If you make a female character and move the bust slider anywhere above 60% your character will tilt her head down, look at her new self and then look at the camera with a smirk before going back to idle.
It is truly hilarious.
Yeah, the male models have some funny animations if you are changing their butt-slider as well.
At the core what I hate is more time spent on the cash shop vs making another 3 dungeons every 3 to 4 months. It comes down to when I buy a game, I am paying for the Product. When I am buying an MMO I am buying the product, however I have to pay for access to it being online. I am good with that.
Edit,
If they had a P2P only server with no cash shop it would make me try it.
Just to clarify, there is NO dedicated cash shop. The only thing you can do with the cash currency(argents) is pay for your subscription(which gives you 50% increased rewards. In this game rewards = progress), or use it as alternate currency for the in-game marketplace(primary currency is credits). The in-game marketplace is more a GW1 style commodities exchange than an auction house.
As of right now the ONLY thing that you require argents for is socketing cores into the upper atlas, and that is going to be patched... The RU OBT used to be on the same system as us, and the system was changed and can now be done with argents or cores, and works differently. We are just a bit behind them.
If they had a P2P only server with no cash shop it would make me try it.
FF14 doesn't have one of those do they? I get that some people like the game but I just can't see renting access to a game for $200 a year.
I cannot see paying for a game and having stuff behind a cash shop that mean stuff in the game. Look at AA guess what if you want a higher chance at regrading your gear which makes you stronger you have to either spend endless hours grinding gold OR spend real money. You cannot have a chance at these dropping off mobs, instance bosses, killing players, nothing in game lets you get these crystals. Guess what, Trion said during Alpha it was not going to be that type of game, guess what they need money so it became apart of the game. I trust 0 F2P games and never will.
As for GW2 cash shop yea ok that one was what causing them not to have an expansion until now because they were not making money. So what will happen? They will need to turn to power items to get people to spend money. AA proves that and you could see in that game people will spend thousands of dollars in the cash shop to control a game. When a F2P game sees they will make that money they will do things they said they would not do.
As for FFXIV having a cash shop. Not 1 instance is gated behind the cash shop or DLC, 99.9% of the content made for FFXIV is in the game for a Sub. What is not in the sub 1 Mount, 3 colors that have very close hues in the game, a few rings that look funny, and the wedding stuff. I played SWTOR and so much was put behind a pay wall it not funny. I then play AA and that F2P game is terrible. I have even played LOTRO and DDO F2P guess what I don't like either. Add GW2 and Neverwinter. The list goes on for F2P Games I played,
Its just sad to see another game that looks good go this route.
As its open beta (soft launch, no more wipes) they have most of the game ready, but all the cool FLUFF has not been added yet but I am liking what it has so far
Also note, if you have a Geforce 900 series, the proformance is BAD but there is a fix for that. the 600-800 Geforce seres work better in this game then the 900 series until you do the tweaks needed.
One thing to mention - in a recent patch they seem to have fixed the subtitles matching the audio (before sometimes it was paraphrased). The lip sync is much improved too.
F2p, P2p, subscription debate rages on and highjacks another thread.
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I have a top of the line $2500 PC and the game runs great, but i am getting crashes all over. Hard crashes to desktop, PC powering off, or hard lock with audio stuttering. This is a water cooled PC with no problems running all new games at Max. I love Skyforge and am having great fun, but the client seems to have serious bugs related to graphics drivers.
Originally posted by MikotoMisaka Hmm, framerate thing may be an Nvidia issue? I run on max with an average of about 70 fps (drops to 45-50 in high pop situations, mainly the hub) with a R9 Fury X.
My nvidia 770 has been just fine maxed out at 1080p. Frame rates in the 100's and barely gets down into the 60s.
Originally posted by vanster I have a top of the line $2500 PC and the game runs great, but i am getting crashes all over. Hard crashes to desktop, PC powering off, or hard lock with audio stuttering. This is a water cooled PC with no problems running all new games at Max. I love Skyforge and am having great fun, but the client seems to have serious bugs related to graphics drivers.
My pc is nowehere near $2500 and I am having zero issues.
Originally posted by MikotoMisaka Hmm, framerate thing may be an Nvidia issue? I run on max with an average of about 70 fps (drops to 45-50 in high pop situations, mainly the hub) with a R9 Fury X.
My nvidia 770 has been just fine maxed out at 1080p. Frame rates in the 100's and barely gets down into the 60s.
You are one lucky SOB.
Try to be excellent to everyone you meet. You never know what someone else has seen or endured.
If they had a P2P only server with no cash shop it would make me try it.
FF14 doesn't have one of those do they? I get that some people like the game but I just can't see renting access to a game for $200 a year.
I cannot see paying for a game and having stuff behind a cash shop that mean stuff in the game. Look at AA guess what if you want a higher chance at regrading your gear which makes you stronger you have to either spend endless hours grinding gold OR spend real money. You cannot have a chance at these dropping off mobs, instance bosses, killing players, nothing in game lets you get these crystals. Guess what, Trion said during Alpha it was not going to be that type of game, guess what they need money so it became apart of the game. I trust 0 F2P games and never will.
As for GW2 cash shop yea ok that one was what causing them not to have an expansion until now because they were not making money. So what will happen? They will need to turn to power items to get people to spend money. AA proves that and you could see in that game people will spend thousands of dollars in the cash shop to control a game. When a F2P game sees they will make that money they will do things they said they would not do.
As for FFXIV having a cash shop. Not 1 instance is gated behind the cash shop or DLC, 99.9% of the content made for FFXIV is in the game for a Sub. What is not in the sub 1 Mount, 3 colors that have very close hues in the game, a few rings that look funny, and the wedding stuff. I played SWTOR and so much was put behind a pay wall it not funny. I then play AA and that F2P game is terrible. I have even played LOTRO and DDO F2P guess what I don't like either. Add GW2 and Neverwinter. The list goes on for F2P Games I played,
Its just sad to see another game that looks good go this route.
I like this game.. just saying. I enjoy playing it and I can see myself wasting several months on it. Just like the review said, I'm not going to skip it because it isn't this "perfect sandbox open world skill based" dream that probably will never exist.
Another voice here on the graphic performance issue - I've been running the game on 780M at 1080p with almost everything maxed out and the game runs at stable 60 fps for the most part. Could it be that the game has performance issues with new-ish graphic cards?
Originally posted by MikotoMisaka Hmm, framerate thing may be an Nvidia issue? I run on max with an average of about 70 fps (drops to 45-50 in high pop situations, mainly the hub) with a R9 Fury X.
My nvidia 770 has been just fine maxed out at 1080p. Frame rates in the 100's and barely gets down into the 60s.
Never notice issues with my nvidea gtx 970. Everything on max 60+ fps but ms is around 15-30. EU server is located in Amsterdam and I live in Holland so first time ever in an mmo where the server is soo close to home hehe
If someone is getting 20fps with 980ti, they or nvidia are doing it horribly wrong.
I get steady and smooth frame rates. If they go up or down from 44-60, it's still smooth and consistently paced frames with every graphic setting maxed.
I have a cheap PC and it runs fine,not sure why this game would cause any PC to struggle,it is a low poly game.
Could be the server location and perhaps some conflict with anti virus and services running eating up memory.
With MMOs its always a crap shoot. My new gaming rig runs awesome on some games and others not so well. People with my video card dont do well in WoW. GW2 in ran awesome and was getting 80+ FPS. There is warnings on the WoW forum not to buy my video card as its not WoW friendly. I am sure most of the problems will be fix but you will never have all fixed. Thats how things go.
EDIT: This game I get 100 FPS but I do get a graphic error at times that makes me have to end task the game.
If they had a P2P only server with no cash shop it would make me try it.
FF14 doesn't have one of those do they? I get that some people like the game but I just can't see renting access to a game for $200 a year.
I cannot see paying for a game and having stuff behind a cash shop that mean stuff in the game. Look at AA guess what if you want a higher chance at regrading your gear which makes you stronger you have to either spend endless hours grinding gold OR spend real money. You cannot have a chance at these dropping off mobs, instance bosses, killing players, nothing in game lets you get these crystals. Guess what, Trion said during Alpha it was not going to be that type of game, guess what they need money so it became apart of the game. I trust 0 F2P games and never will.
As for GW2 cash shop yea ok that one was what causing them not to have an expansion until now because they were not making money. So what will happen? They will need to turn to power items to get people to spend money. AA proves that and you could see in that game people will spend thousands of dollars in the cash shop to control a game. When a F2P game sees they will make that money they will do things they said they would not do.
As for FFXIV having a cash shop. Not 1 instance is gated behind the cash shop or DLC, 99.9% of the content made for FFXIV is in the game for a Sub. What is not in the sub 1 Mount, 3 colors that have very close hues in the game, a few rings that look funny, and the wedding stuff. I played SWTOR and so much was put behind a pay wall it not funny. I then play AA and that F2P game is terrible. I have even played LOTRO and DDO F2P guess what I don't like either. Add GW2 and Neverwinter. The list goes on for F2P Games I played,
Its just sad to see another game that looks good go this route.
I have a cheap PC and it runs fine,not sure why this game would cause any PC to struggle,it is a low poly game.
Could be the server location and perhaps some conflict with anti virus and services running eating up memory.
With MMOs its always a crap shoot. My new gaming rig runs awesome on some games and others not so well. People with my video card dont do well in WoW. GW2 in ran awesome and was getting 80+ FPS. There is warnings on the WoW forum not to buy my video card as its not WoW friendly. I am sure most of the problems will be fix but you will never have all fixed. Thats how things go.
EDIT: This game I get 100 FPS but I do get a graphic error at times that makes me have to end task the game.
I have a cheap PC and it runs fine,not sure why this game would cause any PC to struggle,it is a low poly game.
Could be the server location and perhaps some conflict with anti virus and services running eating up memory.
With MMOs its always a crap shoot. My new gaming rig runs awesome on some games and others not so well. People with my video card dont do well in WoW. GW2 in ran awesome and was getting 80+ FPS. There is warnings on the WoW forum not to buy my video card as its not WoW friendly. I am sure most of the problems will be fix but you will never have all fixed. Thats how things go.
EDIT: This game I get 100 FPS but I do get a graphic error at times that makes me have to end task the game.
And what card is that?
Sorry posted that above, here it is again, Radeon R9 290X 8gig
I'm sorry to inform you.. but subscription models are a thing of the past. No one wants to pay a box price + subscription to figure out if they like a new MMORPG. You're not going to see subscription games coming out and on the rare occasion that they do, they will go F2P eventually. Look at TSW, ESO, Wildstar.. any game that has started with a subscription is now going F2P because subscriptions don't work anymore.
I don't understand what peoples problem is with P2PF (Pay 2 Progress Faster) - it is not P2W, it does not give anyone combat advantage, and if anything it shortens the life of the game for those players.. but not for those that choose not to.
No.. you probably won't like everything in a game.. but honestly I can't think of a game that I liked 100% of everything. There's no way for a game developer to please every player.. that's something that you'll just have to get over.
Subscriptions don't work anymore? Gee, that's funny, considering that WoW and FF XIV: ARR are both doing very well, and have more players than any other MMO out there, with the possible exception of Gw 2 (which might have almost as many players as ARR), and even then that game is b2p.
There's nothing wrong with a sub model, as long as the game is good enough to warrant one. TSW, ESO, and WildShit were terrible games at launch, and so they had to drop their sub models. ARR was highly polished at launch, and so its sub model continues.
If you can't afford subscription games that's fine, but don't talk badly about the payment model just because you either don't, or can't, participate in it. Again, WoW and ARR have more content in them than any other game - and no, I don't play either one. But hands-down, they have more to do....and they also charge a sub fee. Do you see the connection?
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F2P Nope not interested. We have enough sub par MMOs that are P2W. Go on and say I am wrong. The only thing I will point out is this.
"Skyforge is not pay-to-win (P2W). It’s pay to progress faster; simple as that." "Does this translate to power? Yes, but it’s the same as buying an XP potion or skipping levels in other games."
Basically Winning or Paying not to play content. You might as well not even play a game because anyone who has played games for years like myself there will never be a game on the market that you will like everything in the game. I go all the way back to Atari and NES games and paying to skip, win, or any of that is pointless to me. Thats why its either a Sub game or nothing not F2P.
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This seems like a game that Mobile gamers would like where they can pay to skip levels or win at levels like Candy Crush. Good for them.
I'm sorry to inform you.. but subscription models are a thing of the past. No one wants to pay a box price + subscription to figure out if they like a new MMORPG. You're not going to see subscription games coming out and on the rare occasion that they do, they will go F2P eventually. Look at TSW, ESO, Wildstar.. any game that has started with a subscription is now going F2P because subscriptions don't work anymore.
I don't understand what peoples problem is with P2PF (Pay 2 Progress Faster) - it is not P2W, it does not give anyone combat advantage, and if anything it shortens the life of the game for those players.. but not for those that choose not to.
No.. you probably won't like everything in a game.. but honestly I can't think of a game that I liked 100% of everything. There's no way for a game developer to please every player.. that's something that you'll just have to get over.
*Purposely ignores Dragon Quest X, Final Fantasy XI and XIV.*
You're seeing less subscription based MMOs because you're seeing more free MMOs. In other, less circular wording: it's all relative. Not many subscription MMOs lasted very long from the days of WoW onward, either, and it all comes down to developers trying to circumvent cost by tying themselves to Publishers, who then adjoin themselves to investors and their ilk. When your investors decide they need to see returns on their investment, you're either going to need to appease them with wily business decisions or have them pick apart your Earthly remains like vultures. The latter is what you're likely going to see from entities that don't have the cash flow to hack it when PR and marketing, development, management, and maintenance costs come full circle.
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Yeah, the male models have some funny animations if you are changing their butt-slider as well.
Just to clarify, there is NO dedicated cash shop. The only thing you can do with the cash currency(argents) is pay for your subscription(which gives you 50% increased rewards. In this game rewards = progress), or use it as alternate currency for the in-game marketplace(primary currency is credits). The in-game marketplace is more a GW1 style commodities exchange than an auction house.
As of right now the ONLY thing that you require argents for is socketing cores into the upper atlas, and that is going to be patched... The RU OBT used to be on the same system as us, and the system was changed and can now be done with argents or cores, and works differently. We are just a bit behind them.
I cannot see paying for a game and having stuff behind a cash shop that mean stuff in the game. Look at AA guess what if you want a higher chance at regrading your gear which makes you stronger you have to either spend endless hours grinding gold OR spend real money. You cannot have a chance at these dropping off mobs, instance bosses, killing players, nothing in game lets you get these crystals. Guess what, Trion said during Alpha it was not going to be that type of game, guess what they need money so it became apart of the game. I trust 0 F2P games and never will.
As for GW2 cash shop yea ok that one was what causing them not to have an expansion until now because they were not making money. So what will happen? They will need to turn to power items to get people to spend money. AA proves that and you could see in that game people will spend thousands of dollars in the cash shop to control a game. When a F2P game sees they will make that money they will do things they said they would not do.
As for FFXIV having a cash shop. Not 1 instance is gated behind the cash shop or DLC, 99.9% of the content made for FFXIV is in the game for a Sub. What is not in the sub 1 Mount, 3 colors that have very close hues in the game, a few rings that look funny, and the wedding stuff. I played SWTOR and so much was put behind a pay wall it not funny. I then play AA and that F2P game is terrible. I have even played LOTRO and DDO F2P guess what I don't like either. Add GW2 and Neverwinter. The list goes on for F2P Games I played,
Its just sad to see another game that looks good go this route.
As its open beta (soft launch, no more wipes) they have most of the game ready, but all the cool FLUFF has not been added yet but I am liking what it has so far
F2p, P2p, subscription debate rages on and highjacks another thread.
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My nvidia 770 has been just fine maxed out at 1080p. Frame rates in the 100's and barely gets down into the 60s.
My pc is nowehere near $2500 and I am having zero issues.
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I have a cheap PC and it runs fine,not sure why this game would cause any PC to struggle,it is a low poly game.
Could be the server location and perhaps some conflict with anti virus and services running eating up memory.
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Never notice issues with my nvidea gtx 970. Everything on max 60+ fps but ms is around 15-30. EU server is located in Amsterdam and I live in Holland so first time ever in an mmo where the server is soo close to home hehe
If someone is getting 20fps with 980ti, they or nvidia are doing it horribly wrong.
I get steady and smooth frame rates. If they go up or down from 44-60, it's still smooth and consistently paced frames with every graphic setting maxed.
3440x1440 @ 45fps steady, maxed settings
AMD R9 295X2
AMD FX8350
16GB 1866
OCZ SSD , Win 7 Pro
+1
With MMOs its always a crap shoot. My new gaming rig runs awesome on some games and others not so well. People with my video card dont do well in WoW. GW2 in ran awesome and was getting 80+ FPS. There is warnings on the WoW forum not to buy my video card as its not WoW friendly. I am sure most of the problems will be fix but you will never have all fixed. Thats how things go.
EDIT: This game I get 100 FPS but I do get a graphic error at times that makes me have to end task the game.
GW2 doing bad financially? Really?
http://global.ncsoft.com/global/ir/earnings.aspx
cuz pay model is the only thing that effects expansions releases...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-13-ncsoft-profits-up-yoy-but-down-on-last-quarter
And what card is that?
Sorry posted that above, here it is again, Radeon R9 290X 8gig
Once you get to around 2000 prestige the bosses start becoming more of a challenge. Takes a few hours but worth it.
Subscriptions don't work anymore? Gee, that's funny, considering that WoW and FF XIV: ARR are both doing very well, and have more players than any other MMO out there, with the possible exception of Gw 2 (which might have almost as many players as ARR), and even then that game is b2p.
There's nothing wrong with a sub model, as long as the game is good enough to warrant one. TSW, ESO, and WildShit were terrible games at launch, and so they had to drop their sub models. ARR was highly polished at launch, and so its sub model continues.
If you can't afford subscription games that's fine, but don't talk badly about the payment model just because you either don't, or can't, participate in it. Again, WoW and ARR have more content in them than any other game - and no, I don't play either one. But hands-down, they have more to do....and they also charge a sub fee. Do you see the connection?
"Why would I want to loose a religion upon my people? Religions wreck from within - Empires and individuals alike! It's all the same." - God Emperor of Dune
*Purposely ignores Dragon Quest X, Final Fantasy XI and XIV.*
You're seeing less subscription based MMOs because you're seeing more free MMOs. In other, less circular wording: it's all relative. Not many subscription MMOs lasted very long from the days of WoW onward, either, and it all comes down to developers trying to circumvent cost by tying themselves to Publishers, who then adjoin themselves to investors and their ilk. When your investors decide they need to see returns on their investment, you're either going to need to appease them with wily business decisions or have them pick apart your Earthly remains like vultures. The latter is what you're likely going to see from entities that don't have the cash flow to hack it when PR and marketing, development, management, and maintenance costs come full circle.
Subscription MMOs aren't any deader than normal.