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Next star wars mmo?

What would you like to see? I'd like to see some kind of game where you start as a jedi initiate and have to work your way up to master, and it would take 6 months to a year to go through the trials and all. Anyone else?
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  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670
    I'd like to see a game where we focus on LIVING in the Star Wars Univers and rarely or never even see a Jedi

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  • beerisgoodbeerisgood Member Posts: 59
    I jsut think it would be alot of fun to live through the trials and all of that. I've been playing galaxies for about a year, and its done, id like to see a new mmo like that.
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529

    If there are Jedi.. I would like them to be one of the 28 other classes in the game.. and their content only a small portion of the game.

    And a saber TEF...

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  • New_to_MMONew_to_MMO Member Posts: 71



    Originally posted by Shayde

    If there are Jedi.. I would like them to be one of the 28 other classes in the game.. and their content only a small portion of the game.
    And a saber TEF...



    And Perma-Death after 3 deaths....then you start over from scratch.
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529

    No.. no perma death. Not even an xp loss.

    Those two things got the Jedi whining, which led to just about every content change/nerf all the way up to the nge removing jedi bounties altogether.

    Whine whine whine.. suddenly they're the alpha class.. then a starter profession.

    Second biggest reason SWG is where it is now. #1 is smed.

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  • deggilatordeggilator Member Posts: 520


    I'd like to see a game that doesn't focus mostly on just two professions (Jedi, BH) as SWG has been from the early beginning, but has content for every profession. And I want it to have activities that actually give the feel of being in a Star Wars universe, unlike hunting animals in Dantooine all the time just to get xp.

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  • New_to_MMONew_to_MMO Member Posts: 71



    Originally posted by Shayde

    No.. no perma death. Not even an xp loss.
    Those two things got the Jedi whining, which led to just about every content change/nerf all the way up to the nge removing jedi bounties altogether.
    Whine whine whine.. suddenly they're the alpha class.. then a starter profession.
    Second biggest reason SWG is where it is now. #1 is smed.



    but who cares if they whine? if they don't like it, then don't be a jedi! it seems like a good way to keep the population of jedi down to a minimum.
  • SelothSeloth Member Posts: 388

    okay jedi here, pre-cu jedi even, missed pub 9 jedi by that much....

    my take on this is fine perma-death is cool,  that works so long as all i have to do is restart my jedi template and p.s. make it 10 deaths thanks to lag and rubber banding please.

    I would like it if there is no bh'ers hunting me. IF you are going to have bh missions on my tail, then allow me to have my unity partner not gen vis.

    make it so that if a jedi pulls a glow stick in a city or in front of a military npc then a bolt from an orbiting star ship cinders me. it you did this i can almost promise you would not see a single jedi come by and "wreck" your gcw too.

    Make it so that only a jedi can loot a pearl off a dead kyrat. this would keep the econ in check and prevent pearl farmers. or even better get rid of pearls and crystals as they were and make it so that a jedi could do a mission (gasp, i know content) to earn them and make them notrade items.

    oh yes, and jedi should not get a 2nd toon. if a normal does not then why should they?

    if you just can not stand the idea of a single aphla class that is limited then have somethign like what they do in Anarchy online and have the very high end players access a special avatar of thier inner self that is of a timed durration and a long cool down.

     

  • New_to_MMONew_to_MMO Member Posts: 71



    Originally posted by Seloth

    okay jedi here, pre-cu jedi even, missed pub 9 jedi by that much....
    my take on this is fine perma-death is cool,  that works so long as all i have to do is restart my jedi template and p.s. make it 10 deaths thanks to lag and rubber banding please.
    I would like it if there is no bh'ers hunting me. IF you are going to have bh missions on my tail, then allow me to have my unity partner not gen vis.
    make it so that if a jedi pulls a glow stick in a city or in front of a military npc then a bolt from an orbiting star ship cinders me. it you did this i can almost promise you would not see a single jedi come by and "wreck" your gcw too.
    Make it so that only a jedi can loot a pearl off a dead kyrat. this would keep the econ in check and prevent pearl farmers. or even better get rid of pearls and crystals as they were and make it so that a jedi could do a mission (gasp, i know content) to earn them and make them notrade items.
    oh yes, and jedi should not get a 2nd toon. if a normal does not then why should they?
    if you just can not stand the idea of a single aphla class that is limited then have somethign like what they do in Anarchy online and have the very high end players access a special avatar of thier inner self that is of a timed durration and a long cool down.
     




    Gotta have BH's hunting Jedi!!!

    I'm up for any combo of BH's hunting jedi, Saber TEF, Perma-Death (10 deaths is about max), Pearl loot being Jedi only is fine. I think you gotta have visibility somehow. Maybe anytime you come within a certain range of anyone else with your saber/robe on (unless its another jedi, then no visibility penalty)

    Have the only loot that comes from Krayt's be Pearls, so there aren't a bunch of Tissue farmers either. Change the Krayt Tissue to Gorax Tissue or something else so Jedi get a chance to hunt Krayt without too much visibility threat.

    bah, like it matters anyway /cry

  • SelothSeloth Member Posts: 388

    vis to me would mean coming from civilan npcs, opposite faction players, players on the same side that either not in your guild (max) or better to me not that one unity partner they allowed in the game. but if you were a showoff and whipped out your saber/robes/powers in a major city in front of an imperial stromy or a rebel trooper then you should be one shotted from orbit. this would keep they cries about seeing jedi everywhere down alot, add in that if you tried to be a jedi in a major pvp battle then you should also be toast.

    to me jedi pvp should be like a show war.

    why play a mmorpg if you have to do it alone?

  • phosphorosphosphoros Member Posts: 512

    I'd like to see a Star Wars MMO not made by SOE or Turbine.
    That's my only real wish. Although I did love the mix and match skills ability of the original SWG. It's what made it unique (one of the things anyway).

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by New_to_MMO

    but who cares if they whine? if they don't like it, then don't be a jedi! it seems like a good way to keep the population of jedi down to a minimum.

    Because they had more than 4 publishes devoted to them exclusively.. plus nerfs all around. Think of the bug fixes and content they could have added if they didn't have to placate whining jedi.

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  • AnkorAnkor Member Posts: 258

    its going to be a KOTOR MMO

  • AnkorAnkor Member Posts: 258

    jedi had a big part in ruining SWG

    FACT

  • SelothSeloth Member Posts: 388

    Jedi as they were at first did nothing to wreck swg.

    there was serious penalties for revealing that you were a jedi, only when the masses found out how to become a jedi and the devs eased the negatives did jedi start to be a problem.

    with perma-death, saber-tef most jedi stayed very very much in the shadows. they should have gone futher in my opinion and made it saber-death to use a saber in a public place.

    what really wrecked swg was that the devs felt that only jedi should be alpha, devs felts that the only way to "balance" things was to nerf  and then nerf more.

    (mind you this is only my opinion)

  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,770



    Originally posted by Ankor

    jedi had a big part in ruining SWG
    FACT



    Because almost everyone wanted to be jedi.  And everyone that didnt want to be jedi became one anyway because of lack of content.  So in a way you are right.  However, it wasnt the people playing jedi that ruined the game. It was the implementation of jedi into the game without any other content that contributed to ruining SWG.  There are multiple reasons SWG failed.

    The biggest flaw was the timeline.  They chose a timeline when jedi/force sensitive beings were supposed to be in hiding yet they tried to squeeze it into the game.  The main reason SOE gave for the timeline they chose is because it is the height of the galactic civil war.  However, very little focus or effort was put into the GCW.  There never should have been any neutral option in the game IMHO.  Everyone should have started out as either rebel or imperial for better immersion and development of the GCW. 

    Im gonna stop right there because I could go on all night and it has all been said already. 

     

    P.S.  a KOTOR MMO would be awesome IMO.  my favorite non-mmo rpg ever.

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  • TaucetiTauceti Member Posts: 168

    Hi all,

    Well I liked the Pre-CU SWG the most and thought it had a lot of potential and could have lasted years with some minor fixes plus a lot more content and a true GCW. That aside, one option I'd like to see for the SWG2 is for it to take place durnign the Knights of The Old Republic time period during the Sith WAR. There would be Jedi and Sith, but you would also have other professions. The things I would like in any MMORPG is the following;

    1. True Character Customization.
    2. Multiple races/sepcies to choose from.
    3. Multiple Profession / Class option with more of a open skill based system as part of it along with Multi-classing
    4. Lots of Content and a Good quest system
    5. A true War system [if the time period calls for it]
    6. PvP option [but have it mean something, not a giant paintball contest which is what the game had.]
    7. True environmental immersion [not just swimming in and under water, Jumping, but flying in air and space, and the ability to interact with the environment I.E...like if I shoot a steam pipe hot steam will come out and do damage to anything/one in the area next to it.]
    8. I want the game to look good too.

    Well thats about it for now...lol.

    GL,

    Tauceti

  • FignarFignar Member CommonPosts: 417

    Don't blame the jedi, blame the Developers for listening to the whiners and it wasn't just the jedi, every time someone found out a strong point of a profession and used it in pvp people whined to have it nerfed and a majority of the time the devs listened to the whiners and nerfed it.

    When jedi were introduced into the system, they were rare and it was hard to level up, i know because i unlocked in the original system and leveled up to guardian i never showed off my jedi only once i actually showed it to one of my friends because i didn't want any one to know i had one. Then the devs fooked it up by revealing how the system worked and giving away holos hence the holo grind started. If they kept it quiet and changed the number of profs required to unlock and added some random stuff in there every few months and kept it secert you wouldn't have so many people trying to be jedi or jedi running around.

    Lack of content forced alot of people to go the jedi path because they had nothing else to do, lame expansions didn't cut it for them. So you can't blame people playing jedi for ruining the game, its all SOE's fault for not delivering content and adding fixes and revamps for the other professions and spending resources on covert game overhauls.

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  • caine6621caine6621 Member UncommonPosts: 210

    /agree

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  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118
    All I want is pre-cu, nothing else will do.  

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  • duggoduggo Member Posts: 387



    Originally posted by chlaos
    All I want is pre-cu, nothing else will do.  


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  • MSCavMSCav Member UncommonPosts: 141

    Servers for the Clone Wars where you can start as a Jedi (but make them wimpy until they get to the higher levels).

    Servers for the Imperial Ownage years where becoming a Jedi is pretty non Exsistent (make it extremly hard)

    Servers for the future in Star Wars where Jedi are coming back and mix the old Holocron system with the Village.

    Heck, just give me PRE CU! ::::01::

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  • treed0223treed0223 Member Posts: 84

    Basically, Jedi were the beginning of the end in Galaxies, led to "hologrinding" and made everything geared towards them.  After that the CU came, and basically screwed everything up, including the GCW, which was a big reason why I played.  I resubscribed a couple times, just to see how it was going and it kept getting worse and worse.  Then I figured I'd try the trial for the NGE, I won't go into that because it was sad how bad it had become.

    If they do make a next SWG I hope it doesn't have ANY Jedi unless it is balanced and is in the CORRECT TIME FRAME for them to be there, and it should be hard to become one, and very hard to play as one.  With great power comes great responsibility, not any Joe Schmoe clicking a little button saying "Im Iconic Hooray!"

    Jedi were a horrible idea for SWG in the first place...why?  BECAUSE ALL OF THEM WERE DEAD if it followed the movie correctly..except Vader, the Emp and Luke (Not sure about Obi-Wan and Yoda)...and if Vader found out there was any Jedi he would have had them killed, Imperial or Rebel...

    This game was handled so poorly, when it had so much potential.  Basically what I'm saying is that it shouldn't have been handled by SOE and if they do make a SWG2, it better be handled by a different company.  Oh and also I want them to put in working AT-AT's so I can walk around in one, that'd be coo.

    Till the day they make a second one, we'll all point and laugh as they put more and more steroids in the dead horse.

  • genevisagenevisa Member Posts: 27

    Many, many, so called "UNCLE OWENS" !!!!!!!!!!!!

    i want a medic to heal my wounds after the fight .......

    i want a band to help me chill out after war .......

    i want a chef to fill my belly .........

    i want traders to supply me with excellent equipment .......

    i want a ch to train a mount and a cute little pet for me .....

    ....i want the "UNCLE OWENS"......  i am willing to pay for their services ..... and when i am tired of fighting i will become an uncle owen myself......

    i want strong jedi which have gone through hard trials, are merciless hunted and have to pay a high price (if not a total r.i.p. maybe a rest for one week?) when caught

    I WANT A TEF !!!

    stupid,stupid soe/la      a mmorpg should not be only about fighting and given stories,there are many other games that offer this....i hope for an online game with a place for those uncle owens which make the virtual world colourful .. if it is swg2(NOT from soe, obviously they are unable to make a complex game), then be it

    if there comes a next star wars mmorpg i hope it's not another macmmorpg a la soe-style

  • WufaWufa Member Posts: 132

    The way Iwould like to see that game work is this. I want the original 32 profession system. Balance out the buffs, poisons, and armor issue by limiting each to a much lower level than the limits were. Move to a ham system where you can only do damage to the health bar, kinda like the CU this will take away the mind pool junkies. Bring back BF for entertainers, and allow them to do mind buffs, because specials will take from the action pool, and a little from the mind pool, but these don't incap you they just limit your amount of specials you can run right away. In the original system, crafters, and doctors, and entertainers meant something each profession interacted with eachother, I want that again.

    Make Cantina's mean somehting. Think of episode IV. Why was Han in the cantina, sure he was just chilling, but he was looking for a job too. So picture this, you're in the Mos Eisley cantina, a Trando walks in, and walks up to you asking you to help him. It could be an assaassination, a smuggling, maybe he needs to acquire a certain item but needs a gun hand, anything can happen. Say this is a smuggling issue, you take the package (provided you're a smuggler or have one in your entourage), and deliver it, if you fail the game, and that trando puts a price on your head. So say you fail. You go back to the cantina, and in comes a bothan... he sits across the room, and then draws a blaster and a gun fight ensues. That's what I want in my cantinas ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN! This would have to be randomized so that the missions are different, and that not all the same people get them, but that's what I would love to see. Plus then maybe people will go into the NPC Cities again.


    Make GCW mean something, that stupid metta game the tried at the end wasn't working, they need to do something. My idea is this... On each planet have to "War Zones" one is a PVE and one is PVP (that way noone is forced to PVP to enjoy the GCW which was their goal). In these war zones there are several bunkers, or bases along with troops from both sides. Once every couple of hours (maybe longer) these bases are available to be turned to your side if you complete a set of tasks, for example capture the enemy commander, or take over a base that has a "champion" npc for the PVE section. For the PVP Section it's pretty simple, eliminate the NPC's go into the bunkers, activate the faction switch panel and then hold that base.

    Jedi it's simple. To become a jedi, you need to speak to a long departed Jedi Master, their could be Qui Gon on Naboo, and Obi Wan on Tatooine for the Light side, you can put D'arth Maul on Naboo for the dark side, and a Night Sister or something on Dathomir for the Dark Side. These spawns are random, and you have to have played the game, and mastered atleast one profession. Also this would allow you to go light or dark right away. That way you have to work to find the spawns, and hope you're in the "right place at the right time" and it's like being Chosen to be a jedi. Also only so many each month would be allowed to take the path, thus placing a limit on it.

    Just my 2 cents.

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