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Underwhelming community
I tried Archeage for about the past week. Started a Firran, ran the main quest line and a number of the side quests along the way and levelled slowly but continually for about 3 days playing time. I am not a race-to-the-endgame type of player - I have done my time in major raiding guilds and "played professionally" for long enough to want to enjoy a game as I play it, not when I am finished. On the fifth day I deleted the game from my system.
The game mechanics were ok, there was a tendency for the quests to get beyond the abilities of a caster and require a bit of side-levelling activity before continuing with the main, but nothing too bad or really too far out of the ordinary.
The real issue was the other players. While they may have been "rushing to get to the endgame" or whatever, I have never seen so universal a collective "me first" attitude in any gaming community, including some of the most competitive. To clear a room or an area only to have someone run up and kill a boss or required mob was not only common, but would happen 5 - 6-7 times in a row on each boss mob. Training adds to another player, attacking quest mobs, and general ass-hattery was so common I finally gave it up in disgust.
It is sad when a game fails, not on the strength of its mechanics, quests, difficulty or anything else that is remotely related to the game itself, but because it is populated, at least at the beginning levels, by the worst the gaming community has to offer.
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Aloha Mr Hand !
The trick to this is you have to get to level 50. It will suck bad till you get there. But hey its not about the journey ( with this game ) its about the destination.
Oh and do note it is free to play. People like me get to play.
It wont get any better at higher levels. Just letting you know.
F2P PvP game is full of a$$hats? Who'da thunk...
Sorry OP. I've turned off all chat except guild and party, so I don't have to live with all the reminders of how awful human beings can be to each other.
My Guild is awesome, really chill. Most people i meet running tradepacks or grouping in hasla with have been perfectly ok to play with... I have seen worse.
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
Oh bullshit .....this is the very same style of community as played Daoc...Shadowbane ,,,,WOW.... Age of Conan.....Warhammer....SWTOR.....Terra.... Wildstar .....and ESO
Possibly Tera, but not the others. Tera was horrible. I was stoked about the release, bought the game, and within 2 days I couldn't handle the community. I have played the others you have mentioned and they are no where near it.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Not just F2P, but one that is mainly a PvP game. Talk about having the deck stacked against you.
Tera had the worst.
you make it sound nightmarish!!!
I must protest! In the name of all DaoCers (yes, I am that presumptuous) we hated each other, we called each other names that shall and only can be forgotten and forgiven by time but we never ever were toxic! It is one thing to hate someone because she or he is/was Albion or especially Hibernian, everyone knows that those are just idiots( http://www.koboldin.de/demhibbies.swf ) but we never ever attacked someone based on real life countries or believes.
ODIIIINs!!!
OP you've obviously never played APB.
Try playing a game where people actually thinks they are gangster and tries to talk in a gangster accent. Now THAT'S bad community.
I couldn't take the community. I created a new chat tab and haven't seen Faction chat since the first day. It fixes a lot of the problem.
I've talked to a few nice people, but it's rare.
One of the main things I don't like about the game is that faction means so little. I've been killed way more by green players than I have by red, maybe 10 to 1.
The Green players that kill Green are also the ones that I find to be exceptionally rude in a Sea of Rudess.
On the forums Darkfall was the king of rude, but in game I'd bet 80% of Darkfall were OK people that just happened to kill you. I made friends with people that killed me a lot in DF. In AA they're disgusting and rude nearly every time. I just can't understand the joy they get from being like that.
Asdar
Name one game that has a good community that EVERYONE agrees has a good community. My bet is NO ONE can name one without it being refuted immediately. And no, we can't use the wayback machine and talk about what was... we're talking today's games, right now... log in... what do you get?
The OP would have really cried the first time a player in his own faction ganked him for no other reason than they can. This game was never for him... mainly because he was looking for Hello Kitty Online community and realized he just walked into a biker's bar.
Oh boy wait until OP finds Hasla.
To be fair, Tera's community was only horrible until the free month was over, as far as I remember.
I can fly higher than an aeroplane.
And I have the voice of a thousand hurricanes.
Hurt - Wars
Simple measures to dealing with pvp games. Especially those with an innate ability to manipulate mechanics into trolling.
Ignore the general idiocy.
Don't take every defeat or death like it's the end of the world, it's not. For a pvp game, archeage as pathetic death consequences. At most, you lose some in-game cash that's easily replaced, and some time.
If you can manage it, don't just fight back, be dominant. If you're being camped, call in friends. Dominate them, and they will lose satisfaction when the tables turn.
If someone is nice and good to you, don't make it a passing friendship, invest in them. You won't find a lot of these people. Not because there are not a lot, but because people suck. The people I speak of sucking, it includes me, you reading, anyone. We don't all get a long. Never will, so find the people you can get on with. Hell, my neighbor in archeage is enemy faction, they turned out to be a good guy. We trade, i've helped them/they helped me, and we talk often.
Lastly, if you don't like losing ANYTHING AT ALL when dying, or you can't STAND being trolled even on occasion, don't do it to yourself, you don't need to beat your head in trying to get into something you won't like just because it sounded good at a time. (Note, occasional trolling means roughly a few times a day.)
You know, the symptoms here are not only attributed to the f2p players. While they probably contribute the greatest to a "community" in decline, they are not the only ones at fault. There is also something of the herd mentality going on as well. There are so many people just trying to get to 50..trying to get land...trying to farm [insert area/item here] and do it quickly, that they just do not think of the social impact. Even within my own gaming guild that I have played with for some time in many other games, I have had veterans ignore what use to be common. The idea of just OFFERING to help a guildie level seems absent. And at times, even asking for help goes unanswered. Not all the time but enough that it in sorely noticable will things like this happen. And again, it is for the reasons I just mentioned.
Frankly, AA is not any worse then any other MMO I have played recently regarding community. It just suffers the same issues of society at large.
Let's party like it is 1863!
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