted to. Apart from now though, when I get the intro looped over and over
Originally posted by Shodanas
@ 5:15 players are waiting in line in order to complete a quest ??
This cracked me up.
Haha me too xD Must say that if this worked out, credits to all those players xD On my server, everyone partied up to do those. Sometimes I just passed and it did not take long before I was ahead.
yeah that screenshot is comedy gold
the cool thing about sandbox all the crap of real life can happen to you in a game, yay! Waiting in line for an hour!
I almost shelled out 150 bucks to get the elite founders. If you gonna be a founder do it all the way right? Then I thought better of it. Not because it is 150 bucks and I liked the game, but I knew the early access would be a total mess. It always is. Now in ESO there is actual advantage even if (and they did) screw up the early launch because it is one server. With AA there is no real advantage since new servers will be opened up at normal launch. Then that got me to thinking; every mmo is such a mess for the first couple of months. After the initial crash and broken quest bugs are fixed (mostly) you get the balance and exploit issues. The long term issues that take months and months to fix, the design flaws. An example would be the Stamina builds on ESO. Thinking about all the other MMO games I played I realized I am just tired of it. I like MMOs but I have gone through too many "extended paid betas" that I don't want to deal with it anymore. Nice to see I finally made a wise decision.
I think everyone who has played an MMO before knows in their brain that it is going to be a hot mess at the start, but they hope this will be the one that is not a hot mess. Kind of like hoping the cubs will win the world series and realizing after a month into the season it is not going to happen. I am not sure why we have these foolish hopes, but we do and when that hope is shattered there is an awful lot of angry people.
Can you all imagine the troll infested spam rage that will be the forums when the FTP folks come in Tuesday? That should be high comedy.
Originally posted by PhryOMG.did anyone see this coming, i mean, Trion did a pretty good job with the launch of Rift, how the heck they managed to mess up so badly with Archeage i have no idea, as of now, Archeage is probably a strong contender for the worst launch of the year, seriously, Zenimax must be laughing with relief, somebody else actually managed to screw up worse than they did, i watched that youtube vid and it was a real WTF moment. Trion, with all the issues with the cash shop and the labour potions etc. now is really not the time to dig a deeper hole!
I doubt that anyone who was there when Rift launched could have imagined that it would have played out like this. Having been been there when Rift launched, there are some similiarities. Initially there were the same horrific cues and lack of servers as is happening with AA. After much bitching and moaning on the forums Trion opened up a tremendous amount of servers. Many people got so pissed off they just gave up and didn't return. Trion over reacted and opened way too many servers. Some time not long after the traffic died down and they ended up merging servers if I remember correctly. I believe this is why they have chosen to go with so few servers this time around. It looks they were far to cautious and they are having a repeat of Rifts launch to a certain extent. I have no love or trust for Trion any more but I hope they sort out this cluster**** of problems for everyone.
It's rinse and repeat time by opening too many servers and then having to shut them down. Really cannot blame them also since if you do not allow more servers people just leave out of frustration.
Every MMO launch has queues, Every MMO launch has bugs, Every MMO launch has customer service struggles, every MMO launch has login issues.
This is not new. The game is as popular now as it is likely to ever be. Population will drop dramatically within the next 3 months just like any other MMO has in the past. There is no profitable reason for Trion to hire a bunch of extra workers, have a ton of servers to choose from then just lay them all off once the population decreases, as this will happen anyway even with the amount of employees they have now.
Think of a funnel and the people are grains of rice. You dump all the grains in at once and is going to create a bottleneck in every department and of every single resource involved.
ESO later refunded people the extra time because the Megaserver went down so many times during headstart. It went down for longer durations than Archeage by far. Gw2 was offline an entire 24H into headstart. Diablo 3, same thing.
You forget one thing, one super important thing. The games you mention, the outcome of the endgame wasnt determined by who got the land and who didnt. On top of that the other mmos you mentioned werent around 3 years in different countries first. Those two things alone invalidate your statements.
Originally posted by cheyane It's rinse and repeat time by opening too many servers and then having to shut them down. Really cannot blame them also since if you do not allow more servers people just leave out of frustration.
People will leave if they have to merge back too. I think they should have held their cards and just let it ride. Oh well, almost everything is a gamble I guess. Probably in the long run it's all about revenue and from where I'm sitting it really doesn't effect me! /shrug
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
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oh sorry my mistake, just took a quick glance at the benefits of each pack
have troubles on launch/headstart does not make a game 'unfinished', people know what they where paying for (closed/open beta)
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
I've had the same experiences at Mtibbs.
Friday was mostly smooth. One black screen and a 2 hour queue over 13 hours of attempted play. (booo)
Saturday was bumpy during DDOS
Sunday was smooth. No interruptions.
Hardly a "catastrophe" . Just the kind of thing I expect to see on any launch day of any mmo . Some people really do like to make something out of nothing .
I know the OP for whatever reason would love to see this game fail but its just not going to happen because its a quality mmo .
Who are "we" ? Are you speaking for everyone again . Such self importance .
Can you link proof its failed in the two regions you mentioned or is that just you thinking its true just because you say it is .
You must really think the world revolves around you .
I'm not sure why you would think the OP would want the game to fail just for posting a link to a pretty good video. I learned a lot from what she had to say. I quickly scanned the OPs history and it seems that he is fairly supportive of the game. You have to agree that most everyone that is hating on the game right now are those that paid $150 for it, and they would hardly want it to fail. The rest like me are waiting until tomorrow and information like what he posted is very helpful.
Without threads like this I wouldn't have known that since sometime yesterday after the DDoS things are running much better.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
He's not really wrong, we could mean one other person and i have seen quite a few people echoing the same words. So he it right in away. And about the two regions, from what i've read K-version is been dominated by high end guilds to the point of preventing people progressing, Also there support is horrid and i don't mean, they didn't answer my ticket.
Biased GMs that would ban people for PKing reds,
Not restoring hacked accounts,
Not controlling gold sellers at all,
Ignoring bugs
Ru-version, not so informed on
People who think this is a quality MMO must remember TRION is just the publisher. They really don't have to do anything with the basic game, just the servers, and of course, Glyph. If it was such a quality MMO it wouldn't be doing bad in it's country of origin, Korea, and it is. This is the issue. The game has been out in Korea for 2 yrs and it is in a slow decline.
Not wishing the game bad at all but let's interject some reality into this discussion. Trion has screwed up Rift, and every other game they have touched. This is a 100% batting record. Why would this launch be any different. It is how they run games.
This game will end up being like Eve, where only big nasty guilds will be playing the game and everyone else will leave.
I played this game until lvl 25 in beta and felt it was mediocre at best. people waiting in line to do a quest? Couldn't they have the same system like GW2, If you tag and do a certain amount of damage, you get credit? I felt the on rails aspect of the tutorial was totally out of place and actually made the game look and feel bad. Then there was the LP system and as a F2P player, means that you are like a one legged man in a butt-kicking contest - it makes it very hard for you to do anything.
I feel that paying 150 USD for an untested, (ANY PRODUCT) is reckless but this game already has a track record and all you need do is look at it's performance in those areas to see how this game will end up. The old saying past performance is a record of possible future performance, if things don't change. Trion seems to have very little influence with XL Games - so just look at how they are doing elsewhere for what is up coming.
Whenever I see a post in response to the "we" comment where someone is telling someone else not to speak for other people, It's usually just someone's way of attempting to silence or discredit an opinion they don't like.
Thane was not the 1st to express his particular opinion on AA, nor was he the last. It's a simple case to do a forum search and you will find different posters expressing this. So Thane isn't wrong for saying "we"
However, I also think it's quite hypocritical to use this approach, since there are others who expressed that opinion. The posters who say "don't speak for others" are in fact, themselves, speaking for those who agree with Thane.
Funny how that works,
I know there are a lot of white knights for this game but seriously this game h as been pathetic since headtsart happened.
Now one could blame Glyph I suppose. But that is kind of too easy but Trion still chose to use it so it still makes it their fault.
One could blame DDOS attacks, but one would be stupid because who would waste time attacking something that is failing on its own?
There hasnt been a single fix to this game since I started in April. DX 11 still has the massive memory leak, pvp flagging is still stupid, crafting is still broken (no one realizes that yet because they havent been able to play enough to see it), labor points system is worse than ever, store bought chests giving gilda stars is a failure (especially after limiting the ways to get gilda in the game), still random CTDC for a half dozen reasons/errors that have existed since day one. People not getting their rewards, people getting too many rewards, jacked up quests. The list goes on and on and on.
This head start has been nothing but a failure. Alpha was great, especially the first couple months before they made the first set of game killing changes. But this release version is barely the same game as the original alpha build most people played in April and May. Changes were obvious but not to the extent they have been made. Hell even the version in August was light years better than this version.
But basing success or failure on subjectives isnt necessary. performance and stability of this game have been an F no doubt about it. When you could get into the game it has been freezes and lag and random crashes for who knows what. I did stay in game yesterday for about 3 hours before I crashed out, but when that is considered a positive you know things are horrible.
This would all be bad if this game were right off the test room shelf. But considering its been released in two other areas for almost two years now and has been here for over 6 months makes whats going on now all that much worse. If they dont get it together before the end of next week it might actually replace Vanguard as the worst launch in history.
meh, this is like any other new release in NA/EU or wherever. The release's have all sucked except for a few, the bugs are worked out, people leave withing 3 months, and a niche of hard core followers enjoy the game.
It's great to live in the moment, but look ahead a little and things will be better. Heck, look at SWToR if you need any kind of positive motivation for a game.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
But how does that work? the video clearly shows a person who plays the game and also has a founders pack. How can it be misinformation or someone who doesn't play? Also the Archage official forums are talking about the same thing.
Don't get my intentions wrong, just find it weird your saying they're spreading misinformation when most of the information being released is by players who have paid and played the game
I have played all of about 7 hours of SWOTOR, no interest in it.
I wouldnt give AA nearly the grief if it wasnt for them cash grabbing the 150 up front on a product that doesnt even resemble what they released, either in content or performance.
Its a free to play game obviously it isnt going to be top notch. But it was surely better on all fronts 4 months ago than it is today.
So while you can claim look to the future, when a game was better on 99% of everything it offered in the past than it is today then how can the future be bright? Any changes they make will probably not get it to where it was 4 or 5 months ago and those changes will undoubtedly bring more problems with them as well.
The game in alpha was fine, just a few tweaks on some numbers was all they needed, yet they made whole sale changes to just about everything. THATS why it was rushed out the door because people pissed and moaned on the last set of big changes they made they wanted to make sure people didnt have time to freak out over these.
Thats is one of the saving graces of the performance issues it hasnt given people time to complain about the changes. Its akin to complaining about the color of your house while its burning to the ground.
I found some good information from the video, but as you can see it is a couple days old now. If you go to the official forums most of the posts that were revolving around login problems and queue times are dwindling. There are smaller problems cropping up in the discussions but they are "normal" release problems. A lot of the newer discussions are starting to become common posts you would see on any other official forum like what race to play, and I saw one on how to avoid the queue.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Well my point about SWToR was that it was a dismal failure to most people for quite some time, it is now a highly successful game. If that game can make it just about any of them can.
As far as the $150 goes, that was up to those folks with the money to have decided, not Trion. People that play games have the brains enough to make their own decisions. IMHO if any of them saw previous releases of other titles they understood the risk of this happening. Its not a good thing, but its the normal thing now.
I can't comment on the performance issues because I have only played about an hour in beta. However, like most companies, when there is a problem it gets fixed asap. Everyone loves money and they know they won't get it if their product isn't running at peak performance. All these things will take time, but will be fixed.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Have you tried reinstalling it?
yeah that screenshot is comedy gold
the cool thing about sandbox all the crap of real life can happen to you in a game, yay! Waiting in line for an hour!
then going back to slaying boars
They must be British. I love it
I almost shelled out 150 bucks to get the elite founders. If you gonna be a founder do it all the way right? Then I thought better of it. Not because it is 150 bucks and I liked the game, but I knew the early access would be a total mess. It always is. Now in ESO there is actual advantage even if (and they did) screw up the early launch because it is one server. With AA there is no real advantage since new servers will be opened up at normal launch. Then that got me to thinking; every mmo is such a mess for the first couple of months. After the initial crash and broken quest bugs are fixed (mostly) you get the balance and exploit issues. The long term issues that take months and months to fix, the design flaws. An example would be the Stamina builds on ESO. Thinking about all the other MMO games I played I realized I am just tired of it. I like MMOs but I have gone through too many "extended paid betas" that I don't want to deal with it anymore. Nice to see I finally made a wise decision.
I think everyone who has played an MMO before knows in their brain that it is going to be a hot mess at the start, but they hope this will be the one that is not a hot mess. Kind of like hoping the cubs will win the world series and realizing after a month into the season it is not going to happen. I am not sure why we have these foolish hopes, but we do and when that hope is shattered there is an awful lot of angry people.
Can you all imagine the troll infested spam rage that will be the forums when the FTP folks come in Tuesday? That should be high comedy.
I doubt that anyone who was there when Rift launched could have imagined that it would have played out like this. Having been been there when Rift launched, there are some similiarities. Initially there were the same horrific cues and lack of servers as is happening with AA. After much bitching and moaning on the forums Trion opened up a tremendous amount of servers. Many people got so pissed off they just gave up and didn't return. Trion over reacted and opened way too many servers. Some time not long after the traffic died down and they ended up merging servers if I remember correctly. I believe this is why they have chosen to go with so few servers this time around. It looks they were far to cautious and they are having a repeat of Rifts launch to a certain extent. I have no love or trust for Trion any more but I hope they sort out this cluster**** of problems for everyone.
You forget one thing, one super important thing. The games you mention, the outcome of the endgame wasnt determined by who got the land and who didnt. On top of that the other mmos you mentioned werent around 3 years in different countries first. Those two things alone invalidate your statements.
People will leave if they have to merge back too. I think they should have held their cards and just let it ride. Oh well, almost everything is a gamble I guess. Probably in the long run it's all about revenue and from where I'm sitting it really doesn't effect me! /shrug
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