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[Award] General: The Great MMO Face-Off of 2014 - Semifinals

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  • OrtwigOrtwig Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    I have voted once.  One thing probably folks are not considering is that there are a LOT of overseas TSW fans.  Remember, Funcom is based in Norway, and there are quite a few European players that will come a visit here late during US Eastern time.   So, you may be underestimating our "little" community just a bit.  ;)
     
    The community is actively discouraging duplicate accounts for purposes of voting, but there many be many folks new to mmorpg.com
  • OrtwigOrtwig Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Originally posted by Despair9

    However it's pretty obvious that TSW is getting some serious mass voting going around. Perhaps that is not that bad at all, just proves how involved they are into their game. Denying is not helping anyone really, there are probably many people mass voting on ESO side aswell. But lets not get clouded, if ESO playerbase was mass voting this hard as STW, they would be ahead by a big margin already.

    Everyone seems to have forgotten about TSW Europe.

  • Kemosabe-TBCKemosabe-TBC Member Posts: 58
    Originally posted by Despair9

    However it's pretty obvious that TSW is getting some serious mass voting going around. Perhaps that is not that bad at all, just proves how involved they are into their game. Denying is not helping anyone really, there are probably many people mass voting on ESO side aswell.

    It's pretty obvious because...? I have never seen a single person encouraging mass voting, and almost all the people I've seen posting here on MMORPG.com have old accounts (not that it means anything since most people aren't posting here)

    Anyway, I expect MMORPG.com to have much more knowledge about who is "mass voting" than we do.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    LOTRO?  Really?
  • Kemosabe-TBCKemosabe-TBC Member Posts: 58
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins
    LOTRO?  Really?

    lol, your nickname seems appropriate :p Anyway, I've never actually played LOTRO so I wouldn't know

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Kemosabe-TBC
    Originally posted by Despair9

    However it's pretty obvious that TSW is getting some serious mass voting going around. Perhaps that is not that bad at all, just proves how involved they are into their game. Denying is not helping anyone really, there are probably many people mass voting on ESO side aswell.

    It's pretty obvious because...? I have never seen a single person encouraging mass voting, and almost all the people I've seen posting here on MMORPG.com have old accounts (not that it means anything since most people aren't posting here)

    Anyway, I expect MMORPG.com to have much more knowledge about who is "mass voting" than we do.

    Some people - you, for example - just need to chill. Although, I suppose, it's pretty freaking obvious who plays the conspiracy MMO.

     

    It's just a fun little popularity vote - it means absofuckinglutely nothing, Anyone pointing fingers and claiming that the other side has the most evil fans comes across as a bit deranged, quite frankly.

     

     

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  • JomsvikingJomsviking Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins
    LOTRO?  Really?

    LotRO is very RP friendly and has a large RP community. RPers tend to be very loyal and very passionate about their game of choice since they become very heavily invested in their characters.

  • Mrgrey02Mrgrey02 Member Posts: 14

    Despair9, after reading your contributions to this thread and some of the baseless allegations made,

    ..... might I interest you in a TSW 30 day trail key?  I think you would enjoy playing an illumanati character :)

  • JomsvikingJomsviking Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Kemosabe-TBC
     

     

     

     

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  • VikestartVikestart Member Posts: 14

    Stop throwing around accusations of multiple accounts scam and whatnot!

    Noone in the TSW community has encouraged this. Only because you think it's strange, unfair or unwarranted that your game is losing doesn't mean the competition is up to something fishy ;)

    The only ones that can tell if mass voting with multiple accounts is going on is the staff of MMORPG.

    Thank you.

  • JomsvikingJomsviking Member Posts: 32
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  • Tierney11290Tierney11290 Member UncommonPosts: 6

    With The Secret World being so far into the competition, I decided to give it a look. Sorry, but that game looks awful. Grahpics are meh, animation are even worse than Skyrim's (and of course ESO's), and the gameplay looks extremely bland. No wonder it's Buy 2 Play now. I'm not even sure how that game got as far as it did.

    If the story is good, then that's one thing going for it, but not enough to get me to play. I doubt it could be much better than any of SWTOR's storylines. I know youtube videos can't give you the full experience for a game, but it can give enough as to whether or not it's worth playing. And TSW is NOT worth playing imo.

  • galjingaljin Member UncommonPosts: 15

    This is ridiculous, how can there be so much people that completly ignore the goods and bads of each game here?

     

    ESO demostrated being a bad game, from a bad company, with a bad customer service. The game itself is a bad joke compared to Skyrim, it's as if they made 5 steps back and even then all the other games from the elder scrolls franchise are better. 

     

    TSW is a relatively new game that jumped out of nowhere in a ultra low populated genre (horror) that actually made some sense (it did spook me from time to time...), graphics cannot be compared to ESO since they didnt even care about giving armors a model, stuff like that is like painting the skin of the character and the effects are terrible and lacking, i've seen better mods for skyrim that would make ESO look indie. Back to TSW, they got a quite unique "leveling" system, since its like a sandbox; the storyline is really really good with amazing voicing; questing in TSW can be from simple for newbies and classic players to Pentagon hackers and analists... riddles, codes, decoding, investigating pictures, looking for messages, details, everything, the love the developers gave TSW is off the charts. 

     

    LOTRO is an ancient game, we agree to that, is a good game, we can agree to that too. What else do we have here? One of the best classic MMORPGs out there, based on one of the most successful fantasy novels of all time that has been the father of all the other fantasy stories out there. Yeah good and all but the game itself? Can you really compare that to the constant evolution of a pure themepark/sandbox game like EVE? 

     

    LOTRO is simple: create a character, level up, go dungeons and get some gear, do end level things like more dungeons or pvp, THE END. Graphics are meh, effects are meh, quests are ridiculously basic and square shaped, its monotonous (like most classic rpgs). Recommended if you are a fan of tolkien... but then again it isnt that precise... the game mechanics are simple, its an old game that remained old. I dont even know why WoW isnt here instead of LOTRO (Thank you fans and haters for your terrible criticizing skills).

    EVE is not that simple: create a character, find whatever you want to do (mining, pvp, missions, factional war, manufacturing, industry, planet industry, stealing, scamming, exploring, analizing, hacking, building), try to find whatever you prefer and specialize in one of tha many things the previously mentioned things are divided in, find your style, rank up the skills needed, after 6 months trying all that stuff you are still a newbie in the game. 

    The content is humongous, the system and mechanics are carefully made to avoid silly exploits or unbalances, it's one server with the unique feature of time dilation (which reduces the time scale to lessen the effect of lag in the server, allowing hundreds of players in one place doing something without making it crash).

    There is a university there even, you want to play casual? You can. You want to learn about the game mechanics and become a boss on it? You can. And after that? After a year and half playing? You still havent reached 50% of the content (that is... if you are not a genious businessman... then you only need the time for the skills). You can go to other space completly owned by players, ran by players, ruled by players, built by players. In more than 5000 solar systems.

    "bad" side? its p2p, but after a while it wont really matter since you can buy an item ingame with ingame currency that gives you play time, so once you spent some time in there you can just buy that and forget about the monthly fees. (For those cheapskates out there, just pay one month, grab the 21 days trial and you'll be fine for one of those items at once just playing, plenty of time to enjoy the game itself aswell)

    Now please tell me how LOTRO can be better than EVE. Please i want an argument telling me the exact points where any feature in LOTRO surpasses those of EVE. 

     

    Please people... dont be fans or haters, just try to vote for the best game out there, not for something you prefer because of no reason at all. WoW has been the king of MMORPGs for many many years, it evolved, it changed, it was amazing. Yet people hate it because of that. I dont really get it... 

     

    @Poll makers: Tip: never EVER, try to compare a classic rpg with a sandbox rpg. They are in completly different categories. It's like comparing a dog with a chair. And will only make haters jump out of their little holes to blabber incoherent stuff they dont know anything about.

     
  • JomsvikingJomsviking Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by Tierney11290

    With The Secret World being so far into the competition, I decided to give it a look. Sorry, but that game looks awful. Grahpics are meh, animation are even worse than Skyrim's (and of course ESO's), and the gameplay looks extremely bland. No wonder it's Buy 2 Play now. I'm not even sure how that game got as far as it did.

    If the story is good, then that's one thing going for it, but not enough to get me to play. I doubt it could be much better than any of SWTOR's storylines. I know youtube videos can't give you the full experience for a game, but it can give enough as to whether or not it's worth playing. And TSW is NOT worth playing imo.

    Did you see this one?

    It was made by an end-game player completely from in-game play and cut-scenes - no promo trailer stuff. At about 3min 40 sec in you can see a bit of an El Dorado PvP match. this is pretty much how it looks once you've gotten into the game somewhat.

     

  • Shadester9Shadester9 Member Posts: 3

    Heh..I find the accusation of devs e-mailing players for support on this vote for TSW hysterical, let alone trying to bring up a disqualification rule by spreading those bullshit rumors around. The only e-mail TSW has sent out is a promotion for their current Christmas event which has absolutely nothing to do with this vote.

     

    TSW is by far the most underrated MMO I have played to date. The effort put in from FC and the quality of the content is above and beyond what people give them credit for, especially given that the competition was already a very successful and popular franchise as someone else has stated. People were excited and bought ESO just because it was an Elder Scrolls game due to the success of its predecessors while TSW has not had that privilege and it still impressed me more than most MMO's today, and this is coming from someone who has played several games professionally at the higher end of things.

     

    It's going to be a tight competition regardless, but my vote goes to TSW.

  • CultOfXtcCultOfXtc Member Posts: 378

    Tierney11290

    You post history indicates a pure love for ESO no wonder you are trashing TSW here.

    I'm not going to trash another game, vote for what you want.  Either way people if you want to give TSW a (real) chance send me a PM for a guest key and once in game /tell Cultofxtc and i'll help you out/around.

    TSW is a hard game to start with as it is very diferent from other games, it does have one of the best communities anywhere though.

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  • CultOfXtcCultOfXtc Member Posts: 378
    TSW Devs did not email anyone, rumour spread on ESO forums.

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  • OriousOrious Member UncommonPosts: 548

    TSW is the best MMORPG-Horror game.

    ESO is the best <1 year old MMORPG ever created.

     

    I'm glad TSW is in the Top 4. Actually ALL of these top 4 is what I wanted it to be in the end. I could care less who wins, they're all MMOs that are vastly different than each other. However, I think the ones that are still P2P should win. You guys really need to look at each game and think about what they've accomplished during the time they've been live. If you haven't played one of these games, you really can't decide on which is better.  For EVE, check out the most recent expansion video (it literally teared me up!). For TSW I think someone posted one already. For LOTRO, they had a new updated as well with new videos. For ESO check out any HD Cyrodiil stream, champion system/justice system videos. Honestly I think the Justice System beats out any system LOTRO or TSW has. EVE is a fleshed out sandbox, it's got way more systems than most games can even hope for. 

    In terms of scope of the game I think EVE has the greatest scope of gameplay (Sandbox has it all including an intense economy game), followed by ESO (great PvP AND PvE AND Crafting... comparison to typical TES open-world ness is a niche topic), followed by LOTRO (PvE/Crafting), then TSW (PvE... it doesn't do crafting or PvP well at all... just the interesting missions/quests/dungeons/atmosphere).

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  • VikaernesVikaernes Member UncommonPosts: 10
    I think the community in TSW, not to mention the high level of support the dev team shows for the community, and vice versa makes it worth voting for. Nevermind that it's a superb game, it's a superb experience all around.
  • OriousOrious Member UncommonPosts: 548
    Originally posted by Vikaernes
    I think the community in TSW, not to mention the high level of support the dev team shows for the community, and vice versa makes it worth voting for. Nevermind that it's a superb game, it's a superb experience all around.

    I think every game has "their own" good community. And EVE/ESO/LOTRO/TSW (i think) have all had decent sized updates to their games this year, showing the support from their dev teams. People may poke at the issues with the TSW or ESO forums for comments, but when you have a poll like this... brackets in anything... competition, people tend to put their feet in their mouths and get overly emotional. 

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  • HatkakeHatkake Member Posts: 28
    Originally posted by Iselin

    Lol... maybe you haven't seen the 28 page TSW thread? http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=82958://

    I made that thread. It was made near the start of round 1. It's not the first of its kind. If there isn't a thread up when TSW is in a popularity contest I tend to make one. Or someone else in the community makes one.

    Tomium, one of our community managers, comes in early in the thread with a quip about how AoC also needs some voting love. From there on it's banter and joking and of course celebration when we've "won" in the thread. And also we debate the vitriol and slander that seems to be hurled our way like so much monkey feeces.

    I'd love for "my" game, TSW, to win. But not at any cost. We of the TSW community absolutely reject the notion of making multiple accounts in order to spam vote and we are confident that the moderators here on this forum have enough control over their forums so that any form of foul play can be revealed and dealt with harshly.

    Since TSW has no mandatory subscription it's not uncommon for our players to enjoy other games while also enjoying TSW. Many of the TSW players also enjoy ESO and GW2 and LOTRO and EVE and WOW and everything else. So for us to think of "us and them" is difficult. Because in some regard we are them. For example my cabal (the TSW equivalent of a playerguild) is an over ten year old multigame community. We have people in TSW, FFXIII, GW2, ESO, SWTOR, WOW, COD, boardgames, etc, etc, etc. And our cabal is not that uncommon in that regard.

    ESO is a great game. And all the people I know that play ESO are awesome people. I tried ESO and it wasn't for me. But that does not make it a bad game. And it does not make the people playing that game bad people.

    I hope TSW wins because that is the MMO I like the most. But if we don't win then I will be very proud of making it to the semi finals. When I made that thread back on Dec 4th my hope was that we'd get past round 1. And we did! 

    So congratulations to every winner.

    And a big thank you to everyone that participates!

     

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  • GolarumGolarum Member Posts: 151

    I am surprised to see LOTRO get this far, don't get me wrong, I love the game, been playing it since release, it's just that you're lucky if you see more than 200 players online on a server at peek hours. Didn't know people still like the game!

    Anyways, I truly think that LOTRO is a far superior game to EVE, the latter has a lot of strategy involved, but to me, it's one of the most boring games out there, I just feel that nothing really happens in that game, maybe it's because of how the game is setup.

    As for ESO vs TSW, I like both games and I play them both casually, but ESO to me is more complete as an mmo, and TSW falls a little behind.

    And for people who keep bringing back WoW, I have always said that this game is crap, having the most players doesn't make it better, or even good. I compare it to Walmart, the world's biggest store, but it's still crap. These games deserve to on top.

  • lordstarfoxlordstarfox Member Posts: 5
    Originally posted by Golarum

    I am surprised to see LOTRO get this far, don't get me wrong, I love the game, been playing it since release, it's just that you're lucky if you see more than 200 players online on a server at peek hours. Didn't know people still like the game!

    Anyways, I truly think that LOTRO is a far superior game to EVE, the latter has a lot of strategy involved, but to me, it's one of the most boring games out there, I just feel that nothing really happens in that game, maybe it's because of how the game is setup.

    As for ESO vs TSW, I like both games and I play them both casually, but ESO to me is more complete as an mmo, and TSW falls a little behind.

    And for people who keep bringing back WoW, I have always said that this game is crap, having the most players doesn't make it better, or even good. I compare it to Walmart, the world's biggest store, but it's still crap. These games deserve to on top.

    Its popularity/hate contest. Tons of people hate WoW,but most are pretty neutral about LotR.

    Same goes for TSW vs ESO,we(tsw) are being accused of cheating,but i think its more of the fact that ESO has haters  that vote for tsw instead. If it were just  ESO community and TSW community voting TSW would lose easily due to sheer size differences of the player bases.

    PS,false accusations can backfire.I have been intrigued about ESO (phasing and lack of trial are holding me back),but this is leaving really negative image about the community.

  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    Where can i see the previous face-offs?

    EVE > LOTRO; ESO > TSW.

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  • GolarumGolarum Member Posts: 151
    Originally posted by lordstarfox
    Originally posted by Golarum

    I am surprised to see LOTRO get this far, don't get me wrong, I love the game, been playing it since release, it's just that you're lucky if you see more than 200 players online on a server at peek hours. Didn't know people still like the game!

    Anyways, I truly think that LOTRO is a far superior game to EVE, the latter has a lot of strategy involved, but to me, it's one of the most boring games out there, I just feel that nothing really happens in that game, maybe it's because of how the game is setup.

    As for ESO vs TSW, I like both games and I play them both casually, but ESO to me is more complete as an mmo, and TSW falls a little behind.

    And for people who keep bringing back WoW, I have always said that this game is crap, having the most players doesn't make it better, or even good. I compare it to Walmart, the world's biggest store, but it's still crap. These games deserve to on top.

    Its popularity/hate contest. Tons of people hate WoW,but most are pretty neutral about LotR.

    Same goes for TSW vs ESO,we(tsw) are being accused of cheating,but i think its more of the fact that ESO has haters  that vote for tsw instead. If it were just plain ESO community vs TSW community voting TSW would lose easily due to sheer size of the players bases.

    True!!

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