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When are MMOs gonna be dead?
mgilbrtsn
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I've heard for years, that MMOs were dying or dead. There are posts, threads, rants, and more dedicated to this symphony of gloomn. Thus far, there are still a lot of MMOs, and many companies are making profits.
There are still games upcoming that are being produced, so the genre won't die until at least 2016. So the question remains, when is the MMO dead. Of course, the discussion will involve a lot of "what is your definition of dead" type of posts. For me it's simple. When people aren't making MMOs, the genre is dead.
Your thoughts or prognostication on what the time of death will or did occur.
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I just saw another post on how the genre is dead, and I would like to know what the criteria is dead for a genre and if people truly believe it has already happened, or what they think the death of the genre will look like when it happens.
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Not trying to re-ignite, fan flames, or get people up in arms. If you look at my posts and threads, you will find that I don't normally go in for that. My intent is to find out what those who think the genre is dead, what is their thoughts are as to why thst is. Also, what those who believe the end is near, what metric they are using to declare it's death.
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This is what a dead game looks like...
It's not there anymore. No server to play on. You attempt to login and it does nothing. You delete the game from your computer and move on.
There have already been MMOs that have died. They aren't there any more. People still talk about them like they were the holy mecca or something. But they only exist in one's memory.
This is a stupid question to ask because you already have an answer... there is a difference between being dead and wishing they were dead. Most people WISH these MMOs were dead.
WISH....if only you had released... ;(
anyway most people who say MMOs are dead, it most likely is to them, but thats it...
That ain't gonna happen for a long time.
But of course it depends on how you define "people". If that just include Activision, EA and Ubisoft then the genre is already dead.
Asian devs like NC soft, PWE and Square-Enix wont stop, MMOs seems more popular there then ever before.
In the west it seems like mostly smaller publishers, independant studios and kickstarter projects are making games for the moment but Microsofts "Undead labs" is an exception there.
It is clearly than MMOs aren't as popular now in Us and EU as they were in 2008 but that doesn't mean the genre will die. We need just a single game that makes a great success and everyone will pour money into the genre again, it have happened before.
But I think it is better for the genre to be low on the radar for a while. Last time the genre was at a pitch was 2001-2004 and a lot of new thinking games were made at that time. We might get less polished games but the genre will hopefully start to evolve faster again when the 3 big western publishers don't call the shots. And maybe we can get a few acceptable games not only focusing on casual players that like a very easy game.
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Sorry, I didn't state my question clearly. I didn't mean the death of a game. The opinions I'm talking about is the death of the MMO genre.
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Most games are moving to online play and veering towards offering MMO features. So I don't think there is any indication that the MMO genre is dying. I'd say it's actually growing.
You could make a case for 2003. Or 2004. Or every year since, of course.
Or (and I'd support this one) you could simply not worry about poking pins in the hyperbole balloons.
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Then my original reply still holds true... when you are dead, the genre is dead. Platform shoes went the way of the do-do but they reemerged... same is true for most anything... it's cyclic. So, the only true answer to your question is that when you die, the genre dies (for you). Your great-great-great-great-great-grandson will still be playing them... albeit nothing like what you'd consider an MMO today.
The death of true mmos? Very soon actually, I'd say within 5-6 years (Since the current ones will have to die off for it to be considered "dead"), best guess anyway. But if you consider the "death" of mmos to mean "new" ones stop being made, then much sooner.
This of course won't mean the death of the "term" "mmo" but then every damn game with online activity calls itself a mmo these days, none of them are, but that doesn't stop them from using the term.
The death of the "mmo virtual world" is long dead and burried. What remains is the incorrectly labeled MOBA wasteland.
To find an intelligent person in a PUG is not that rare, but to find a PUG made up of "all" intelligent people is one of the rarest phenomenons in the known universe.
Er, I'm pretty sure MMORPGs will still be around after he dies...
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For him, it won't be. All things come to an end... and that end comes when you end. Read my other post... it adds the obvious for those that like to nit-pick words to death when they know exactly what is being said.
No one said MMO's are dying - MMORPG's might. Even in the second case people refered to the traditional mmorpg's before the action-generation took over and yes right now this part is in the process of dying. As for MMO's in general they will never die unless something very bad happens to humanity(technology might change the way we experience mmo's but they will stay).
Such a subjective question.
MMOs aren't dead. They are only Dead (or dying) to you. (And those who feel as you do)
You seem to be purposely being an A$$ about this. I assume you are intelligent enough to know what the question is trying to get at. I also must assume that you are capable of contributing if you so desire.
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If your definition is "when MMOs aren't made anymore", I'd say never.
Back in 2000 people were talking about the dead of the point and click adventure games... 15 years later there are lots of them being released all the time on steam. The thing is that they moved from huge budget AAA developers like Sierra and Lucasarts to smaller and more indie developers.
People have talked about the death of the hardcore flight simulators (old timers will remember Falcon 4.0, with a 1000+ pages manual)... yet there are still enough games released that there are still $200+ joystick systems sold.
Since the 80's (when I started gaming) I've remember all sorts of gaming genres, adventure games, flight simulators, space simulators, turn based strategy games, RTS strategy games, 4X games, beat'em ups and so on, being declared either dying or dead and guess what... while it's true that the popularity of different genres rises and lowers with time, they're still being made and released today.
Even more considering that it's sometimes even harder these days to say what is an MMO and what is not, since regular games start getting features that used to be MMO only.
Actually, I'd think it would be a challenge to find a gaming genre that has been popular in the past and where no game has been released in PC or console this last few years.
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