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RivolRivol Member UncommonPosts: 79

Well a lot of plots that were claimed during the Archeage headstart now have their taxes due and are becoming available. There are over 40+ players milling around these expiring plots hoping to claim the land (highlighting the drastic shortage of land availability).

The AA forums are in uproar because there are a few players using some in game hack which allows them to claim the land before anyone else. One player has reportedly claimed 10 plots using this hack despite numerous people simultaneously trying to get them.

Add to this the teleport trade hack, the AH sniper hack, the endless sea of bots etc, this makes the game almost unplayable for the legitimate player. Disappointingly, players from alpha tell us these hacks were known back then and Trion either were unable or unwilling to fix them.

Nothing will kill a game faster than hackers/exploiters, this needs to be priority one issue for Trion.

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  • Tyvolus4Tyvolus4 Member UncommonPosts: 192
    Originally posted by Rivol

    Well a lot of plots that were claimed during the Archeage headstart now have their taxes due and are becoming available. There are over 40+ players milling around these expiring plots hoping to claim the land (highlighting the drastic shortage of land availability).

    The AA forums are in uproar because there are a few players using some in game hack which allows them to claim the land before anyone else. One player has reportedly claimed 10 plots using this hack despite numerous people simultaneously trying to get them.

    Add to this the teleport trade hack, the AH sniper hack, the endless sea of bots etc, this makes the game almost unplayable for the legitimate player. Disappointingly, players from alpha tell us these hacks were known back then and Trion either were unable or unwilling to fix them.

    Nothing will kill a game faster than hackers/exploiters, this needs to be priority one issue for Trion.

     

    news to me.

  • zimikezimike Member UncommonPosts: 160
    The problem occurred in Alpha and Beta. The problem is that XLgames must fix the game, Trion can't. We had issues with people claiming expiring plots in Alpha without being at the site. I once was transferring a plot to my wife and it was claimed immediately by some bot like name with no one around.
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  • PixelPersonaPixelPersona Member UncommonPosts: 23

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

  • RivolRivol Member UncommonPosts: 79
    Sorry correct this requires XL games to fix, but Trion needs to pressure them to do so urgently. We can only hope they already have but it also begs the question why it wasn't addressed in alpha....
  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039
    Originally posted by PixelPersona
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by PixelPersona

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

    Can you say Fanboi?????

    If enjoying a game for a few hours a week is a fanboi then yes I suppose I am. I do not appreciate the back handed insult though.

    As a side not to the quote under your name. There are those that can and those that teach.

    People misuse the term fanboy now days.

    You are not a fanboy simply because you enjoy the game. However you are a fanboy if you spend more time on forums defending the game company as you would your own 'mother' rather than actually playing the game.

    I always tell people. Good games need no defense and bad ones have no defense.

  • PixelPersonaPixelPersona Member UncommonPosts: 23
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by PixelPersona
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by PixelPersona

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

    Can you say Fanboi?????

    If enjoying a game for a few hours a week is a fanboi then yes I suppose I am. I do not appreciate the back handed insult though.

    As a side not to the quote under your name. There are those that can and those that teach.

    People misuse the term fanboy now days.

    You are not a fanboy simply because you enjoy the game. However you are a fanboy if you spend more time on forums defending the game company as you would your own 'mother' rather than actually playing the game.

    I always tell people. Good games need no defense and bad ones have no defense.

    Ques suck on the weekend and I was bored so I came here. My first post was not defending the game as much as poking fun at the OP.

  • RivolRivol Member UncommonPosts: 79

    Apologies I didn't realize if a topic was being discussed on another forum then it precluded it from being discussed here....oh wait it doesn't!

    By all accounts this and other hacking issues are not new and have been around in the KR and RU releases as well as NA alpha. Just how much time does Trion/XL games need to get on top of it?

  • Astro6Astro6 Member UncommonPosts: 247

    I have never seen so may hackers in a mmo seas of bots using teleport hacks it makes the game unplayable in some areas the report system in game is horrible no wonder there are so many hackers.

    I have seen 100's of players with report debuffs for days on end nothing seems to be done about it.

     

  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779
    Same thing is happening on the Korean game too. XL needs to address the issue. People will continuously bash Trion for this issue, but in reality Trion can only ask XL to fix it, it's up to them whether or not they actually do it.
  • ohioastroohioastro Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Originally posted by Panther2103
    Same thing is happening on the Korean game too. XL needs to address the issue. People will continuously bash Trion for this issue, but in reality Trion can only ask XL to fix it, it's up to them whether or not they actually do it.

    This is actually a worrying sign.  Newly launched MMOs are complex, and it's normal to have software exploits and issues.  Usually they get steadily fixed, and after a few months the worst problems are gone.  But this is not a new Archeage launch  - it's the third market that the game has launched in.  And if hacks are a problem in a mature version of the game there is no reason to expect them to be fixed in a new one.

  • JabasJabas Member UncommonPosts: 1,249
    Originally posted by ohioastro
    Originally posted by Panther2103
    Same thing is happening on the Korean game too. XL needs to address the issue. People will continuously bash Trion for this issue, but in reality Trion can only ask XL to fix it, it's up to them whether or not they actually do it.

    This is actually a worrying sign.  Newly launched MMOs are complex, and it's normal to have software exploits and issues.  Usually they get steadily fixed, and after a few months the worst problems are gone.  But this is not a new Archeage launch  - it's the third market that the game has launched in.  And if hacks are a problem in a mature version of the game there is no reason to expect them to be fixed in a new one.

    4th market (Korea -> japan -> Russia -> West), i thing in China is still CB and will be the 5th. Or china was the 4th and West the 5th, not sure.

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by PixelPersona
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by PixelPersona

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

    Can you say Fanboi?????

    If enjoying a game for a few hours a week is a fanboi then yes I suppose I am. I do not appreciate the back handed insult though.

    As a side not to the quote under your name. There are those that can and those that teach.

    People misuse the term fanboy now days.

    You are not a fanboy simply because you enjoy the game. However you are a fanboy if you spend more time on forums defending the game company as you would your own 'mother' rather than actually playing the game.

    I always tell people. Good games need no defense and bad ones have no defense.

    I always thought a fanboy was one who become far too personally invested in their product of choice as though it was an extension of their own identity.

  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    Originally posted by PixelPersona

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

    Trion doesn't do coding - they are JUST the publisher and translator. If XL Games doesn't do anything about the hacks, TRION can't do anything either.


  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by ohioastro
    Originally posted by Panther2103
    Same thing is happening on the Korean game too. XL needs to address the issue. People will continuously bash Trion for this issue, but in reality Trion can only ask XL to fix it, it's up to them whether or not they actually do it.

    This is actually a worrying sign.  Newly launched MMOs are complex, and it's normal to have software exploits and issues.  Usually they get steadily fixed, and after a few months the worst problems are gone.  But this is not a new Archeage launch  - it's the third market that the game has launched in.  And if hacks are a problem in a mature version of the game there is no reason to expect them to be fixed in a new one.

     

    Well how do you explain XL adding client-server encryption for US/EU launch?

    No reason to expect fixes for mature games?

     

    AA had epic client side packet injection hacks prior to this - I mean look at KR and RU versions - speedhacks, teleport hacks - even spawning MOBs via packet replay - none of these work in launch US/EU version.

    There were folks hacking in Alpha for sure - I've seen it first hand, it was smart of XL to encrypt the traffic - I am sure the server overhead is nasty but its needed.

     

     

    The encryption method is quite poor and does nothing to prevent hacks. The anti-cheat system, used in game, is also quite poor. That is why very few other games use it.


  • caine6621caine6621 Member UncommonPosts: 210
    Originally posted by PixelPersona
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by PixelPersona
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by PixelPersona

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

    Can you say Fanboi?????

    If enjoying a game for a few hours a week is a fanboi then yes I suppose I am. I do not appreciate the back handed insult though.

    As a side not to the quote under your name. There are those that can and those that teach.

    People misuse the term fanboy now days.

    You are not a fanboy simply because you enjoy the game. However you are a fanboy if you spend more time on forums defending the game company as you would your own 'mother' rather than actually playing the game.

    I always tell people. Good games need no defense and bad ones have no defense.

    Ques suck on the weekend and I was bored so I came here. My first post was not defending the game as much as poking fun at the OP.

    I apologize, I was really drunk when I called you that.  I do think you are defending them when you shouldnt be though.

     

    As for my quote, there are those that can and they think they know how to teach

    There are only 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't

  • Varex12Varex12 Member CommonPosts: 357
    Originally posted by PixelPersona
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by PixelPersona
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by PixelPersona

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

    Can you say Fanboi?????

    If enjoying a game for a few hours a week is a fanboi then yes I suppose I am. I do not appreciate the back handed insult though.

    As a side not to the quote under your name. There are those that can and those that teach.

    People misuse the term fanboy now days.

    You are not a fanboy simply because you enjoy the game. However you are a fanboy if you spend more time on forums defending the game company as you would your own 'mother' rather than actually playing the game.

    I always tell people. Good games need no defense and bad ones have no defense.

    Ques suck on the weekend and I was bored so I came here. My first post was not defending the game as much as poking fun at the OP.

    Why were you poking fun at the OP?  He brings up a legitimate issue with the game that is seriously turning a lot of people off of it.  And your assertion that Trion has a group of people working to correct the problem is dubious, considering his was brought to their attention during alpha phase, and nothing was done about it then.  

  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    Originally posted by PixelPersona

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

    Because people like me do not check the forum for every game we are possibly interested in playing.  I get a feel for how things are going from this forum (taken with a grain of salt of course).  I appreciate the heads up.

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  • KuinnKuinn Member UncommonPosts: 2,072
    Crazy amount of goldspammers too, more than I have ever seen. They spammed the chat so fast yesterday when I logged in for the first time, that it was like a blender, impossible to even see what they were selling or which the site names were because it was like a goldspamming hurricane.
  • SincrestSincrest Member UncommonPosts: 20
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Rivol

    Well a lot of plots that were claimed during the Archeage headstart now have their taxes due and are becoming available. There are over 40+ players milling around these expiring plots hoping to claim the land (highlighting the drastic shortage of land availability).

    The AA forums are in uproar because there are a few players using some in game hack which allows them to claim the land before anyone else. One player has reportedly claimed 10 plots using this hack despite numerous people simultaneously trying to get them.

    Add to this the teleport trade hack, the AH sniper hack, the endless sea of bots etc, this makes the game almost unplayable for the legitimate player. Disappointingly, players from alpha tell us these hacks were known back then and Trion either were unable or unwilling to fix them.

    Nothing will kill a game faster than hackers/exploiters, this needs to be priority one issue for Trion.

     

    there are several wrong bits here

    1. Teleport trade hack - doesn't work anymore - was fixed when XL added client encryption at headstart as a matter of fact there are no working speedhacks at this time - zero. None of the client side hacks work anymore due to encryption.

    2. AH sniper hack - this is no *hack* - as in no game packets are being altered - its a macro that spams bids like EBay and other RL auction sniper tools

    3. Endless sea of bots - would love to see that :) hopefully at sea for easy PvP kills

    4. Land claim *hack* - again hacking is altering game packets sent from client to server - with client encryption this is not gonna happen, so its most likely an exploit of sorts not a *hack*

     

    Are there in game exploits - yes every game has those - but exploits and *hacks* are 2 entirely different things

     

    Also lastly only XL can change the code - Trion can't even change a single translation word in game - they have to submit suggestions to XL and XL makes all code changes

    There teleport hacks in the game just look at reddit or YouTube and you can see them here a video of people teleporting from mob to mob here one of people teleporting to the trader with packs and and a big reddit topic http://www.reddit.com/r/archeage/comments/2h6ud4/teleport_hackers_handing_in_trade_packs_in/?sort=new so I do not understand how you can say there is no teleport hacks anymore when there is or am I missing something.

  • LazyDazedLazyDazed Member UncommonPosts: 166
    You have to be pretty naive or just plain dumb if you think they prevented people from hacking. Maybe a slight bump in their methods.
  • OnsabooOnsaboo Member Posts: 48
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Rivol

    Well a lot of plots that were claimed during the Archeage headstart now have their taxes due and are becoming available. There are over 40+ players milling around these expiring plots hoping to claim the land (highlighting the drastic shortage of land availability).

    The AA forums are in uproar because there are a few players using some in game hack which allows them to claim the land before anyone else. One player has reportedly claimed 10 plots using this hack despite numerous people simultaneously trying to get them.

    Add to this the teleport trade hack, the AH sniper hack, the endless sea of bots etc, this makes the game almost unplayable for the legitimate player. Disappointingly, players from alpha tell us these hacks were known back then and Trion either were unable or unwilling to fix them.

    Nothing will kill a game faster than hackers/exploiters, this needs to be priority one issue for Trion.

     

    there are several wrong bits here

    1. Teleport trade hack - doesn't work anymore - was fixed when XL added client encryption at headstart as a matter of fact there are no working speedhacks at this time - zero. None of the client side hacks work anymore due to encryption.

    2. AH sniper hack - this is no *hack* - as in no game packets are being altered - its a macro that spams bids like EBay and other RL auction sniper tools

    3. Endless sea of bots - would love to see that :) hopefully at sea for easy PvP kills

    4. Land claim *hack* - again hacking is altering game packets sent from client to server - with client encryption this is not gonna happen, so its most likely an exploit of sorts not a *hack*

     

    Are there in game exploits - yes every game has those - but exploits and *hacks* are 2 entirely different things

     

    Also lastly only XL can change the code - Trion can't even change a single translation word in game - they have to submit suggestions to XL and XL makes all code changes

    Just WOW - you are completely incorrect. I've seen teleportation myself and there are videos all over youtube showing it.

  • andre369andre369 Member UncommonPosts: 970
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Rivol

    Well a lot of plots that were claimed during the Archeage headstart now have their taxes due and are becoming available. There are over 40+ players milling around these expiring plots hoping to claim the land (highlighting the drastic shortage of land availability).

    The AA forums are in uproar because there are a few players using some in game hack which allows them to claim the land before anyone else. One player has reportedly claimed 10 plots using this hack despite numerous people simultaneously trying to get them.

    Add to this the teleport trade hack, the AH sniper hack, the endless sea of bots etc, this makes the game almost unplayable for the legitimate player. Disappointingly, players from alpha tell us these hacks were known back then and Trion either were unable or unwilling to fix them.

    Nothing will kill a game faster than hackers/exploiters, this needs to be priority one issue for Trion.

     

    there are several wrong bits here

    1. Teleport trade hack - doesn't work anymore - was fixed when XL added client encryption at headstart as a matter of fact there are no working speedhacks at this time - zero. None of the client side hacks work anymore due to encryption.

    2. AH sniper hack - this is no *hack* - as in no game packets are being altered - its a macro that spams bids like EBay and other RL auction sniper tools

    3. Endless sea of bots - would love to see that :) hopefully at sea for easy PvP kills

    4. Land claim *hack* - again hacking is altering game packets sent from client to server - with client encryption this is not gonna happen, so its most likely an exploit of sorts not a *hack*

     

    Are there in game exploits - yes every game has those - but exploits and *hacks* are 2 entirely different things

     

    Also lastly only XL can change the code - Trion can't even change a single translation word in game - they have to submit suggestions to XL and XL makes all code changes

    If so why did I see several of them when I turned in my trade packs yesterday if it was fixed at headstart? 

    As for the meaning of some gold sellers doing it I dont really care and it does not impact me directly. 

    Plus you have the LP limitations which sets bots and players on a level playing field. So it is not like they can make infinite money.

  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Member UncommonPosts: 1,988
    Originally posted by Rivol

    Well a lot of plots that were claimed during the Archeage headstart now have their taxes due and are becoming available. There are over 40+ players milling around these expiring plots hoping to claim the land (highlighting the drastic shortage of land availability).

    The AA forums are in uproar because there are a few players using some in game hack which allows them to claim the land before anyone else. One player has reportedly claimed 10 plots using this hack despite numerous people simultaneously trying to get them.

    Add to this the teleport trade hack, the AH sniper hack, the endless sea of bots etc, this makes the game almost unplayable for the legitimate player. Disappointingly, players from alpha tell us these hacks were known back then and Trion either were unable or unwilling to fix them.

    Nothing will kill a game faster than hackers/exploiters, this needs to be priority one issue for Trion.

    My understanding is these hacks were known and have been in use on the Russian and Korean servers for years.

  • DeathageDeathage Member CommonPosts: 146
    Originally posted by PixelPersona

    So the 30+ post on the Archeage forums are not enough you need to make another one here because...?

    I am sure Trion are working on it there is no need to start roaming with pitch forks and torches just yet.

    Why shouldn't he, is the question? What is the cost of his doing so? I play AA a whole lot, yet almost never visit the forums unless I'm looking for specific information. I do however, visit these forums regularly, so thanks OP. Not a waste of time or "space".

     

    I've seen my fair share of botters, but almost always are either gold spammers or farm bots at the hasla mob drop sites/jester's coinpurse mobs

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