rofl , it feels like Star citiezen is like a huge social experiment , based in how many $ we can get before the masses grab torchs and pitchforks , hope by the time we are in some island that we bought full of girls and "medicines"
I agree that Star Citizen is a social experiment. I hope SC is the start of a revolution in the gaming industry. We - the backers - get the game WE want ... and we put our wallet and personal money where our mouth is.
No more Ubisoft formula like Assassins Creed 21 like game.
No more EA like games with different 48 DLCs (and if you think that was hyperbole, you should check out the number of DLCs for certain games on Steam.... with weapon pack XXX being a single DLC ....).
No more games where 50 % of the project budget goes into marketing .. paid ads in magazines or even TV ads.
No more "add this feature, it does not fit but it will bring us + 1 million copies sold as that other game has it too ...".
No more excellent games being cut down or pushed out too early and buggy by people just looking at their ROI rate and next corporate stock report - or (in truth) their CEO bonus when the quartely target is reached ....
I am a backer and can seen how much of a scam this game is. Their priority is selling virtual ships, not completing a game. Arena Commander is subpar for a module where blantant pay2win is already seen with more expensive ships winning easier and more often. We have grandoise allusions to an ultra game planted in peoples minds their imagination runs wild to make people do unsavory purchases. At every single corner is a way to make you pay for something. Posters, Ships, testing weapons.
You try to argue facts with the community and all you get is rabid spite and hatred. It is a cult where they just type Christ Robberts and chant helmet, helmet, helmet over and over again. The only reason why the fanboi's spout off all their generic "it will be the best" or "xyz feature is planned" is because they have so much invested into this game that they feel the need to lie and spin things to get others to buy it.
If the game is amazing and revolutionary I'd glady eat my words because that is a fantastic game out of all the absymal titles there are. I don't denouce the game through sheer spite, I do it through skepticism and judgements made from previous simliar scenarios.
Originally posted by LeGrosGamerV2 I really want Angry Joe to review Star Citizen, 'cause he'll probably flip out. The game has reach a level of stupidity never before seen in the MMO world. It makes TESO a God send. The game ain't even out yet and it's talking about patches BUT with 300$ ships? It's like anything you wanna do in this game you need to pay. Want to dock? Pay. Want to shoot? Pay. Want to pee? Pay. *Spits* Pathetic.
Do you really think Angry Joe is stupid? Pretty sure he has a grasp on the concept of crowdfunding where (hint) the *crowd* gives the budget to the developer team, not some Wall-Street suit, who's most interested in building a new swimming pool for his beach house.
Besides the only pathetic thing is your epic hyperbole and strawman arguments which are either planned disinformation or just total ignorance of reality.
"not some Wall-Street suit, who's most interested in building a new swimming pool for his beach house."
"Besides the only pathetic thing is your epic hyperbole and strawman arguments which are either planned disinformation or just total ignorance of reality."
Because every investor works on wall street, buys a swimming pool, and a beach house. Talk about hyperbole and ignorance.
I agree that Star Citizen is a social experiment. I hope SC is the start of a revolution in the gaming industry. We - the backers - get the game WE want ... and we put our wallet and personal money where our mouth is.
No more Ubisoft formula like Assassins Creed 21 like game.
No more EA like games with different 48 DLCs (and if you think that was hyperbole, you should check out the number of DLCs for certain games on Steam.... with weapon pack XXX being a single DLC ....).
No more games where 50 % of the project budget goes into marketing .. paid ads in magazines or even TV ads.
No more "add this feature, it does not fit but it will bring us + 1 million copies sold as that other game has it too ...".
No more excellent games being cut down or pushed out too early and buggy by people just looking at their ROI rate and next corporate stock report - or (in truth) their CEO bonus when the quartely target is reached ....
Have fun
You are paying for concepts, not actual interactions with the game. That is the difference.
You're putting money into non-existent art, polygons, and code, without any guarantee that they will ever be rendered in a 3d environment.
This is almost like the story about The Emperor's New Clothes. The clothes are really there, you just have to conceptualize the fabric, the design, the length, and intricacies of the patterns.
i am all about the crowdfunding revolution because it (a) lets smaller devs make a great game for a smaller niche than would be possible with a large corporate backer and (b) because i have found that when you crowdfund a game you get to have a lot of impact on the direction of the game (and this is coming from someone who's never donated more than 50 bucks to a game- i imagine the folks who pay enough to actually meet the devs in person feel even more strongly about this).
but god, man. enough is enough.
I am actually worried that other smaller companies see how much money is literally being thrown at RSI and try to do the same for their game.
I understand that 300 bucks is more to some people than others, but even if you have o problem dropping 300 bucks, keep in mind that your doing so will contribute to more and more 300 dollar offerings.
this is supposed to be a reasonably inexpensive hobby; other than when it's time to upgrade the PC or console i do not see spending any more than roughly 60 bucks on a game. hell, I play a miniatures wargame that costs less than 300 bucks to play, I don't even think i drop more than 300 on magic the gathering in a year and i play in at least 1 tournament a week.
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
i am all about the crowdfunding revolution because it (a) lets smaller devs make a great game for a smaller niche than would be possible with a large corporate backer and (b) because i have found that when you crowdfund a game you get to have a lot of impact on the direction of the game (and this is coming from someone who's never donated more than 50 bucks to a game- i imagine the folks who pay enough to actually meet the devs in person feel even more strongly about this).
but god, man. enough is enough.
I am actually worried that other smaller companies see how much money is literally being thrown at RSI and try to do the same for their game.
I understand that 300 bucks is more to some people than others, but even if you have o problem dropping 300 bucks, keep in mind that your doing so will contribute to more and more 300 dollar offerings.
this is supposed to be a reasonably inexpensive hobby; other than when it's time to upgrade the PC or console i do not see spending any more than roughly 60 bucks on a game. hell, I play a miniatures wargame that costs less than 300 bucks to play, I don't even think i drop more than 300 on magic the gathering in a year and i play in at least 1 tournament a week.
Then pay only 50 bucks and thank the people that drop those 300 and up to make it possible to get the game.
i am all about the crowdfunding revolution because it (a) lets smaller devs make a great game for a smaller niche than would be possible with a large corporate backer and (b) because i have found that when you crowdfund a game you get to have a lot of impact on the direction of the game (and this is coming from someone who's never donated more than 50 bucks to a game- i imagine the folks who pay enough to actually meet the devs in person feel even more strongly about this).
but god, man. enough is enough.
I am actually worried that other smaller companies see how much money is literally being thrown at RSI and try to do the same for their game.
I understand that 300 bucks is more to some people than others, but even if you have o problem dropping 300 bucks, keep in mind that your doing so will contribute to more and more 300 dollar offerings.
this is supposed to be a reasonably inexpensive hobby; other than when it's time to upgrade the PC or console i do not see spending any more than roughly 60 bucks on a game. hell, I play a miniatures wargame that costs less than 300 bucks to play, I don't even think i drop more than 300 on magic the gathering in a year and i play in at least 1 tournament a week.
Then pay only 50 bucks and thank the people that drop those 300 and up to make it possible to get the game.
but it makes people angry and they feel bad in their gamer tummy if someone else has more money to donate to some project and get a nice looking polygon ship in a hangar as a reward, and the other poor gamers need to wait until the game comes out and then *shock* play the game to earn credits to buy the same ship later. Life is oh so unfair. Gaming is so unfair. RSI is so unfair for paying their team and creating 300 new jobs!
Ah well some people must feel miserable all day because life is pay2win .
Although I'm pretty sure lots of EA shills are running the show here and it's just a little badmouthing campaign they are running.. poorly.. because in the meantime SC's budget is reaching triple A territory, and no one needs you publisher suits anymore.. soon.
I see someone removed some of my posts. I guess pointing out how some people see flaws in this game angered certain individuals so they reported me instead of dealing with it like an adult lol.
Originally posted by Kefo I see someone removed some of my posts. I guess pointing out how some people see flaws in this game angered certain individuals so they reported me instead of dealing with it like an adult lol.
Welcome to the internet.
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I agree that Star Citizen is a social experiment. I hope SC is the start of a revolution in the gaming industry. We - the backers - get the game WE want ... and we put our wallet and personal money where our mouth is.
No more Ubisoft formula like Assassins Creed 21 like game.
No more EA like games with different 48 DLCs (and if you think that was hyperbole, you should check out the number of DLCs for certain games on Steam.... with weapon pack XXX being a single DLC ....).
No more games where 50 % of the project budget goes into marketing .. paid ads in magazines or even TV ads.
No more "add this feature, it does not fit but it will bring us + 1 million copies sold as that other game has it too ...".
No more excellent games being cut down or pushed out too early and buggy by people just looking at their ROI rate and next corporate stock report - or (in truth) their CEO bonus when the quartely target is reached ....
Have fun
I am a backer and can seen how much of a scam this game is. Their priority is selling virtual ships, not completing a game. Arena Commander is subpar for a module where blantant pay2win is already seen with more expensive ships winning easier and more often. We have grandoise allusions to an ultra game planted in peoples minds their imagination runs wild to make people do unsavory purchases. At every single corner is a way to make you pay for something. Posters, Ships, testing weapons.
You try to argue facts with the community and all you get is rabid spite and hatred. It is a cult where they just type Christ Robberts and chant helmet, helmet, helmet over and over again. The only reason why the fanboi's spout off all their generic "it will be the best" or "xyz feature is planned" is because they have so much invested into this game that they feel the need to lie and spin things to get others to buy it.
If the game is amazing and revolutionary I'd glady eat my words because that is a fantastic game out of all the absymal titles there are. I don't denouce the game through sheer spite, I do it through skepticism and judgements made from previous simliar scenarios.
@Zhjris
then just wait for the end result, shall we ?
Have fun
"not some Wall-Street suit, who's most interested in building a new swimming pool for his beach house."
"Besides the only pathetic thing is your epic hyperbole and strawman arguments which are either planned disinformation or just total ignorance of reality."
Because every investor works on wall street, buys a swimming pool, and a beach house. Talk about hyperbole and ignorance.
You are paying for concepts, not actual interactions with the game. That is the difference.
You're putting money into non-existent art, polygons, and code, without any guarantee that they will ever be rendered in a 3d environment.
This is almost like the story about The Emperor's New Clothes. The clothes are really there, you just have to conceptualize the fabric, the design, the length, and intricacies of the patterns.
If someone would read the very detailed progress reports, they would know what they are talking about ....
e.g.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14563-Monthly-Report-February
Have fun
i am all about the crowdfunding revolution because it (a) lets smaller devs make a great game for a smaller niche than would be possible with a large corporate backer and (b) because i have found that when you crowdfund a game you get to have a lot of impact on the direction of the game (and this is coming from someone who's never donated more than 50 bucks to a game- i imagine the folks who pay enough to actually meet the devs in person feel even more strongly about this).
but god, man. enough is enough.
I am actually worried that other smaller companies see how much money is literally being thrown at RSI and try to do the same for their game.
I understand that 300 bucks is more to some people than others, but even if you have o problem dropping 300 bucks, keep in mind that your doing so will contribute to more and more 300 dollar offerings.
this is supposed to be a reasonably inexpensive hobby; other than when it's time to upgrade the PC or console i do not see spending any more than roughly 60 bucks on a game. hell, I play a miniatures wargame that costs less than 300 bucks to play, I don't even think i drop more than 300 on magic the gathering in a year and i play in at least 1 tournament a week.
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
Dwight D Eisenhower
My optimism wears heavy boots and is loud.
Henry Rollins
Then pay only 50 bucks and thank the people that drop those 300 and up to make it possible to get the game.
but it makes people angry and they feel bad in their gamer tummy if someone else has more money to donate to some project and get a nice looking polygon ship in a hangar as a reward, and the other poor gamers need to wait until the game comes out and then *shock* play the game to earn credits to buy the same ship later. Life is oh so unfair. Gaming is so unfair. RSI is so unfair for paying their team and creating 300 new jobs!
Ah well some people must feel miserable all day because life is pay2win .
Although I'm pretty sure lots of EA shills are running the show here and it's just a little badmouthing campaign they are running.. poorly.. because in the meantime SC's budget is reaching triple A territory, and no one needs you publisher suits anymore.. soon.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Welcome to the internet.
Just wait till they implement an upvote/downvote system!
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche