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Any MMOs out there with a non cluttered action bar and less skills?

SickSoulSickSoul Member Posts: 8
So over the years I've tried my hand at Hot-keying and I am just terrible at it unfortunately. Tried Aion and the number of Actions or you bar is insane along with some classes I would like to play in WoW (unless they changed that). I know Lotro reduced the number of Actions and streamlined it so i wasn't going crazy clicking and clicking and clicking. I don't really know what Archeage action bars are like i just started playing and have yet to find out if it's at all like that. I liked the Action bars for GW2 (even though it's not an MMO D3) and Wildstar a lot because i didn't really have to move my hand around like crazy hitting buttons and sucking at it, i resorted to clicking everything and i really want to see the battles, i mean I can but to a limited extent ya know? Are there any games that simplify Action Bars like that to make it a little less chaotic? I know Rift has Macros and you can attach whatever action you want to them (not a big fan of Rift ever since the expansion though unfortunately :(, i heard TESO does that but that it's also not to fun of a game. any help would be appreciated.

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  • galphargalphar Member UncommonPosts: 81
    You could try DC Universe Online(DCUO). You can play it on PlayStation or PC. If you try PC version my suggestion would be to get a PS-type controller for your PC.


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  • LustmordLustmord Member UncommonPosts: 1,114
    Darkfall. You have to hotkey about 16 abilities between your mouse and keyboard. Is that too much?

    They also have a radial wheel option that allows you to cut that number in half by toggling back and forth between 2 bars... but I prefer to hotkey everything.
  • dreamsfadedreamsfade Member UncommonPosts: 339

    I know WoW is streamlining their class abilities in patch 6.0. I do not know of any games that I can recommend to you unfortunately. 

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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,070

    In WoW the developers are doing some "ability pruning" to cut back on the hotkey bloat that has increased over time. You can read some more about it here: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/13423478/warlords-of-draenor%E2%84%A2-beta-patch-notes-august-19-8-19-2014 and here is the first paragraph to give you a general idea:

    Over the years, we've added significantly more new spells and abilities to the game than we've removed. This has led to the complexity of the game increasing steadily over time, to the point we're at now, where players feel like they need dozens of keybinds. There are many niche abilities which could theoretically be useful in some rare case, but usually are not. There are many abilities that we'd be better off not having. We decided that we needed to make a strong push for paring down the number of abilities each class/spec has. That means making some abilities restricted to certain specs that really need them instead of being class-wide, and outright removing some other abilities. It also includes removing some Spellbook clutter, such as passives that could be merged with others, or with base abilities.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818

    Any of the console generation mmos have very few skills on the hot bar. It's just a matter of what you like in the game. Try neverwinter, it's simple and free. I wouldn't take peoples word here on TESO. btw.  If you don't mind the box price it's worth trying.

     

  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    You can try TSW.  I think it's like GW2, or WS.
  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181
    People are often complaining about having too small a hotbar in ESO, so add that one to your 'check it out' list :)
  • eldariseldaris Member UncommonPosts: 353

    You should give Teso a try,it's quite fun to level to 50 - after that it depends on how much you hate the other factions .

  • zzaxzzax Member UncommonPosts: 324
    WoW's pruning is like -1 skill in some cases. I definitely dont recommend it, its still one big mess.
  • eldariseldaris Member UncommonPosts: 353


    Originally posted by zzax
    WoW's pruning is like -1 skill in some cases. I definitely dont recommend it, its still one big mess.

    Good to hear that,already WoW cut too much stuff over the years,ending with 10 skills would be awful for veteran players.

  • iridescenceiridescence Member UncommonPosts: 1,552
    Unfortunately for me as someone who LIKES having at least 5 bars full of abilities this is the direction most MMOs seem to be going. It's one of my most hated changes in newer MMOs. Anyway, Try GW2, NWO,ESO,ArcheAge,FFXIV, so many of the newer ones have this dumbed down MOBA-like ability system.  
  • BenediktBenedikt Member UncommonPosts: 1,406
    Originally posted by observer
    You can try TSW.  I think it's like GW2, or WS.

    i agree, it has 1 bar like gw2, but the combat is a lot slower (at least so it was when i played last time)

  • TatercakeTatercake Member UncommonPosts: 286

    try gw2 it has 10 skills in the action bar but a lot of skills to chose from

     

  • ArazaleArazale Member Posts: 348
    OP, you mentioned liking D3(i think) so give Marvel Heroes a try. They also only have like 8 abilities or so that you typically use. (maybe 1-2 more for buffs/movement purposes only)
  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    Originally posted by Gorwe
    As with anything these days, I'd recommend swtor.

    I can't think of an instance where you would need full two hotbars(24 skills). During most of the game it comes down to like 8 skills. Plus, you can scale, move, re-hotkey etc hotbars. It is a really good game!

    Otherwise try those other, modern games. Games such as TSW, GW 1 and 2 and ESO. All of them are quality games.

    Whatever you choose, have fun!

    Swtor?  You need like 3-4 bars full of skills. lol.

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    Elder Scrolls Online
  • NuhaineNuhaine Member UncommonPosts: 58

    An MMO that doesn't get crazy with how many skills you have on the UI is Project: Gorgon. There are two skill bars with 6 skills each and a side bar with skills you rarely ever use unless you want to use it for potions and first aid kits. Skills are sort of like Guild Wars 2. It also has a Diablo 3 feel in that the loot you get is random, and you can do some dungeon crawling though there isn't any procedural generation.

     

    It's an Alpha, though. There are no micro-transactions and there is no fee to play Alpha. Just download the client. The graphics aren't better than either of the two games you mentioned, but it has a charm of its own. I don't see characters being wiped for a very long time, so that's a plus. =)

  • SickSoulSickSoul Member Posts: 8
    thanks for the replies everyone, it's looking like i may give TESO a go, i checked out their website and it sees they've added a good amount of content, i guess you can do a dungeon at a certain level, once you reach max level you can return to that dungeon and there will be new challenges, sounds like a great idea actually, that and Master dungeons. I heard there were only 4 classes but with 3-4 paths each which in total i guess would make 12-16 all together is not bad at all. Originally i was skeptical about it and usually don't play games for the stories (i don't know why haha) so is it possible just to skip all of the dialogue/ES like chatter and picking answers and what not at random or does that have an effect on the game and it's outcome?
  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    Originally posted by SickSoul
    thanks for the replies everyone, it's looking like i may give TESO a go, i checked out their website and it sees they've added a good amount of content, i guess you can do a dungeon at a certain level, once you reach max level you can return to that dungeon and there will be new challenges, sounds like a great idea actually, that and Master dungeons. I heard there were only 4 classes but with 3-4 paths each which in total i guess would make 12-16 all together is not bad at all. Originally i was skeptical about it and usually don't play games for the stories (i don't know why haha) so is it possible just to skip all of the dialogue/ES like chatter and picking answers and what not at random or does that have an effect on the game and it's outcome?

    I don't know about end game stuff (not there yet), but ESO is polished and there's plenty to do. Aside from no action bar clutter, most of the UI is hidden when it's not necessary to see (e.g. chat window automatically goes if nobody is saying anything).

    Some decisions do affect the game, but almost all dialogue options are for the story/lore. It's pretty obvious when it's going to change something.

    Be sure to shop around for keys, you can still find it with the Explorer's Pack for about £10/$15 and 30 days.

  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Originally posted by Gorwe
    As with anything these days, I'd recommend swtor.

    I can't think of an instance where you would need full two hotbars(24 skills). During most of the game it comes down to like 8 skills. Plus, you can scale, move, re-hotkey etc hotbars. It is a really good game!

    Otherwise try those other, modern games. Games such as TSW, GW 1 and 2 and ESO. All of them are quality games.

    Whatever you choose, have fun!

    I'll throw in my support for SWTOR as well. As Gorwe said, most of the time you'll probably be using about 8 skills. All the rest are highly situational, like abilities with a long cooldown you're only going to use during a tough battle, or ones you'll only activate when trying to solo heroics or doing group content (CC abilties).

    And if you really want a game that has a small action bar, The Secret World is a good one to go for, as someone mentioned already. It's B2P, and often on discount. It has a fun main story and a good setting, and plenty of customization when it comes to your build.

    ESO also has the smaller hotbar. And it's also a fun game IMO. Of course it all comes down to your own opinion and tastes. Here's another recent thread, of someone who was told ESO was no fun, and stayed away from it for some time because he listened to the more vocal elements, who like to browbeat everyone into sharing their opinion.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/421592/Pleasantly-surprised.html

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Originally posted by SickSoul
    thanks for the replies everyone, it's looking like i may give TESO a go, i checked out their website and it sees they've added a good amount of content, i guess you can do a dungeon at a certain level, once you reach max level you can return to that dungeon and there will be new challenges, sounds like a great idea actually, that and Master dungeons. I heard there were only 4 classes but with 3-4 paths each which in total i guess would make 12-16 all together is not bad at all. Originally i was skeptical about it and usually don't play games for the stories (i don't know why haha) so is it possible just to skip all of the dialogue/ES like chatter and picking answers and what not at random or does that have an effect on the game and it's outcome?

    Yes, as in most games you can just click through the dialogues.

    Your choices will somewhat shape how certain areas look around you, but there's no major impact, and it won't affect your character's stats or anything if that's what you mean.

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • cyberpunkhobocyberpunkhobo Member UncommonPosts: 71
    I'm going to suggest an alternative if the number of abilities you have at your disposal is the only thing driving you away from hotbar-heavy MMORPGs: set your sights on becoming a macro ninja and/or get a programmable keyboard. I don't think I have to tell you that combat in the vast majority of these titles can be broken down to a predictable sequence of keystrokes. It's why mob-grinding bots are possible, but it's also why less-able gamers can play and have a good time. Traditionally, WoW tends to get the most flak for enabling one-button gameplay (or something approaching it), but you can make most MMORPGs play like this if you really want to. Your damage output is obviously not going to be optimal, but you don't come across as someone who really cares. I don't think I've ever seen a game with Terms of Service that would forbid you from using such tools so long as one keypress on the keyboard always corresponds with one keypress in the game.

    Otherwise, I'll second others' suggestions of ESO and TSW. They can be bought pretty cheap and are certainly worth at least one look.
  • SickSoulSickSoul Member Posts: 8
    I don't mind Macro-ing at all and i'd really hate the one key for everything idea, I just wasn't sure what all games have Macros included and what not. I mean i like a decent challenge but when i have to hit CTL + 9 then Alt or Shift + 4 or something way across the keyboard i hate it, because there's always gonna be a skill/action you have to reach that far for i just absolutely hate clicking on skills because I can't pay attention to the game and I just got sick of not being able to look at the games and i really don't have the time to teach myself to learn all the different hotkeys as i play SC2 sometimes as well and if you want to play that game competitively you HAVE to know too which is a major turn off, i've seen videos of Koreans (granted it's a friggin sport over there) who can do it so fast like what's the point? haha, I've been playing Archeage but i'm not sure as to how action heavy it is either or if you can macro, I wouldn't say the less the better, just something not totally friggin insane, i'm more of a casual player and just don't have the time to teach myself :(. How much does a Programmable Keyboard run?
  • LIOKILIOKI Member UncommonPosts: 421
    Neverwinter if it hasn't been mentioned yet. F2P so zero risk in trying it out.
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