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[Column] World of Warcraft: Speculating on the Next Expansion

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

World of Warcraft has reached the end of the Warlords of Draenor expansion with the deployment of the v6.2 update, and now that players have voiced their concerns (to put it kindly) with what has been felt to be a rather lackluster expansion to date, it seems a good time to begin thinking about what could possibly come next for World of Warcraft.

Read more of Suzie Ford's and Catherine Daro's World of Warcraft: Speculating on the Next Expansion.

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  • LilithMLilithM Member UncommonPosts: 82

    I did not return for the last two expansions. Not matter how many they release it's still the same old WoW at the core. If they want me to return they have to overhaul the combat, make it closer to an action-combat one. Tab target combat is so extremely boring. Only reason I stay with SWTOR despite having beyond dull combat is because it being star wars and BW's storytelling system, my char can speak! WoW's stories no longer interest me and they have the old and lazy storytelling system that I've grown to hate.

    Also, add a real character creation system please. Like face and body morphs. The current system is lazy and old fashioned.

  • zaberfangxzaberfangx Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    Until they lose mass amount of sub like they lose 50% there player base there doing something right to keep so many people still playing there game.
     
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  • GolbezTheLionGolbezTheLion Member UncommonPosts: 347

    The only individuals who thought it was a lackluster expansion are the same individuals who have something to complain about with EVERY expansion.

    Nothing will ever be good enough for these people.

    When you have millions and millions of players, five million more than any other western MMORPG, you inevitably also have a higher percentage of complainers as well.

    These naysayers then take to the forums en masse to express how they feel about every little odd and end that they have some sort of issue with. It paints an inaccurate portrayal of how the average individual feels about the game, when in fact most players are very satisfied, or else they wouldn't continue to play.

    Vested interest in a character due to time spent isn't enough to keep millions upon millions interested in a game for over a decade. It is the most high quality, polished, and entertaining fantasy themepark on the market - that is what keeps people playing. You simply cannot find a better fantasy themepark mmorpg, and until someone manages to trump that (no pun intended) Warcraft will continue to be King of the Hill.

  • orbitxoorbitxo Member RarePosts: 1,956

    I dunno- with the movie Warcraft on the horizon- blizzard should be focusing on a whole new engine mmo based on the movie. Imo.

    and of course more diablo3 new content!- hoping  they would start selling DLC packs for Diablo 3

  • MechanismMechanism Member UncommonPosts: 143
    I so very much want charismatic villains and not the power hungry rage monsters we keep getting.
  • WicasaWicasa Member UncommonPosts: 77
    I sent a suggestion to Blizz through WoW the other day asking them to get rid of fatigue, open up the oceans, and let us have physics, boats, and goblin/gnome waverunners...  A WaterWorld expansion - navel combat, pirates, treasure island, caves... Warcraft movie and Dead Men Tell No Tales are coming out around the same time - close enough - ride the wave, Blizz!
  • Righteous_RockRighteous_Rock Member RarePosts: 1,234
    I speculate that I won't be participating unless wow is f2p. I haven't been completely satisfied with the last few expansions, they haven't been disappointments totally, but they just are not that great. I further speculate that with the addition of mouse and keyboard support for Xbox one, we will see world of warcraft come to consoles.
  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,650

    The only thing that would bring me back is a new class and new race, plus a new area to explore.

    WoD was good but not great!


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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    I don't think story would change anything,i have never heard a discussion on WOW story telling.

     

    I think the truth is players get tired of adding 5 levels and a new gear grind,it really is no reason to play any game.I feel gamer's like to feel an attachment to their player and just  adding another 5 levels or even story does not do it.

     

    Also story telling is nice i would never argue that but that si a single player game design not a MMO design.It is also content that makes every single player feel the same and not unique or different,just do the story and your done with it like everyone else.

     

    Once  a game gets to that boring part of the game ,i feel the proper way to create longevity is by adding FUN ideas,scripted content.I know some prefer just adding more pvp ideas,that is one aspect but you should also add PVE scripted content so players have something to look forward to every day.BTW the scripted content can be different each day ,it does not mean same old same old each day.

     

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  • HeraseHerase Member RarePosts: 993
    Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

    The only individuals who thought it was a lackluster expansion are the same individuals who have something to complain about with EVERY expansion.

    I have to disagree, due to the fact that the people complaining aren't just your typical "naysayers". Dedicated players have raised their concern with this expansion, even blizzards MVPs have raised their concerns and disapproval of this expansion.   

  • Iceman8235Iceman8235 Member UncommonPosts: 205
    I think the only thing I'd return to WoW for at this point would be a time locked progression server.  I know they've said numerous times that it would be "impossible" for blabla reasons, but we'll see how impossible it is when they continue to hemorrhage subs and they need a good influx of players to keep the moneymen happy.
  • WhySoSeriousWhySoSerious Member UncommonPosts: 156
    Playable Naga would be cool. Though if Garrisons or anything like it exist in the next expansion, that's an automatic deal-breaker for me.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057

    The lore they've chosen to focus on in the last three expansions has been a turn off.  It sure is nice of the Burning Legion to hold back for years of diversions on Azeroth.

     

    If the next expansion doesn't head to Burning Legion worlds then I doubt I'll buy it, which will be a first.

  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    I can tell you one thing you won't need to speculate on at all. the fact that it's not coming any time soon.

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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

    The only individuals who thought it was a lackluster expansion are the same individuals who have something to complain about with EVERY expansion.

    Nothing will ever be good enough for these people.

    When you have millions and millions of players, five million more than any other western MMORPG, you inevitably also have a higher percentage of complainers as well.

    These naysayers then take to the forums en masse to express how they feel about every little odd and end that they have some sort of issue with. It paints an inaccurate portrayal of how the average individual feels about the game, when in fact most players are very satisfied, or else they wouldn't continue to play.

    Vested interest in a character due to time spent isn't enough to keep millions upon millions interested in a game for over a decade. It is the most high quality, polished, and entertaining fantasy themepark on the market - that is what keeps people playing. You simply cannot find a better fantasy themepark mmorpg, and until someone manages to trump that (no pun intended) Warcraft will continue to be King of the Hill.

    As you say if people didn't like it they wouldn't still be playing. However 2.9M people stopped playing. The biggest ever quarterly drop in subs. 

    Yes WoW is the largest subscription based game - you erroneously added the word western and left out the word subscription by the way. Is it the "best" - that is personal but it is "huge". To think otherwise is delusional. Delusion goes both ways however. WoD has not gone down well. We will get another indication in next week's quarterly reports and - as Suzie Ford said last week - the true test coming in three months time.

  • azurreiazurrei Member UncommonPosts: 332
    Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

    The only individuals who thought it was a lackluster expansion are the same individuals who have something to complain about with EVERY expansion.

    Nothing will ever be good enough for these people.

    When you have millions and millions of players, five million more than any other western MMORPG, you inevitably also have a higher percentage of complainers as well.

    These naysayers then take to the forums en masse to express how they feel about every little odd and end that they have some sort of issue with. It paints an inaccurate portrayal of how the average individual feels about the game, when in fact most players are very satisfied, or else they wouldn't continue to play.

    Vested interest in a character due to time spent isn't enough to keep millions upon millions interested in a game for over a decade. It is the most high quality, polished, and entertaining fantasy themepark on the market - that is what keeps people playing. You simply cannot find a better fantasy themepark mmorpg, and until someone manages to trump that (no pun intended) Warcraft will continue to be King of the Hill.

    Not "only" - my GF and I, despite having serious reservations about MoP before it released - ended up really enjoying ourselves because it was a paradise for the casual crowd.  Dailies, farming, pet battles, rares, LFR (was still new and rewarding,) legendary quests, etc. all done very well.  We actually took the fewest number of breaks during an expansion during MoP (both summers.) And then came WoD, which both of us were *excited* about.  Except it was horrible - the leveling/treasures were great - and then it fell flat on its face at end game.  LFR was gutted, meaningless horribly boring "daily" quests, practically no reason to be out in the open world, no flying, no reason to do dungeons beyond the first few weeks, god awful PvP balance/zone.  The expansion is basically A) decent quality raids for the small % of the playerbase that do raids outside LFR, B) facebook like garrison game for the casuals C) the same crappy PvP for the diehards (Ashran is an abomination) and D) ridiculous reputation grinds for the insane.  Blizzard absolutely destroyed 90% of the casual content in the game (old stuff not included, I'm talking WoD content) and gave people zero reason to be out in the world.  WoD failed as an expansion, and this is coming from an 8 year+ veteran that has enjoyed every expansion to varying degrees up until WoD.  Will I be back for the next expansion? Maybe, but I certainly will not waste $50 on it at launch - it will be the first expansion I don't play at launch, no exceptions.

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

    The only individuals who thought it was a lackluster expansion are the same individuals who have something to complain about with EVERY expansion.

    Nothing will ever be good enough for these people.

    When you have millions and millions of players, five million more than any other western MMORPG, you inevitably also have a higher percentage of complainers as well.

    These naysayers then take to the forums en masse to express how they feel about every little odd and end that they have some sort of issue with. It paints an inaccurate portrayal of how the average individual feels about the game, when in fact most players are very satisfied, or else they wouldn't continue to play.

    Vested interest in a character due to time spent isn't enough to keep millions upon millions interested in a game for over a decade. It is the most high quality, polished, and entertaining fantasy themepark on the market - that is what keeps people playing. You simply cannot find a better fantasy themepark mmorpg, and until someone manages to trump that (no pun intended) Warcraft will continue to be King of the Hill.

    Okay, you're obviously seeing things through rose tinted glasses. 

    Take a step back, contemplate a bit and ask yourself: can really patch 6.2 carry the game for another 10 months to a year ? Do you in all honesty believe that WoD is an expansion comparable to TBC, WotLK or even Cataclysm ? 

    As for the naysayers you mention, 3 mill subs in 3 months is something more than just naysayers or complainers. I'm willing to bet that sub figures will continue to free fall during the summer. And don't presume that all these people will jump back in once the next expansion releases. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Let's call it:  The Shores of Cashstoria...

     

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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556

    How will they handle the millions of players that didn't want to level through WoD bcuz disappointment.

    Will they give instant level 100 to level 90's who buy the next expac?

    Interesting to see what happens.

  • GediasGedias Member UncommonPosts: 46
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    I think the only thing I'd return to WoW for at this point would be a time locked progression server.  I know they've said numerous times that it would be "impossible" for blabla reasons, but we'll see how impossible it is when they continue to hemorrhage subs and they need a good influx of players to keep the moneymen happy.

    Blizzard devs have stated before they would consider F2P if subscriptions dropped significantly so I don't see why time-locked servers would be out of the question. I'd love to do it just for the PVP - find a season where class balance was good (say season 8) and just play to your hearts content!

  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    Just give us the samurai class Blizzard or something different like vampire.
  • RoxtenRoxten Member Posts: 5
    This is exactly why I stopped playing,It's awesome to finally see Azshara return to the game and the other changes like all characters sharing achievements,mounts,pets but I can never keep up with the game cause so many expansions too soon,now I know why people just hit the dungeons as soon as one comes out and they don't even get to enjoy the quests and story at their own pace.
  • nesteanestea Member UncommonPosts: 30
    I have plenty of hopes for World of Warcraft. I Loved the WoD Expansion....at first. But it quickly got very, very old when you have 9+ characters to level through. Though that IS always the case, the Followers/Garrison stuff got extremely old. Ooo they added boats.. but no >real< reason to do Naval missions. OMG I Get OIL! ......and it's only useful to run naval missions which still do not do a damned thing.
     
    The Legendary quest line is a bit of a joke, (as was making sure you were unable to get the cloak now as well) and I have a very big feeling that this 'legendary' ring will also disappear when WoD makes the transition from current to old.
     
    The only way I want to see garrisons return in ANY way, is for Guilds. Where guild mates can gather and do stuff. That's it. Personal garrisons were the WORST possible thing to do to the game. Player housing is one thing, but they epic-failed on it this way.
     
    But these are just my opinions.
     
    The good..
     
    I did like the idea of hiring followers to come and play with me, and I loved the world events.
     
    If they could make those daily or even weekly and make them Random, that would  be amazing and give people a reason to out in the world again.
  • nissaleenissalee Member UncommonPosts: 3
    Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

    The only individuals who thought it was a lackluster expansion are the same individuals who have something to complain about with EVERY expansion.

    Nothing will ever be good enough for these people.

    When you have millions and millions of players, five million more than any other western MMORPG, you inevitably also have a higher percentage of complainers as well.

    These naysayers then take to the forums en masse to express how they feel about every little odd and end that they have some sort of issue with. It paints an inaccurate portrayal of how the average individual feels about the game, when in fact most players are very satisfied, or else they wouldn't continue to play.

    Vested interest in a character due to time spent isn't enough to keep millions upon millions interested in a game for over a decade. It is the most high quality, polished, and entertaining fantasy themepark on the market - that is what keeps people playing. You simply cannot find a better fantasy themepark mmorpg, and until someone manages to trump that (no pun intended) Warcraft will continue to be King of the Hill.

    That's not true at all. I have thoroughly enjoyed every expansion up to this one. The last time I really complained about WoW was when we went over a year on the last patch of MoP. Sadly, more people are leaving. People who used to be major fans of the franchise are hurt by this expansion. If you can't see what's wrong, then you are just keeping yourself delusional so you can justify your continued contribution to Blizzard.

  • WicasaWicasa Member UncommonPosts: 77
    Been having a blast playing with my babe all night - if not WoW, then what? Black and white ESO? No jumping off any ledge, fake background FFXIV? Low frame rate, non pvp GW2? Single player, loading screen loving SWTOR? Hacked, low draw distance ArcheAge? Stop being so picky and hop(e) back on WoW for Christ sakes... Movie, expansion, BlizzCon!
     
     
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