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Where's the big announcement DMKano?
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Oh the news is coming - I made the thread.
ESO is going B2P - this you can take to the bank - 100% certain of this as I wouldnt have made the thread otherwise.
The reason why - console launch would go very badly with subscriptions, so they will switch to B2P model.
All of you calling me names now are going to be eating those words soon - I will be looking forward to your apologies
He said BTP not FTP
There's always a sub due to be paid... week one through four of a month it doesn't matter. Considering that what you said makes little sense. You say it like everyone pays their sub on the first of the month.
What are you basing your inevitable F2P change on? As well as why it would be naive to not believe it? Because your guts say so?
I personally don't believe anything, as anything could happen, could go F2P could go B2P, could remain as is...Who knows besides those in control of it...
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New idea for a forum rule:
If you are going to post about inside information you must name the contact by full name. If this cannot be provided, then you are banned. For life.
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Thank you,
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All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
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exactly. And he's right.
Even as I said, unless one is on the "inside" and knows for sure that everything is in place for an announcement, it's too risky to make a statement based on something that "a friend" told you.
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Calling out this guy pretty much results in a reported posting and a ban. Enjoy yours
Yep.../nods in agreement
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
John Lennon
That depends, if there is a cash shop, then its just a F2P game with a box price, true B2P, there is no cash shop.
The only thing that makes sense about what the announcement might be is that the game will no longer require a monthly subscription. It is the only thing I can see that will make people happy who are not currently subbed.
When they removed the 6 month sub option, I thought that does not mean it will go F2P as other F2P MMOs have 6 month options, like SWTOR, but then that is because the game is known as F2P and is the customers choice. If they plan on removing the subscription within 6 months, and people still can buy the 6 month sub, then some will be unhappy if would have chosen not to keep subbing, if they remove the subscription requirement.
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Admission is not the same as confession.
You make a huge leap there.
Considering many left due to the veteran grind, the new systems they've come up with to replace it should qualify there..
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
That sounds more like a Bioware announcement
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Like the poster you replied to, implied admission does not mean what you think it means.
Implied admission would apply if you could present an evidence, ie. presenting relevant document or communication implying shift in ESO business model. If this evidence is not denied by the other party, implied admission would be assumed - such evidence would be accepted as admitted by both parties. Note, it relates strictly to evidence, not guilt.
In no way it means that every rumor and non-sense thrown around that isn't officially denied can be taken as true, which is being falsely proposed here.
Well if it happens it happens. It was worth it to call him out on his post. I mean really what impact does a ban have my life? Do they post news here that I can't read from many many other sources? Can I not still view the site? What's not to enjoy?
So starting the post was useless.
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Why do you say that? I don't see how you got that from my last reply.
Well, for one if you get banned it does nothing for you or anyone else. Calling another forum member out in this way makes you look somewhat foolish. A simple PM to him would have done just as good imho. So, the post is pretty much useless.
edit: I'm also sorry if I confused post or reply with the entire subject.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
-Personally, I am sure ESO will be B2P very soon, and I actually believed the post about a "big announcment" (although I wasnt certain it had to do with F2P anyhow...)
BUT... People need to own what they said.
In normal cases I would say "calling someone out"is in bad form- In this case, an entire thread about "a friend of mine who works at zenimax said..." should be called out. If it were an opinion or disagreement or something it would be different. This was (evidently) either trolling or rumor mongering but regardless- the information and the entire thread was wrong.
WE DEMAND ANSWERS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to me. I'm glad he did it. Infact I wanted too, but I have too many infractions as it is for calling games out. Odds are since he is a new guy he'll get a warning. Also he gets much props from me and I'm sure others.
There is zero evidence for a switch to a free box - microtransaction model. Zero. The claims are about whether there is a switch to a paid box + DLC / no sub model tied to the console release.
I sympathize with the claim that they could address this - except that the people pushing it would not believe any answer that didn't match their prejudices. What are they supposed to do - deny that there is any prospect that they will ever change their payment model? That's ridiculous for any online game. If they say "no plans at this time" people will trumpet that they didn't close the door. There is literally nothing that they can say that will quench things.
I also dislike the promotion of rumor-mongering, because there are people tied to competing games, either as employees or players who've committed a lot of money or time. And these people have a stake in promoting false rumors about competitors. Kano talks like a Trion employee about Archeage - I suppose that it's possible he's just someone who has sunk hundreds of hours into playing it or has a lot of in-game wealth. But, in either case, he is clearly trying to harm the prospects of a competing game by spreading rumors about it. And I wish that this site was more aggressive about sanctioning that.
We're not talking about every rumor. It has been documented in forums of players asking if the game is going F2P or B2P because of the removal of the 6 month payment option. The response has been a re-post of their current pay model. A reasonable person would expect a posted reply of 'No, we have no plans of going either F2P or B2P.' as a direct response to the questions as have been given in the past when such questions were asked. If that person did not receive such a response it is believe to be an implied admission.
I think that because this is not a court of law proving guilt is not at issue here.
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Wide spread or "hot" rumor is still a rumor, even the well documented one