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[Column] Crowfall: The 3 Most Exciting Reveals This Week

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Crowfall's big reveals this week include a Kickstarter campaign and much more information on how the game will set itself apart from the current crop of MMOs. In this article, I take a look at my three favorite tidbits from this infolanche and how much they appeal to me as a potential player.

Read more of Shawn Schuster's Crowfall: The 3 Most Exciting Reveals This Week.

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  • will75will75 Member UncommonPosts: 365

    Shocker another crowfall article.

    You guys don't hide the PR campaign do ya?

  • JalitanJalitan Member UncommonPosts: 104
    They can talk about all the flare they added all they want, it is still a glorified MOBA. Their only chance is to steal some players from that genre to keep this game going. They should focus on attracting them instead of the RPG crowd because they will end up giving you bad press when they see what the game is versus this marketing hype.
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by will75

    Shocker another crowfall article.

    You guys don't hide the PR campaign do ya?

    If CU payed they would have an article too. Don't worry man CU's time is coming. There's plenty of room for both in the mmorpg pvp void we've been living in. 

  • will75will75 Member UncommonPosts: 365
    Let's set the record straight crowfalls not a mmorpg. it's a mmo

  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829

    3. Your character build can fail

    During Red Thomas' interview with Coleman, the discussion turned to the possibility for a player to gimp themselves. This type of learning has always excited me as I get increasingly frustrated with games that hold your hand. "If you want to be a chef, you probably shouldn’t go for that computer science degree," Red pointed out in his article. "Most games would prevent you from doing something that silly, but then they also would prevent you from finding a cool way to use that computer science degree to make your chef completely unique from every other one out there.  The freedom to fail is an incredibly powerful, and often overlooked, tool.  I’m really glad to see these guys are taking advantage of it."

     

    Very exciting.

    It's not like 90% of today's players don't Google a build and copy paste it or anything. =P

    Even on games like ESO, SWTOR and WoW you see people asking for builds, or Googling them.

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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by will75
    Let's set the record straight crowfalls not a mmorpg. it's a mmo

    I'm sure I can agree with this. What RPG elements are missing in your opinion?

  • ArawulfArawulf Guest WriterMember UncommonPosts: 597
    Originally posted by will75

    Shocker another crowfall article.

    You guys don't hide the PR campaign do ya?

    And you clicked the link and commented - you fell right into their trap! mwahaha!

    In another note, the first two were the most exciting. The fact that you can totally screw up your build means that strategy is as critical to preparing for battle as skill or gear. This is a good thing! Also, the fact that crafting is the core - no big gear drops off NPC's or buying them from NPC vendors - is also a refreshing change. The dying worlds concept is very different than anything I've seen and with the eventual varying of rulesets it could be awesome, but risks being a bit confusing. I think the game is doing some very good things overall so far.

  • will75will75 Member UncommonPosts: 365
    Originally posted by Arawulf
    Originally posted by will75

    Shocker another crowfall article.

    You guys don't hide the PR campaign do ya?

    And you clicked the link and commented - you fell right into their trap! mwahaha!

    In another note, the first two were the most exciting. The fact that you can totally screw up your build means that strategy is as critical to preparing for battle as skill or gear. This is a good thing! Also, the fact that crafting is the core - no big gear drops off NPC's or buying them from NPC vendors - is also a refreshing change. The dying worlds concept is very different than anything I've seen and with the eventual varying of rulesets it could be awesome, but risks being a bit confusing. I think the game is doing some very good things overall so far.

    I agree with you. Both Camelot Unchained and Crowfall are doing some really cool things. I am excited for both, whichever ends up better is the one i'd play the most.

  • will75will75 Member UncommonPosts: 365
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by will75
    Let's set the record straight crowfalls not a mmorpg. it's a mmo

    I'm sure I can agree with this. What RPG elements are missing in your opinion?

    I don't think you can consider it an RPG when the actual "Campaign" resets itself back to "fresh server" status. Don't you agree? I think that kills the RPG immersion factor. No community etc...

  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565

    Frankly, it's because Crowfall is obviously the biggest topic right now in the MMO world, next to GW2's expansion, WoW's patch (stuff coming Monday for that), and FFXIV news (coming later today).  

    CU? I'd LOVE to do some CU coverage. Simple fact is they're not talking much right now while Crowfall IS and people are reading every word.

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  • killion81killion81 Member UncommonPosts: 995
    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    Frankly, it's because Crowfall is obviously the biggest topic right now in the MMO world, next to GW2's expansion, WoW's patch (stuff coming Monday for that), and FFXIV news (coming later today).  

    CU? I'd LOVE to do some CU coverage. Simple fact is they're not talking much right now while Crowfall IS and people are reading every word.

     

    It's also not like any media outlet with the specific goal of covering MMORPGs (with a loose definition covering MMOs as well) could just not cover Crowfall.  It's the game in the MMORPG space with the most hype right now and the one releasing information fairly regularly.

    I only say this in the interest of being fair.  I'm not sure what my personal opinion of the game is yet.  There isn't really enough information.

  • BascolaBascola Member UncommonPosts: 425
    This is a lobby MMO, i wonder how that will do in the long run. I honestly don't see the excitement and need for hype. This sounds pretty boring if you ask me.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719

    "It's like Game of Thrones meets Eve Online"

     

    Like this?

     

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  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    Frankly, it's because Crowfall is obviously the biggest topic right now in the MMO world, next to GW2's expansion, WoW's patch (stuff coming Monday for that), and FFXIV news (coming later today).  

    CU? I'd LOVE to do some CU coverage. Simple fact is they're not talking much right now while Crowfall IS and people are reading every word.

    I figured it was them giving scoops to MMORPG.com in exchange for coverage.

    Regardless of the reasons behind it, I've enjoyed reading about the game. It may just become the first PvP-centric MMO I've touched in years (AA doesn't count, since I never got over level 10). Except for MOBAs and other games that have no PvE of course.

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  • will75will75 Member UncommonPosts: 365
    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    Frankly, it's because Crowfall is obviously the biggest topic right now in the MMO world, next to GW2's expansion, WoW's patch (stuff coming Monday for that), and FFXIV news (coming later today).  

    CU? I'd LOVE to do some CU coverage. Simple fact is they're not talking much right now while Crowfall IS and people are reading every word.

    I see my posts are being observed, that's fine. I have supported both games, one clearly more than another (even though i added a $425 pledge yesterday to crowfall which i may or may not keep depending on what i hear the next 27 days). I never have asked for CU to get more articles or updates. One's trying to fund their kickstarter and one has been in development for quite some time.

    But i can see this is a response to me referring to mmorpg.com from my previous posts. I hope my writing was not too annoying for you to read. That being said, there was a vastly different response to Mark Jacob's kickstarter than from Gordon/Koster/Coleman's Crowfalls. I supposed that's because they reached out to you, maybe Mark didn't, i remember lots of drama, as for the massively OP poll the other day, i guess i can see why. The Camelot Unchained community is pretty rabid and loyal, Sounds like customers i'd like to have in my own business. Which is why "reaching out" and even posting the weekly updates from Camelot unchained's news feed, that don't show up here, is weird to me. But that's me, maybe it's information not worth reporting. /shrug

     

    Maybe i am just delusional, wouldn't be the first time someone's told me that! ;)

  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Originally posted by Iselin

    "It's like Game of Thrones meets Eve Online"

     

    Like this?

     

    If they're fighting, my money's on Jaime. (Everyone knows Sean Bean's characters always die!) image

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by will75
    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    Frankly, it's because Crowfall is obviously the biggest topic right now in the MMO world, next to GW2's expansion, WoW's patch (stuff coming Monday for that), and FFXIV news (coming later today).  

    CU? I'd LOVE to do some CU coverage. Simple fact is they're not talking much right now while Crowfall IS and people are reading every word.

    I see my posts are being observed, that's fine. I have supported both games, one clearly more than another (even though i added a $425 pledge yesterday to crowfall which i may or may not keep depending on what i hear the next 27 days). I never have asked for CU to get more articles or updates. One's trying to fund their kickstarter and one has been in development for quite some time.

    But i can see this is a response to me referring to mmorpg.com from my previous posts. I hope my writing was not too annoying for you to read. That being said, there was a vastly different response to Mark Jacob's kickstarter than from Gordon/Koster/Coleman's Crowfalls. I supposed that's because they reached out to you, maybe Mark didn't, i remember lots of drama, as for the massively OP poll the other day, i guess i can see why. The Camelot Unchained community is pretty rabid and loyal, Sounds like customers i'd like to have in my own business. Which is why "reaching out" and even posting the weekly updates from Camelot unchained's news feed, that don't show up here, is weird to me. But that's me, maybe it's information not worth reporting. /shrug

     

    Maybe i am just delusional, wouldn't be the first time someone's told me that! ;)

    What business are you in and how corrupt are you?

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • will75will75 Member UncommonPosts: 365
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by will75
    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    Frankly, it's because Crowfall is obviously the biggest topic right now in the MMO world, next to GW2's expansion, WoW's patch (stuff coming Monday for that), and FFXIV news (coming later today).  

    CU? I'd LOVE to do some CU coverage. Simple fact is they're not talking much right now while Crowfall IS and people are reading every word.

    I see my posts are being observed, that's fine. I have supported both games, one clearly more than another (even though i added a $425 pledge yesterday to crowfall which i may or may not keep depending on what i hear the next 27 days). I never have asked for CU to get more articles or updates. One's trying to fund their kickstarter and one has been in development for quite some time.

    But i can see this is a response to me referring to mmorpg.com from my previous posts. I hope my writing was not too annoying for you to read. That being said, there was a vastly different response to Mark Jacob's kickstarter than from Gordon/Koster/Coleman's Crowfalls. I supposed that's because they reached out to you, maybe Mark didn't, i remember lots of drama, as for the massively OP poll the other day, i guess i can see why. The Camelot Unchained community is pretty rabid and loyal, Sounds like customers i'd like to have in my own business. Which is why "reaching out" and even posting the weekly updates from Camelot unchained's news feed, that don't show up here, is weird to me. But that's me, maybe it's information not worth reporting. /shrug

     

    Maybe i am just delusional, wouldn't be the first time someone's told me that! ;)

    What business are you in and how corrupt are you?

    Not very, i did pay 60+ k in taxes last year.

  • termsytermsy Member Posts: 100
    Originally posted by Bascola
    This is a lobby MMO, i wonder how that will do in the long run. I honestly don't see the excitement and need for hype. This sounds pretty boring if you ask me.

     

    I guess I'll bite. How is it a lobby game?
     
     
  • sludgebeardsludgebeard Member RarePosts: 788
    Originally posted by will75
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by will75
    Let's set the record straight crowfalls not a mmorpg. it's a mmo

    I'm sure I can agree with this. What RPG elements are missing in your opinion?

    I don't think you can consider it an RPG when the actual "Campaign" resets itself back to "fresh server" status. Don't you agree? I think that kills the RPG immersion factor. No community etc...

    So you mean to say that when I have a group of friends come over and play DnD. That even though they make persistent characters, and at the end of the campaign I wipe my cheesex board clean and start making a new campaign, that's not an RPG?

     

    Sorry but just because the campaign starts over doesn't make it less of an RPG.

  • I'm exciting myself for this game too early. Really looking forward to it.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by jonesing22
    I'm exciting myself for this game too early. Really looking forward to it.

    Too much information image

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

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    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785
    Originally posted by sludgebeard
    Originally posted by will75
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by will75
    Let's set the record straight crowfalls not a mmorpg. it's a mmo

    I'm sure I can agree with this. What RPG elements are missing in your opinion?

    I don't think you can consider it an RPG when the actual "Campaign" resets itself back to "fresh server" status. Don't you agree? I think that kills the RPG immersion factor. No community etc...

    So you mean to say that when I have a group of friends come over and play DnD. That even though they make persistent characters, and at the end of the campaign I wipe my cheesex board clean and start making a new campaign, that's not an RPG?

     

    Sorry but just because the campaign starts over doesn't make it less of an RPG.

    You play the same D&D campaign over and over with the same characters?

    Crowfall resets the map. It's called a campaign, but it's not a campaign in a D&D sense. Otherwise, League of Legends has a 20 minute campaign and then resets when it's over.

    LoL has persistent summoner levels. It's clearly an RPG and not a MOBA. Right? Or Crowfall is exempt from all of this because some people are excited for it. Why can't people be excited for a MMOBA? Does it have to be called a MMORPG for it to be worth playing?

    Crowfall has more in common with LoL than it does with D&D.

  • MavolenceMavolence Member UncommonPosts: 635
    Originally posted by Rusque
    Originally posted by sludgebeard
    Originally posted by will75
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by will75
    Let's set the record straight crowfalls not a mmorpg. it's a mmo

    I'm sure I can agree with this. What RPG elements are missing in your opinion?

    I don't think you can consider it an RPG when the actual "Campaign" resets itself back to "fresh server" status. Don't you agree? I think that kills the RPG immersion factor. No community etc...

    So you mean to say that when I have a group of friends come over and play DnD. That even though they make persistent characters, and at the end of the campaign I wipe my cheesex board clean and start making a new campaign, that's not an RPG?

     

    Sorry but just because the campaign starts over doesn't make it less of an RPG.

    You play the same D&D campaign over and over with the same characters?

    Crowfall resets the map. It's called a campaign, but it's not a campaign in a D&D sense. Otherwise, League of Legends has a 20 minute campaign and then resets when it's over.

    LoL has persistent summoner levels. It's clearly an RPG and not a MOBA. Right? Or Crowfall is exempt from all of this because some people are excited for it. Why can't people be excited for a MMOBA? Does it have to be called a MMORPG for it to be worth playing?

    Crowfall has more in common with LoL than it does with D&D.

    I would definitely say that a MOBA has RPG elements. I wouldn't call it an RPG though. I would definitely consider Crowfall an MMORPG

  • MavolenceMavolence Member UncommonPosts: 635
    Originally posted by Iselin

    "It's like Game of Thrones meets Eve Online"

     

    Like this?

     

    /thread

     

    pretty much nothing better than this

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