I just made it to level 15 and feel absolutely nothing for the game. I am not immersed, I am not compelled, I am not enjoying myself. True, I haven't seen the PVP nor the crafting, but at this point I'm already bored with the experience.
The story is as unengaging as it gets. The quests are paint by number. I've seen people praise this game and others bash it. I guess I just don't get this one.
I constantly feel a "been here; done that" sort of emotion when playing and I find that I am playing for the sake of playing rather than the sake of having fun.
I will try to continue on, but fear I am reaching the point where I may stop.
Sorry if you are talking about doing quests at level 15 ...this game isn't for you ,now if you were talking about fishing, farming. trade runs .treasure hunting and exploration you might have had a chance .
Yes because you can't grind a couple of hours a day and then come back the day after..I wonder if your maturing players aren't just some instant gratification seekers kiddies
Let me guess, upper left?
I'm afraid bottom left, i don't have much time left for games; but i still enjoy working for my rewards instead of getting everything spoonfed ^^. People like different things.
Also i suggested a couple of hours, so i don't see where i said i play 15 hours a day? Do you even english?
Bottom left? lol
I don't believe that for a second, but by all means, carry on. It's your fantasy after all.
Same happened to ESO when released but opposite and tile were same...
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same with Unbiased Review and MMORPG REVIEW
Before release they bashed game badly and after realease after some time came out one more review well ESO isn't that but after all still ESO lost lot of player base because of mmorpg and other scum websites
I just made it to level 15 and feel absolutely nothing for the game. I am not immersed, I am not compelled, I am not enjoying myself. True, I haven't seen the PVP nor the crafting, but at this point I'm already bored with the experience.
The story is as unengaging as it gets. The quests are paint by number. I've seen people praise this game and others bash it. I guess I just don't get this one.
I constantly feel a "been here; done that" sort of emotion when playing and I find that I am playing for the sake of playing rather than the sake of having fun.
I will try to continue on, but fear I am reaching the point where I may stop.
Sorry if you are talking about doing quests at level 15 ...this game isn't for you ,now if you were talking about fishing, farming. trade runs .treasure hunting and exploration you might have had a chance .
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you implying I am playing it wrong?
I just made it to level 15 and feel absolutely nothing for the game. I am not immersed, I am not compelled, I am not enjoying myself. True, I haven't seen the PVP nor the crafting, but at this point I'm already bored with the experience.
The story is as unengaging as it gets. The quests are paint by number. I've seen people praise this game and others bash it. I guess I just don't get this one.
I constantly feel a "been here; done that" sort of emotion when playing and I find that I am playing for the sake of playing rather than the sake of having fun.
I will try to continue on, but fear I am reaching the point where I may stop.
You really have not scratched the surface at lvl15. You need a large and active guild to enjoy this game, land myabe not so much but it helps.
I understand that I haven't scratched the surface, but how long do I need to go before I can scratch it? Why not just introduce me to those things to begin with? Right now, the promise of "things will get better" is simply not enough for me.
I just made it to level 15 and feel absolutely nothing for the game. I am not immersed, I am not compelled, I am not enjoying myself. True, I haven't seen the PVP nor the crafting, but at this point I'm already bored with the experience.
The story is as unengaging as it gets. The quests are paint by number. I've seen people praise this game and others bash it. I guess I just don't get this one.
I constantly feel a "been here; done that" sort of emotion when playing and I find that I am playing for the sake of playing rather than the sake of having fun.
I will try to continue on, but fear I am reaching the point where I may stop.
Sorry if you are talking about doing quests at level 15 ...this game isn't for you ,now if you were talking about fishing, farming. trade runs .treasure hunting and exploration you might have had a chance .
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you implying I am playing it wrong?
Actually, yes, he is implying you are playing it wrong. While the game clearly steers new users into the quest tree, it probably is the worst way to start because as you have observed, the questing is pretty bland and uninspiring and definitely not the game's long suit.
Only quests many folks bother with is the mainline in order to get the farms, gliders etc, and otherwise they level up in other ways such as mining or crafting.
While my first 50 was done almost exclusively through questing, some of my alts I got to level 25 pretty much only mining ore and stone and refining them. Was a bit weird to go back to the mainline quests and totally roll them due to being over leveled, (however I was undergeared and had to buy stuff of AH)
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Viper482
Originally posted by grimal
I am troubled by this game.
I just made it to level 15 and feel absolutely nothing for the game. I am not immersed, I am not compelled, I am not enjoying myself. True, I haven't seen the PVP nor the crafting, but at this point I'm already bored with the experience.
The story is as unengaging as it gets. The quests are paint by number. I've seen people praise this game and others bash it. I guess I just don't get this one.
I constantly feel a "been here; done that" sort of emotion when playing and I find that I am playing for the sake of playing rather than the sake of having fun.
I will try to continue on, but fear I am reaching the point where I may stop.
You really have not scratched the surface at lvl15. You need a large and active guild to enjoy this game, land myabe not so much but it helps.
I understand that I haven't scratched the surface, but how long do I need to go before I can scratch it? Why not just introduce me to those things to begin with? Right now, the promise of "things will get better" is simply not enough for me.
It's hard to say. When first started playing I got to level 30 and recall still not being sure I was having much fun yet, but after paying 150 for founders I was motivated to dig a little bit deeper.
At that point I hooked up with my large corporate guild and changed up my playing style, still doing quests, but putting more focus in farming, helping the guild set up the guild villlage on the northlands, did more mining and stuff, and found the game play to open up quite a bit more.
I really started to enjoy the game at this point, and thought I'd be playing at launch.
Not wanting to go through the land rush I decided to hold off a bit to see if the craziness would die off, and give Trion a chance to iron out the many issues we've all read about.
I'll agree, it's unfortunate that unless you have someone to help you jump off the quest line the game comes across very badly, and I wish they had designed it differently.
That's why I've said previously, some people won't get it. This is not a reflection on them, rather in the game's design that unless certain events happen based more on luck or choice of guild many will never see the game underneath, where IMO most of the fun lies.
EVE has the same issue btw, many people have to go through multiple trials before finally "getting it", and of course most never do.
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I understand that I haven't scratched the surface, but how long do I need to go before I can scratch it? Why not just introduce me to those things to begin with? Right now, the promise of "things will get better" is simply not enough for me.
It's hard to say. When first started playing I got to level 30 and recall still not being sure I was having much fun yet, but after paying 150 for founders I was motivated to dig a little bit deeper.
At that point I hooked up with my large corporate guild and changed up my playing style, still doing quests, but putting more focus in farming, helping the guild set up the guild villlage on the northlands, did more mining and stuff, and found the game play to open up quite a bit more.
I really started to enjoy the game at this point, and thought I'd be playing at launch.
Not wanting to go through the land rush I decided to hold off a bit to see if the craziness would die off, and give Trion a chance to iron out the many issues we've all read about.
I'll agree, it's unfortunate that unless you have someone to help you jump off the quest line the game comes across very badly, and I wish they had designed it differently.
That's why I've said previously, some people won't get it. This is not a reflection on them, rather in the game's design that unless certain events happen based more on luck or choice of guild many will never see the game underneath, where IMO most of the fun lies.
EVE has the same issue btw, many people have to go through multiple trials before finally "getting it", and of course most never do.
Well, that does help. I think they severely hurt the game by limiting chat to level 15. I could have been searching for a guild or people to play with during that time. I'll see if I can find a guild to join.
I agree though, the game is not presented very well at all during the initial levels. If this game offers so much (as I've heard), why did they execute the beginning game so poorly?
Originally posted by Dodsferd Wait, where is the sieges point review? For those who would only play for the castle sieges and don't give a crap about economy and crafting.
Sieges aren't in-game yet. They're coming in the upcoming update, though. You can't review something that doesn't exist. ...unless you're playing the Korean or Russian version of AA, obviously.
That said, if you're playing AA only for the sieges, you're gonna be dissappointed. From what I know, there's like... one a week, and you BID on it so only one (rich. ...and not rich, anymore, after paying the bid!) attacking guild gets to partake in it (as well as the defenders). (well, four attacking guilds vs four defenders at best. There are four castles). The defenders can bid too so on some weeks there will be no sieging at all. From what I know, at least. I could be wrong on this one.
I understand that I haven't scratched the surface, but how long do I need to go before I can scratch it? Why not just introduce me to those things to begin with? Right now, the promise of "things will get better" is simply not enough for me.
It's hard to say. When first started playing I got to level 30 and recall still not being sure I was having much fun yet, but after paying 150 for founders I was motivated to dig a little bit deeper.
At that point I hooked up with my large corporate guild and changed up my playing style, still doing quests, but putting more focus in farming, helping the guild set up the guild villlage on the northlands, did more mining and stuff, and found the game play to open up quite a bit more.
I really started to enjoy the game at this point, and thought I'd be playing at launch.
Not wanting to go through the land rush I decided to hold off a bit to see if the craziness would die off, and give Trion a chance to iron out the many issues we've all read about.
I'll agree, it's unfortunate that unless you have someone to help you jump off the quest line the game comes across very badly, and I wish they had designed it differently.
That's why I've said previously, some people won't get it. This is not a reflection on them, rather in the game's design that unless certain events happen based more on luck or choice of guild many will never see the game underneath, where IMO most of the fun lies.
EVE has the same issue btw, many people have to go through multiple trials before finally "getting it", and of course most never do.
Well, that does help. I think they severely hurt the game by limiting chat to level 15. I could have been searching for a guild or people to play with during that time. I'll see if I can find a guild to join.
I agree though, the game is not presented very well at all during the initial levels. If this game offers so much (as I've heard), why did they execute the beginning game so poorly?
It's not just the beginning. The stories and quest dialogue in AA are abysmal - and that continues throughout the game. The fun to be had is primarily player generated... scratch that, it's guild-generated. I found and joined a guild before ever starting and every minute I have played I have been on Teamspeak.
My first 15 levels were spent questing AND working toward common goals. For example, one of the very first things we did was pool resources to get one player in our guild a clipper. Once he had that he became the transport for all of us doing our 4th tradepack run in order to get the free large farm deed which you acquire by going to the other continent. Our game play has always been guild-focused and continues that way.
That makes the banality of the quest stories almost irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
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I just made it to level 15 and feel absolutely nothing for the game. I am not immersed, I am not compelled, I am not enjoying myself. True, I haven't seen the PVP nor the crafting, but at this point I'm already bored with the experience.
The story is as unengaging as it gets. The quests are paint by number. I've seen people praise this game and others bash it. I guess I just don't get this one.
I constantly feel a "been here; done that" sort of emotion when playing and I find that I am playing for the sake of playing rather than the sake of having fun.
I will try to continue on, but fear I am reaching the point where I may stop.
Do
Not
Solo
If you want to have fun in ArcheAge and really see it for what it is - play actively with a guild of folks that you get along with.
Soloing in ArcheAge would be the same as soloing a group sport - Football, Baseball, Basketball - they all suck when played solo and will give you a very wrong impression about what those sports are about.
A little hard to find a guild when I haven't been able to chat until just hitting 15.
I understand that I haven't scratched the surface, but how long do I need to go before I can scratch it? Why not just introduce me to those things to begin with? Right now, the promise of "things will get better" is simply not enough for me.
It's hard to say. When first started playing I got to level 30 and recall still not being sure I was having much fun yet, but after paying 150 for founders I was motivated to dig a little bit deeper.
At that point I hooked up with my large corporate guild and changed up my playing style, still doing quests, but putting more focus in farming, helping the guild set up the guild villlage on the northlands, did more mining and stuff, and found the game play to open up quite a bit more.
I really started to enjoy the game at this point, and thought I'd be playing at launch.
Not wanting to go through the land rush I decided to hold off a bit to see if the craziness would die off, and give Trion a chance to iron out the many issues we've all read about.
I'll agree, it's unfortunate that unless you have someone to help you jump off the quest line the game comes across very badly, and I wish they had designed it differently.
That's why I've said previously, some people won't get it. This is not a reflection on them, rather in the game's design that unless certain events happen based more on luck or choice of guild many will never see the game underneath, where IMO most of the fun lies.
EVE has the same issue btw, many people have to go through multiple trials before finally "getting it", and of course most never do.
Well, that does help. I think they severely hurt the game by limiting chat to level 15. I could have been searching for a guild or people to play with during that time. I'll see if I can find a guild to join.
I agree though, the game is not presented very well at all during the initial levels. If this game offers so much (as I've heard), why did they execute the beginning game so poorly?
It's not just the beginning. The stories and quest dialogue in AA are abysmal - and that continues throughout the game. The fun to be had is primarily player generated... scratch that, it's guild-generated. I found and joined a guild before ever starting and every minute I have played I have been on Teamspeak.
My first 15 levels were spent questing AND working toward common goals. For example, one of the very first things we did was pool resources to get one player in our guild a clipper. Once he had that he became the transport for all of us doing our 4th tradepack run in order to get the free large farm deed which you acquire by going to the other continent. Our game play has always been guild-focused and continues that way.
That makes the banality of the quest stories almost irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
So,
If you are playing ArchAge, it needs you to join in a guild. (SARCASTIC SMILE)
So this game needs a lot of things starting from patron to subscription to guild to grind like a PIG for gold to achieve some gear to "YOU CANNOT BE A CASUAL GAMER" to play ethically where most are hacking it out.
Please enlighten us what else do we need ?
Cheers Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
I just made it to level 15 and feel absolutely nothing for the game. I am not immersed, I am not compelled, I am not enjoying myself. True, I haven't seen the PVP nor the crafting, but at this point I'm already bored with the experience.
The story is as unengaging as it gets. The quests are paint by number. I've seen people praise this game and others bash it. I guess I just don't get this one.
I constantly feel a "been here; done that" sort of emotion when playing and I find that I am playing for the sake of playing rather than the sake of having fun.
I will try to continue on, but fear I am reaching the point where I may stop.
Do
Not
Solo
If you want to have fun in ArcheAge and really see it for what it is - play actively with a guild of folks that you get along with.
Soloing in ArcheAge would be the same as soloing a group sport - Football, Baseball, Basketball - they all suck when played solo and will give you a very wrong impression about what those sports are about.
No one wants to solo a mmo. Everyone has better options to solo. However if the game lacks real players then you just solo. Joining a show-off guild which has a few from 2096 alts online and not being able to make or give or help out in any game action forces you to solo.
I soloed till highest level and sorry to say it is a solo game after all unless and untill you are forced to party to farm something in PK areas.
Cheers Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
I have no idea how I'm going to get from 30 - 50. The leveling through questing slowed to a crawl at 20. I have no land, I can't farm. Don't have enough money to buy mats to craft, can't farm to craft. Don't have mats for a trade pack. No sure what the hell I should be doing at this point.
Edit: Great review OP! It was very informative for us newbies.
I have no idea how I'm going to get from 30 - 50. The leveling through questing slowed to a crawl at 20. I have no land, I can't farm. Don't have enough money to buy mats to craft, can't farm to craft. Don't have mats for a trade pack. No sure what the hell I should be doing at this point.
Edit: Great review OP! It was very informative for us newbies.
Quit, Uninstall, Etc
Even if you go to max level the way I did, there is absolutely nothing.
Play something that makes you enjoy an Mmo.
Trust Me, this is one HELL of an mmo.
In terms of the negative vibes I got from this game , it surpasses all other negative F2P experiences.
Cheers Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
Either join a guild in AA or leave before you've wasted too much time and/or money. You won't get anywhere later on without one (even crafting anything high end is a group effort later on) and even if you hypothetically DID get anywhere without one, what would you DO later on? AA's end game is PvP, primarily GROUP PvP, so even if you magically solo'd yourself to the best gear and cap (hypothetically, because it's not going to happen in reality), you'd still have nothing to DO later on while solo.
I understand that I haven't scratched the surface, but how long do I need to go before I can scratch it? Why not just introduce me to those things to begin with? Right now, the promise of "things will get better" is simply not enough for me.
It's hard to say. When first started playing I got to level 30 and recall still not being sure I was having much fun yet, but after paying 150 for founders I was motivated to dig a little bit deeper.
At that point I hooked up with my large corporate guild and changed up my playing style, still doing quests, but putting more focus in farming, helping the guild set up the guild villlage on the northlands, did more mining and stuff, and found the game play to open up quite a bit more.
I really started to enjoy the game at this point, and thought I'd be playing at launch.
Not wanting to go through the land rush I decided to hold off a bit to see if the craziness would die off, and give Trion a chance to iron out the many issues we've all read about.
I'll agree, it's unfortunate that unless you have someone to help you jump off the quest line the game comes across very badly, and I wish they had designed it differently.
That's why I've said previously, some people won't get it. This is not a reflection on them, rather in the game's design that unless certain events happen based more on luck or choice of guild many will never see the game underneath, where IMO most of the fun lies.
EVE has the same issue btw, many people have to go through multiple trials before finally "getting it", and of course most never do.
Well, that does help. I think they severely hurt the game by limiting chat to level 15. I could have been searching for a guild or people to play with during that time. I'll see if I can find a guild to join.
I agree though, the game is not presented very well at all during the initial levels. If this game offers so much (as I've heard), why did they execute the beginning game so poorly?
It's not just the beginning. The stories and quest dialogue in AA are abysmal - and that continues throughout the game. The fun to be had is primarily player generated... scratch that, it's guild-generated. I found and joined a guild before ever starting and every minute I have played I have been on Teamspeak.
My first 15 levels were spent questing AND working toward common goals. For example, one of the very first things we did was pool resources to get one player in our guild a clipper. Once he had that he became the transport for all of us doing our 4th tradepack run in order to get the free large farm deed which you acquire by going to the other continent. Our game play has always been guild-focused and continues that way.
That makes the banality of the quest stories almost irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
So,
If you are playing ArchAge, it needs you to join in a guild. (SARCASTIC SMILE)
So this game needs a lot of things starting from patron to subscription to guild to grind like a PIG for gold to achieve some gear to "YOU CANNOT BE A CASUAL GAMER" to play ethically where most are hacking it out.
Please enlighten us what else do we need ?
Look dude, if you can't have fun in it, just go away lol. There's no need to play shit you don't enjoy. There are plenty of other games out there. I have fun with my friends and guild. If you don't, why bother?
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I just made it to level 15 and feel absolutely nothing for the game. I am not immersed, I am not compelled, I am not enjoying myself. True, I haven't seen the PVP nor the crafting, but at this point I'm already bored with the experience.
The story is as unengaging as it gets. The quests are paint by number. I've seen people praise this game and others bash it. I guess I just don't get this one.
I constantly feel a "been here; done that" sort of emotion when playing and I find that I am playing for the sake of playing rather than the sake of having fun.
I will try to continue on, but fear I am reaching the point where I may stop.
Do
Not
Solo
If you want to have fun in ArcheAge and really see it for what it is - play actively with a guild of folks that you get along with.
Soloing in ArcheAge would be the same as soloing a group sport - Football, Baseball, Basketball - they all suck when played solo and will give you a very wrong impression about what those sports are about.
A little hard to find a guild when I haven't been able to chat until just hitting 15.
The worst place to find a guild probably is in game. I found mine through the guild recruiting sub-forum here. And chose my server only after I joined them and got to know them a few days before release.
The 1-15 no general chat thing is no big deal if you have guild chat.
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
OP -- It's a good read and it's fair from my experience with the game. I put a lot of hours into it and had some fun, but that was mainly because I had prime land. If not for that, I would not have played nearly as much as I did.
I also agree with other posters that having a guild that you enjoy being a part of and that is active and well organized is a key factor to staying in any mmorpg for a long time. Therefore, people do have different experiences.
In spite of the criticisms of AA, there are a lot of good things that it brings (back?) in to the genre and that I hope other developers/games will iterate and perhaps improve upon.
When I play ESO now, I want to go to my house, but I don't have one. I have to admit, I miss the farmville aspect of AA in my other games, but I don't miss the time sink aspect.
that's why I am not interested you have do boring grinding before nice content,all I want is to do boss fights or dungeons with others this is another tera.
I have no idea how I'm going to get from 30 - 50. The leveling through questing slowed to a crawl at 20. I have no land, I can't farm. Don't have enough money to buy mats to craft, can't farm to craft. Don't have mats for a trade pack. No sure what the hell I should be doing at this point.
Edit: Great review OP! It was very informative for us newbies.
Quit, Uninstall, Etc
Even if you go to max level the way I did, there is absolutely nothing.
Play something that makes you enjoy an Mmo.
Trust Me, this is one HELL of an mmo.
In terms of the negative vibes I got from this game , it surpasses all other negative F2P experiences.
Just because you found nothing at max level - that's on you, its your personal experience it is not a factual statement - its completely wrong in reality.
Ive been at 50 for weeks (not gonna count 50# in alpha and in Korea) - still haven't scratched the surface.
Getting to 50 is trivial, also Auroria is not even opened yet - which is a huge part of end game content.
Grouping and PvPing, that is the end game ?
What is the point ?
So. at the end game or at some point of time the whole ArcheAge game-space will be players shouting for party to PvP and it does not stop here ... you even have multiple characters / classes who logs around Safe Statue (NUI) and we have MOBA at end game.
Thanks for letting us know that it is just MOBA there at the end ... just before auroria opens up ...
I will rather play a way more polished and better MOBA ...
Cheers Sourajit Nandi
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Originally posted by TiamatRoar Either join a guild in AA or leave before you've wasted too much time and/or money. You won't get anywhere later on without one (even crafting anything high end is a group effort later on) and even if you hypothetically DID get anywhere without one, what would you DO later on? AA's end game is PvP, primarily GROUP PvP, so even if you magically solo'd yourself to the best gear and cap (hypothetically, because it's not going to happen in reality), you'd still have nothing to DO later on while solo.
it's left ...
Oh but occasional online at low level areas and kill a few and go offline ...
Oh enlighten others even remotely trying to waste their time about the sorry state of this nearly GHOST-TOWN state ...
Oh I forgot, there will be a post finding some positive side to this game and I will have to counter spell reality again ...
Oh snap ... Sarcasm !!!
Everything sells at auction house, thus the best gear will also and thus the PLAY TO WIN scenario just needs some money.
Cheers Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
Originally posted by TiamatRoar Either join a guild in AA or leave before you've wasted too much time and/or money. You won't get anywhere later on without one (even crafting anything high end is a group effort later on) and even if you hypothetically DID get anywhere without one, what would you DO later on? AA's end game is PvP, primarily GROUP PvP, so even if you magically solo'd yourself to the best gear and cap (hypothetically, because it's not going to happen in reality), you'd still have nothing to DO later on while solo.
it's left ...
Oh but occasional online at low level areas and kill a few and go offline ...
Oh enlighten others even remotely trying to waste their time about the sorry state of this nearly GHOST-TOWN state ...
Oh I forgot, there will be a post finding some positive side to this game and I will have to counter spell reality again ...
Oh snap ... Sarcasm !!!
Lol ghost town? If you are going to lie at least make it somewhat believable..
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Sorry if you are talking about doing quests at level 15 ...this game isn't for you ,now if you were talking about fishing, farming. trade runs .treasure hunting and exploration you might have had a chance .
Bottom left? lol
I don't believe that for a second, but by all means, carry on. It's your fantasy after all.
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Same happened to ESO when released but opposite and tile were same...
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Before release they bashed game badly and after realease after some time came out one more review well ESO isn't that but after all still ESO lost lot of player base because of mmorpg and other scum websites
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you implying I am playing it wrong?
I understand that I haven't scratched the surface, but how long do I need to go before I can scratch it? Why not just introduce me to those things to begin with? Right now, the promise of "things will get better" is simply not enough for me.
Actually, yes, he is implying you are playing it wrong. While the game clearly steers new users into the quest tree, it probably is the worst way to start because as you have observed, the questing is pretty bland and uninspiring and definitely not the game's long suit.
Only quests many folks bother with is the mainline in order to get the farms, gliders etc, and otherwise they level up in other ways such as mining or crafting.
While my first 50 was done almost exclusively through questing, some of my alts I got to level 25 pretty much only mining ore and stone and refining them. Was a bit weird to go back to the mainline quests and totally roll them due to being over leveled, (however I was undergeared and had to buy stuff of AH)
It's hard to say. When first started playing I got to level 30 and recall still not being sure I was having much fun yet, but after paying 150 for founders I was motivated to dig a little bit deeper.
At that point I hooked up with my large corporate guild and changed up my playing style, still doing quests, but putting more focus in farming, helping the guild set up the guild villlage on the northlands, did more mining and stuff, and found the game play to open up quite a bit more.
I really started to enjoy the game at this point, and thought I'd be playing at launch.
Not wanting to go through the land rush I decided to hold off a bit to see if the craziness would die off, and give Trion a chance to iron out the many issues we've all read about.
I'll agree, it's unfortunate that unless you have someone to help you jump off the quest line the game comes across very badly, and I wish they had designed it differently.
That's why I've said previously, some people won't get it. This is not a reflection on them, rather in the game's design that unless certain events happen based more on luck or choice of guild many will never see the game underneath, where IMO most of the fun lies.
EVE has the same issue btw, many people have to go through multiple trials before finally "getting it", and of course most never do.
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Well, that does help. I think they severely hurt the game by limiting chat to level 15. I could have been searching for a guild or people to play with during that time. I'll see if I can find a guild to join.
I agree though, the game is not presented very well at all during the initial levels. If this game offers so much (as I've heard), why did they execute the beginning game so poorly?
Sieges aren't in-game yet. They're coming in the upcoming update, though. You can't review something that doesn't exist. ...unless you're playing the Korean or Russian version of AA, obviously.
That said, if you're playing AA only for the sieges, you're gonna be dissappointed. From what I know, there's like... one a week, and you BID on it so only one (rich. ...and not rich, anymore, after paying the bid!) attacking guild gets to partake in it (as well as the defenders). (well, four attacking guilds vs four defenders at best. There are four castles). The defenders can bid too so on some weeks there will be no sieging at all. From what I know, at least. I could be wrong on this one.
This is a great review! +1
It's not just the beginning. The stories and quest dialogue in AA are abysmal - and that continues throughout the game. The fun to be had is primarily player generated... scratch that, it's guild-generated. I found and joined a guild before ever starting and every minute I have played I have been on Teamspeak.
My first 15 levels were spent questing AND working toward common goals. For example, one of the very first things we did was pool resources to get one player in our guild a clipper. Once he had that he became the transport for all of us doing our 4th tradepack run in order to get the free large farm deed which you acquire by going to the other continent. Our game play has always been guild-focused and continues that way.
That makes the banality of the quest stories almost irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
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A little hard to find a guild when I haven't been able to chat until just hitting 15.
So,
If you are playing ArchAge, it needs you to join in a guild. (SARCASTIC SMILE)
So this game needs a lot of things starting from patron to subscription to guild to grind like a PIG for gold to achieve some gear to "YOU CANNOT BE A CASUAL GAMER" to play ethically where most are hacking it out.
Please enlighten us what else do we need ?
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No one wants to solo a mmo. Everyone has better options to solo. However if the game lacks real players then you just solo. Joining a show-off guild which has a few from 2096 alts online and not being able to make or give or help out in any game action forces you to solo.
I soloed till highest level and sorry to say it is a solo game after all unless and untill you are forced to party to farm something in PK areas.
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I have no idea how I'm going to get from 30 - 50. The leveling through questing slowed to a crawl at 20. I have no land, I can't farm. Don't have enough money to buy mats to craft, can't farm to craft. Don't have mats for a trade pack. No sure what the hell I should be doing at this point.
Edit: Great review OP! It was very informative for us newbies.
Quit, Uninstall, Etc
Even if you go to max level the way I did, there is absolutely nothing.
Play something that makes you enjoy an Mmo.
Trust Me, this is one HELL of an mmo.
In terms of the negative vibes I got from this game , it surpasses all other negative F2P experiences.
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Sourajit Nandi
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I was just thinking.......
Where do heavy RNG mechanics fit into this picture?
Look dude, if you can't have fun in it, just go away lol. There's no need to play shit you don't enjoy. There are plenty of other games out there. I have fun with my friends and guild. If you don't, why bother?
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The worst place to find a guild probably is in game. I found mine through the guild recruiting sub-forum here. And chose my server only after I joined them and got to know them a few days before release.
The 1-15 no general chat thing is no big deal if you have guild chat.
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OP -- It's a good read and it's fair from my experience with the game. I put a lot of hours into it and had some fun, but that was mainly because I had prime land. If not for that, I would not have played nearly as much as I did.
I also agree with other posters that having a guild that you enjoy being a part of and that is active and well organized is a key factor to staying in any mmorpg for a long time. Therefore, people do have different experiences.
In spite of the criticisms of AA, there are a lot of good things that it brings (back?) in to the genre and that I hope other developers/games will iterate and perhaps improve upon.
When I play ESO now, I want to go to my house, but I don't have one. I have to admit, I miss the farmville aspect of AA in my other games, but I don't miss the time sink aspect.
Grouping and PvPing, that is the end game ?
What is the point ?
So. at the end game or at some point of time the whole ArcheAge game-space will be players shouting for party to PvP and it does not stop here ... you even have multiple characters / classes who logs around Safe Statue (NUI) and we have MOBA at end game.
Thanks for letting us know that it is just MOBA there at the end ... just before auroria opens up ...
I will rather play a way more polished and better MOBA ...
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Sourajit Nandi
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it's left ...
Oh but occasional online at low level areas and kill a few and go offline ...
Oh enlighten others even remotely trying to waste their time about the sorry state of this nearly GHOST-TOWN state ...
Oh I forgot, there will be a post finding some positive side to this game and I will have to counter spell reality again ...
Oh snap ... Sarcasm !!!
Everything sells at auction house, thus the best gear will also and thus the PLAY TO WIN scenario just needs some money.
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Sourajit Nandi
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Once An Addict Always An Addict .
Lol ghost town? If you are going to lie at least make it somewhat believable..