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copying of blizz continues ...
nariusseldon
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/10/13/runescape-announces-hearthstone-like-card-game/
"Hearthstone's success is hard to ignore in the industry, and it doesn't take much effort to connect the dots between that title's growth and Jagex's decision to develop an in-game card battler for RuneScape. The UK-based studio announced that it's making Chronicle: RuneScape Legends to be played inside of its popular MMO."
Not surprising though. Blizz is successful in every game they have released since the first warcraft. If one wants to clone games, clone theirs!
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If this were true, then Hearthstone would be A LOT better of a game and not the boring travesty that it is.
What hearthstone does well is it distills the CCG experience into an easy to consume, yet shallow game. The only thing it has in common with MTG is that it's technically a CCG.
Hex on the other hand is a MTG clone. In a very literal way. Also, if you haven't had the chance to play the beta, it also manages to suck.
I was thinking about adding "Simplified" but decided to leave that out. ^-^
I have a friend who is a magic player and has been for years. I showed him Hearthstone and he said its great for beginners. For him its like easy mode.
nah .. a standalone game is more convenient.
Square Enix has Tetra Master and Triple Triad card games from the Final Fantasy series they should have already exploited.
Not sure how the Disney acquisition of StarWars affects releasing a stand-alone Pazaak game, but given the commercialization of everything else in SWTOR it seems there would be an opportunity there to add it. Heck, players have been asking for it since the game was announced (yet another way BioWare screwed the pooch with the game).
Read the OP and thought the same exact thing.
Since the first Warcraft was mentioned by the OP:
1st Warcraft == Warhammer Fantasy rip-off (for lack of WH license)
StarCraft == Warhammer 40K rip-off
WoW == dumbed down EQ rip-off based on Warhammer copycat IP*
Hearthstone == dumbed down Magic the Gathering rip-off based on Warhammer copycat IP*
Still Blizzard succeed in selling their s***.
So why criticising Jagex for learing from them?
Sorry for this trollish post, but I just don't get why people tend to think of Blizzard as a source of creativity when most of their games are a patchwork of stolen thoughts.
* meanwhile degenerated into comicstyle parody of a fantasy universe which causes eye bleed
I hate WoW and what it has done to the MMO genre.
Says who?
Blizz is a master of polish and iterative design to make games fun. Creativity is not that important when they can out-implement everyone.
The 1st Warcraft (and WC2) are more successful than any Warhammer RTS.
SC and SC2 are more successful than any WH40K games.
Hearthstone has 20M players.
It is pretty good evidence that you don't need completely new games, you just need to make them more polished and more fun than others.
And oh ... Diablo is original, isn't it?
I've been playing Hearthstone lately and yes I can see how it's simple compared to Magic but I doubt blizzard is going to drop the ball long term on this game for hardcore players.
I can see them ramping up the complexity as more and more cards/adventures are released. The way things progress in Hearthstone there's a natural and slow progression to more complexity. They can keep it simple for the lower ranks, and keep the higher ranks always on edge for that next strategy or deck.
I think it's really well done and really hasn't even left the gate yet. Mark my words on this. This game is just getting started and will be around for a LONG time.
dont forget Legends of Norrath
https://www.legendsofnorrath.com/
a CCG inside the mmo Everquest2 for the last 7 years (since Sept 2007)
EQ2 fan sites
You do know players = registered accounts......right?
It is probably already more popular than the magic online game.
"Simple" is deceptive. All the complexity is in the cards, and the combination of cards. In fact, i like the fact that they streamline the resource model and there is less uncertainty in knowing what I can or cannot put out in a turn.
That opens up more focus on the use of syneries of the cards.
Given Blizz track record, i have no doubt they can have long term successes. Just look at D2, and how long the first Starcraft has been running.
^^ Pretty much this.
Side note and off topic a bit, I enjoy Hearthstone much more than I did MTG.
Yeh ... and how many games got 20M downloads in 6 months of its release?
To be fair for Blizzard.. They were working with GWS until they pulled out and so Blizzard went ahead and made adjustments and released Warcraft. I am sure GWS has been regretting that decision ever since.
I dont see how Starcraft ripoffs WH40K? Not much alike as far as I can tell.
WoW wasnt " dumbed down " until much later and even now it can be one of the more difficult MMOs if you so choose.
Never played Hearthstone and probably never will. TCGs are not for me. But I hear from new players and veterans of the genre that it is really good.
I do see similarities.
The terran soldiers look very much like the space marines.
The protoss look very much like the eldars.
The zerg look very much like the tyranids.
However, there are also much differences (like the vehicle & mecha designs). But at the end of the day, SC (and SC2) is the most successful sci-fi RTS, and it shows Blizz knows how to implement games well. You don't need 100% new ideas to make better games.
"copying of blizz continues ..."
-> "copying by blizz continues..."
FTFY.
And my apologies for feeding the OP troll.
/thread
Does each download require a new registered account or can one person download multiple copies?
Still .. how many players bother to download many copies of games they do not like?
And how many games have 20M downloads, even including the possibility of some registering multiple times?
This has little to do with a CCG, but I couldn't help but think... Blitzball Online! Chocobo Racing Online! Butterfly Catching Online! Lightning Dodging Online! Cactuar Hunting Online! The possibilities are endless!
Played: DAoC, AC2, WoW, CoH, GW, GW2, WAR, AoC, Champions Online, Rift, Dragon Nest, Vindictus, Warframe, Neverwinter, Dungeon Fighter Online
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Waiting for: None
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You beat me to it.
"Blizz copying EverQuest continues" is a better title.
EDIT: It's for EverQuest *and* EverQuest 2
Hearthstone, true to its' keepers, is literally a dumbed down version of LoN.