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Windows 10 isn't worth the hassle atm
I don't know about you out there but the more I read about Win X the more scary it sounds. Most of the horror stories of course are simply people constructing mountains from molehills so I am more concerned with how unfinished it is. The OS's main function is to make all those naughty little pieces of hardware get along and play nice with each other, and if it cannot do that then it is about as useless as a chocolate fire guard.
I installed Win X a couple of days ago, argued with it for over 12 hours and then rolled back to 8.1
The first problem was the OS refusing to use the latest Win X compatible drivers from Nvidia, instead forcing the basic windows video drivers on me and absolutely refusing to install the correct ones. This despite me installing them before the upgrade so that they were already there. I got that sorted without too much trouble and the sound packed in. The only way to get the sound to work was to go into device manager, uninstall the soundcard and restart the system. You can imagine how annoying that was everytime I restarted my PC. There is a thread on the Microsoft forums about the sound issues that is now stretching to more than sixty pages, covers many different devices and configurations and includes various fixes and work arounds that work for some but not for others. These sound issues have apparently been a part of the new OS for about six months so you can decide for yourselves why MS hasn't fixed them before release.
MS usually work closely with 3rd party providers to ensure maximum compatibility with a new OS. I don't see how they could have worked closely with the likes of Creative Labs when the latter doesn't have any Win X drivers ready for their products. For the older soundcards like X-Fi etc. users will have to wait until about October for those drivers to surface, unforeseen problems not withstanding.
The next thing I noticed was that Hitman Pro was flagging increasing numbers of the new OS files as suspicious, as was AVG. They are now happy as Win 8.1 has made a return.
Lastly was the BSOD with a security kernel failure ( this is also driver related ) that convinced me that Win X is far from ready for release and needs about another 6 months in the oven. The piss poor driver compatibilities of this new OS are astounding.
From what I saw Win X has the potential to be an excellent OS but for gods sake wait a few months before trying it.
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No BSOD so far in W10 on 5 machines.
But the other options:
Windows 8/8.1: W10 is 1000x better then W8, dubbed "the Big Fail" and worst Windows implementation ever. (proves that even Windows XP usage beat W8 untill just before W10 release)
W7: best imo, but they quit adding new content and just did security updates, in a while they will stop doing that too so that comes to a end.
Mac OS: paying 5x for same power in hardware then a normal gaming pc, very tricky/almost impossible to upgrade, but at least it "has a Apple logo on it to parade around for friends."
Linux: mwhaha, always hassle running Windows games and fking around with Wine etc after each minor patch. If they could have a 100% fix on this I would use Linux 100% though.
Unfortunately: there are no decent alternatives.
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Stange, My upgrade wnt without a hitch.
I have an NVidia (GTX980) card to, and yes, the Win 10 upgrade did not support it directly, but GeForce Experience downloaded the driver and installed it wihtout problems afterwards.
I recently upgrade 3 different computers (all with a different base OS) to Win 10. Now my computers are down to just 2 versions. 1 Pro, 2 Home.
Upgrading my Win 8.1 to 10 - Easy, no hassle, no muss, no fuss. About 30 min to reset things the way my daughter likes it. No driver issues, no nothing. I did have to reboot 1 additional time to get the Nvidia drivers to work, but just a reboot and everything settled into place.
Upgrading my two Win 7 machines was hell. Took a better part of my day off. Plus side is that I was able to watch several movies I'd been holding off on. Once they were installed I had to go through, update and reconfigure many things. 1 of the computers was "down" for 2 days before things were "back to normal". I had to uninstall several drivers and use a clean install that was manually downloaded. However beyond having to manually download several things it was not much of a hassle.
To be honest. I had a worse time upgrading my daughters computer to 8 compared to anything I had to deal with on 3 computers worth of 10. I'm not saying that there are no issues, and many of the issues I have read are due to people wanting some portion or another of the main OS not there. (such as the new Edge). At this point things are "back to normal" I'm just waiting for anything to crop up. I'm currently using Kaspersky on 2 of the 3 computers and so far nothing has been tagged as questionable, then again Kaspersky immediately upgraded their programming to comply with 10.
I'll take one thing back. Window's 10 insistence on doubling up with the Win firewall, and then constantly telling you that it is off when you shut it down. Until you get in and set the annoying messages to stop.
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Several Unlocks and a few days game time to make the F2P considerably easier
Don't know about Mac or Linux as I have never used them. Win 8 was a cluster fuck, Win 8.1 was much better and if you use classic shell with it then it is almost identical to using a faster version of Win 7. Win 7 itself I have no problems with, best MS OS to date. The various problems that Win X has at the moment should have been mostly sorted before release, especially the sound problems that are affecting a vast amount of people. In a few months these should have been fixed so I advise sticking with Win 7 or 8.1 until they are.
Personally I love windows 10 , especially as a planetside 2 player. On windows 7 I had my graphic settings set to medium/low in order to keep a decent in big battles and the fps meter was showing CPU as the bottleneck.
Now I can set the settings to Ultra/high and I have a much higher fps at all times even during intense battles and it shows GPU being the bottleneck this time which would never happen on windows 7.
I made sure to compare the performance going to the same places in the game and with roughly the same amount of people in a fight.
My ignorant non-tech savvy conclusion is that windows 10 helped loosen up the bottleneck on my processor (possibly), no hardware change was made going from win 7 to win 10 and both are 64 bits version.
Here are some of my hardware specs for those who would be wondering :
Processor: Intel Core i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93Ghz
RAM : 16 GB @ 1600 MHz
Video card : GeForce GTX 760 1280GB Gddr5 vram
Hard drive: 1TB SATA
Also none of my games crashed so far, I tried Everquest 1 and 2 , APB reloaded, Dirty Bomb, Firefall, Hearthstone, WoW, Heroes of the storm , Landmark, Marvel Heroes, Magic Duels, Skyforge, Trove.
I hope this will help a little bit.
I had a similar issue but my issues were due to me not staying up to date on things.
1TB HD had my Win 8.1 (with Start8 on it).
Installed Win10. Tried to Acronis the OS to a new SSD I bought.
MBR corrupted. So I tried to delete and start fresh, wouldn't let me.
Downloaded a new thumbdrive version of Win10. Did a fresh install direct onto the SSD. It created 4 partitions. I left them alone.
The original partitions on the original drive, I tried to delete through Disk Management. Couldn't. Tried formatting, couldn't. Put Hiram's in and deleted the entire thing. But then I forgot to format to NTFS and Win10 didn't see the drive anymore. So I spent another 30-50 minutes trying to figure out why my BIOS could see it but Windows couldn't.
Redid Hiram's again and now it's working. NVIDIA set up nicely, most of my drivers were already updated (which was nice).
We'll see. It's certainly better than 8, 8.1, ME, Vista, launches so far. Those took me even longer to figure out.
P.S. Apps are just a funny name for small programs. There were only a handful that I wanted to get rid of (Candy Crush, Mine craft, sports, news, etc). The rest like the Xbox app are there so I can play my XBO games on the laptop.
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Same thing for me except I've got a GTX 760. So far no real problems. I have some minor issues online video players not buffering consistently, but I'll take it if that's as bad as it gets.
Since i have a OEM windows i am holding back until i get the all clear from MS on my OEM+specs. That way i not only avoid the worst day 1 bugs but i also get what MS consider to be the optimal chance of my machine not.. well... Exploding.
I know some people who had OEM windows and decided to roll the dice ran in to some... hilarious issues. So that might be what the OP became a victim of.
Beyond that it seems to work really nice with modern equipment and as with all new windows versions older equipment will catch up once the drivers are optimized.
This have been a good conversation
I always read about people having issues with new windows releases or other software updates.
Somehow I never have any issues. I have used windows vista 7 8 and now 10 and have never had any issues. Windows 10 is no different, runs great, no crashes ever and no issues with any of my drivers. All my programmes run fine and some game run at faster fps.
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Bullshit. Windows 7 are for old grumpy cats who don't like change. See what I did there? I love windows 10 and I am definitely not lazy and not into PCs.there is no reason to use windows 7 over 10, 10 is better in every way. Of course if you are grumpy cat that doesn't like change... Let me guess you stayed on xp for years right?
I tried Eso and had 10-20 fps more on average. But then I don't have a shitty amd
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I agree and confirm that my ESO FPS average also went up noticeably. However I did run onto two peculiar upgrade issues that seem to be affecting many so my advice, especially for those who don't enjoy troubleshooting is to wait a couple of weeks.
One of the problems I had is that despite the fact that the "create media" upgrade option is open to the world with no caveats about it being US only, it's localized to US only and if your current OS's locale is not set to US, the upgrade will fail with an unhelpful "Something Happened" error pop-up box.
And once you get past that, the upgrade is hanging for many at 25% completion / 84% file copy. It's failing for incredibly trivial issues: for some it's because they left an SD card attached for others because despite having very standard vanilla DVD drives, it'll hang unless you disconnect the SATA cable to the DVD drive.
Both of those happened to me.
In other words, the upgrade currently has several bugs that will frustrate you.
Once it's installed? It runs better than ever. I've had zero issues with the most troublesome games: Witcher 3 runs perfectly and even Arkham Knight (I was one of those who got the Steam PC version before it got pulled) runs perfectly.
It's a great OS... just hold on a bit before upgrading or enjoy your troubleshooting.
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Yeah.. .it was my own fault for not living in the US and having a DVD drive that although it works 100% with Win 8.1, required no drivers other that the standard default Windows driver, ran the Win10 HW compatability app multiple times, my install would consistently hang at the same exact spot every time until, based on what others had tried on the large Reddit thread about this very issue, I disconnected the SATA cable to my DVD and it finally installed.
Yeah... 0 hassles must be the norm based on your large sample of 1 lol.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Did the upgrade first so I could get the win10 key from the registry. Ran into no problems other than having to install the 2 updates before it allowed the system to activate. Then i did a full reload of system from USB drive and it setup perfect other than having to run both updates to windows 10 so it would activate. Everything runs so much better and games look and run better.
This includes:
LOTRO
WOW
SWTOR
ESOTU
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4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
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As far as I'm concerned, the function of a new operating system is to obsolete your old hardware.
The function of new hardware is to obsolete your old applications.
Obsoleting your old applications, obsoletes your old operating system.
... and so on.
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While that may be true there can be some differences between an APP and a program.
For myself I still love windows 7 and I am far from adverse to new things but everything runs fine on my pc with 7 and my games all run with a pretty dang good fps 90+ so not in a hurry to change just for the sake of it beside there are somethings about 10 which some people will be turned off by. My biggest issues is cortana and the store I can't uninstall.
Key word being uninstall not hide or disable, but I digress.
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Same here! 2 in my office, one in my computer room, laptop, and my wifes computer. I did the preview for a couple weeks and decided I liked it enough just to switch all my Win7 machines over. I like it.
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