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WOW or EQ2?
sayuri2006
Member Posts: 161
Hey guys,
I've been hearing how Eq2 is just getting better and better and WOW is still stuck with the same issues that is causing it to get a bad name for itself, should I play WOW or EQ2??
Some of friends are still on WOW, but we're not sure what to do: stick it out with WOW or start fresh on Eq2?
Any comments on comparing the two games; pros and cons?
I hear Eq2 needs a good system, the recommended specs say at least 2Ghz with 1gb RAM and Direct 9.0x graphics card....is this ok, will the game run fine on these specs, or should I try to get better?
Thx
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You should be able to play the game fine, but I don't know about if you set it to high details and so on.
I'm gonna be boring and say "Whatever suits you best".
I'm going to play EQ2.
If you want some more depth go with EQ2, if you don't care about depth play WoW, it is more polished than EQ2 in my opinion (smoother targeting, smoother animations and so on).
I mainly chose EQ2 over WoW since it's community is much nicer and you can have your own house, also I want to test the PvP which I've heard so much about.
EQ came long before WoW and it wasen't until recently I discovered how much of a copycat WoW is. I always compared stuff with WoW but what did I know lol
Anyway, both good games in general.
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Exactly...what do you know? Bye bye...
I think both games provide similar experiences overall. However, EQ2 does have instanced zones. While this makes since for large cities and raid content, I don't see a good reason for the world environment to be hashed together like that.
I'm curious as to what happens if during a pvp battle, you cross over an instanced boundary. Do you loose your target? That could easily get frustrating.
I'm not sure how much more depth EQ2 has to offer though.
Also, a common complaint is the lack of 'stuff' to do at level 60 in Warcraft. I've been playing since release and still mainly play with my main character. Although I do raid, it's on an occasional basis. I typically prefer world pvp and dragon hunting.
What I am looking forward to is Blizzard's first attempt at mixed casual/raid environment in the next content patch; the Naxxramas Necropolis.
Either way, there's plenty of information out of the net for you to make a decision. Check out the free trials if you can. I hope you enjoy your experience in whichever game you choose.
Ico
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WoW is over rated, EQ2 offers much more game play wise and the new pvp system blows WoWs out of the water.
Care to expound on your pronouncement of EQ2 pvp system 'blowing WoW's out of the water'?
Ico
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$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Just curious, what is it SOE is doing with EQ2 that is making it better? Please, only leave me answers from an objective stand point and with good reason. I won't listen to anything like, "Nothing L0Lz!!1111" or "EQ2 pwnz0rz WoW, nuff said."
Thanks.
To me WOW and EQ2 are almost identical games.
I have not been following the progression of EQ2 since I just started to get into it. They have added/changed alot of things though, what has come to my acknowlage is that they have revamped many parts of the game, but for the better (what I've heard), and they just added PvP into the game which you might think would have been there from start, but at least they cared enough to implement it.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Well, one thing is you won't see much of the above leet speak in the forums unlike WoW's. (I play both).
EQ2:
2 expansions
2 adventure packs
Removed archtypes (no longer need to reach 20 to get to your end class, you get to jump right in now at level 1 as the class you wanted).
Tons more solo/small group content.
Mail system added, cross Freeport/Qeynos mailings avaliable.
PVP system includes some features that many have asked for in wow such as taunt causes target to change target to taunter for few moments.
Combat skills and talents have the ability to react completely different in PVP than PVE. So that changes to PVP do NOT effect PVE.
Max raid size, 24 people.
Vitality (Rested) system but better, you don't have to logout to get it or have to be at an inn.
You can jump off a damn griffon!
Added a lot more flight paths to make travel easier.
Removed a LOT of access quests, now level based.
Removed group EXP debt.
Removed shard/corpse recovery.
Massively reduced EXP debt. (1-2 blue kills generally gets rid of it).
Increased EXP rewards for quests (sometimes triple).
Added a lot more quests.
Alternate advancement system You know, sorta like the AAs from EQ1 only better. It doesn't reduce your exp gained.
Level cap is now 70, was 50 at release.
I dunno about the pvp system as I'm not a big pvper. You'll need to visit their website for that.
The best thing about EQ2 I think is the development cycle. They don't take months and months to add something simple like a LFG menu system. I find most of their changes are to GET more customers so over all good.
Well, thats what I could think of off hand.
I still play WoW cause my friends won't let it go. It's like the old EQ1 people who just couldn't stop playing cause they had so much invested. I think EQ2 is a much better game and the people "generally" seem more mature. Not to say they all are but I've just had worse luck in WoW. I also find the 24 person cap on raids to be MUCH more appealing. I also find that EQ2 doesn't really require me to raid to get decent gear but thats another matter and not "new".
Cheers!
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When it comes to WoW, I wont say it is a downright bad game (although I personally think so, having played it for a year while EQ2 got its act together, and being a 5 year EQ1 vet), the two are just for two totally different types of people.
EQ2 does take a good system. Regarding the specs, a higher cpu is always better, but yes at least 2ghz.
For video its not just a dx9c issue - you also are required to have pixel and vertex shaders or the game wont even launch (which means no Geforce 2s allowed!). You will need at least 128mb on board video memory to function reasonably, but 256 really helps (and those are getting cheaper now, like the pny geforce6600 gt with 256mb ram)
While it runs fine on 1gig of ram (what i use myself), it often times has a footprint of about 800mb, so bumping up to 1.5 would be a big plus (plan to myself when i can).
With an AMD 2400 xp, geforce 6600 256mb, and 1gig of ram I am able to run in general situations at a pretty nice graphical setting (balanced minus shadows, havent tried any higher, can run with shadows but just not worth the performance hit). gotta drop it for big crowds of course, but thats the norm unless you are really higher end. Could kick it up some more with more ram, but its at a good point even now.
thx for all the good replies, especially regarding system specs. I don't want to get all the upgrades only to find out I need this or I should have needed more of this. I've tried looking for specs for the game but I found a lack of information here. I'm surprised since EQ2 seems to be quite a heavy game for graphics, more so than WOW.
My question is then, why do the pictures and screenshots of EQ2 look kinda crap? Even the WOW screenshots. one can see good graphics but why not EQ2? Are the pictures and screenshots just taken on a poor graphics setting or is it just the quality of the picture itself?
Well, one thing is you won't see much of the above leet speak in the forums unlike WoW's. (I play both).
EQ2:
2 expansions
2 adventure packs
Removed archtypes (no longer need to reach 20 to get to your end class, you get to jump right in now at level 1 as the class you wanted).
Tons more solo/small group content.
Mail system added, cross Freeport/Qeynos mailings avaliable.
PVP system includes some features that many have asked for in wow such as taunt causes target to change target to taunter for few moments.
Combat skills and talents have the ability to react completely different in PVP than PVE. So that changes to PVP do NOT effect PVE.
Max raid size, 24 people.
Vitality (Rested) system but better, you don't have to logout to get it or have to be at an inn.
You can jump off a damn griffon!
Added a lot more flight paths to make travel easier.
Removed a LOT of access quests, now level based.
Removed group EXP debt.
Removed shard/corpse recovery.
Massively reduced EXP debt. (1-2 blue kills generally gets rid of it).
Increased EXP rewards for quests (sometimes triple).
Added a lot more quests.
Alternate advancement system You know, sorta like the AAs from EQ1 only better. It doesn't reduce your exp gained.
Level cap is now 70, was 50 at release.
I dunno about the pvp system as I'm not a big pvper. You'll need to visit their website for that.
The best thing about EQ2 I think is the development cycle. They don't take months and months to add something simple like a LFG menu system. I find most of their changes are to GET more customers so over all good.
Well, thats what I could think of off hand.
I still play WoW cause my friends won't let it go. It's like the old EQ1 people who just couldn't stop playing cause they had so much invested. I think EQ2 is a much better game and the people "generally" seem more mature. Not to say they all are but I've just had worse luck in WoW. I also find the 24 person cap on raids to be MUCH more appealing. I also find that EQ2 doesn't really require me to raid to get decent gear but thats another matter and not "new".
Cheers!
first thing, i go to the WoW forums frequently and rarely see leet speak
second thing, for people calling wow a copy cat to EQ2 i think this post above proves its the other way around
wow has rested XP, EQ2 adds rested XP
wow has no experience debuff after death, EQ2 takes away their debuff
wow is mostly solo, EQ2 adds a large amount of solo material
i mean come on now, WoW while taking alot of elements from previous MMO's has added alot themselves and this shows it.
im not over powered! look it took me 10 minutes to kill that guy
wow of course!
so $OE can finally go out of business like is should
6 million people cant be wrong =D
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
Well, one thing is you won't see much of the above leet speak in the forums unlike WoW's. (I play both).
EQ2:
2 expansions
2 adventure packs
Removed archtypes (no longer need to reach 20 to get to your end class, you get to jump right in now at level 1 as the class you wanted).
Tons more solo/small group content.
Mail system added, cross Freeport/Qeynos mailings avaliable.
PVP system includes some features that many have asked for in wow such as taunt causes target to change target to taunter for few moments.
Combat skills and talents have the ability to react completely different in PVP than PVE. So that changes to PVP do NOT effect PVE.
Max raid size, 24 people.
Vitality (Rested) system but better, you don't have to logout to get it or have to be at an inn.
You can jump off a damn griffon!
Added a lot more flight paths to make travel easier.
Removed a LOT of access quests, now level based.
Removed group EXP debt.
Removed shard/corpse recovery.
Massively reduced EXP debt. (1-2 blue kills generally gets rid of it).
Increased EXP rewards for quests (sometimes triple).
Added a lot more quests.
Alternate advancement system You know, sorta like the AAs from EQ1 only better. It doesn't reduce your exp gained.
Level cap is now 70, was 50 at release.
I dunno about the pvp system as I'm not a big pvper. You'll need to visit their website for that.
The best thing about EQ2 I think is the development cycle. They don't take months and months to add something simple like a LFG menu system. I find most of their changes are to GET more customers so over all good.
Well, thats what I could think of off hand.
I still play WoW cause my friends won't let it go. It's like the old EQ1 people who just couldn't stop playing cause they had so much invested. I think EQ2 is a much better game and the people "generally" seem more mature. Not to say they all are but I've just had worse luck in WoW. I also find the 24 person cap on raids to be MUCH more appealing. I also find that EQ2 doesn't really require me to raid to get decent gear but thats another matter and not "new".
Cheers!
you must be full of shit. i've never seen any leet speak except in these forums, where losers who can no longer afford wow come to bitch. =D
why pay to play a game you dont like? that is so incredibly idiotic... why would anyone listen to you when you reason like that?
--people who believe in abstinence are unsurprisingly also some of the ugliest most sexually undesired people in the world.--
WoW hands down...
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
you must be full of shit. i've never seen any leet speak except in these forums, where losers who can no longer afford wow come to bitch. =D
why pay to play a game you dont like? that is so incredibly idiotic... why would anyone listen to you when you reason like that?
I was just going to point out that this is one of the people from the WoW community. I will agree from everything I have seen that the community is much better in eq2. Chuck norris is famous on wow servers and I still dont' understand that.
I will have to say that both games are rather similar. The combat works a good deal the same. One of the biggest differences in the 2 games is EQ2's crafting system is way more advanced. Lets see...EQ2 does have alot more higher end content after level cap.
It's more group oriented than WoW by far. If you are level 25+ your not doing crap unless your in a group. This isn't my opinion these are just truths about EQ2. It is much more difficult to run than WOW. I have a 3700amd 64bit, 1gig of ram, and a 6800gs and I still can't crank the graphics all the way up. I can get close but not hardly there. If I had more ram I could run it on the highest setting with shadows turned off.
The grind is probably about twice as long as the grind in wow...if you aren't a little bit hardcore then I dont' know what you will think about leveling. The pvp is basically open pvp everywhere. If you die you lose a large amount of the money that you have on you and an item from your bag. The classes are also very much alike in the two games. No one should say that eq2 stole from wow or wow stole from eq2 because they weren't the first my friends. MMORPG's have been around along time and other games had the same classes. This is one thing I noticed about my real life friends that play WoW they think it was the first one ever made or something lol "heartbreaker"-------it's not
Translating the question:
Best tutorial (WoW) or best Guild oriented game (EQ2)?
I hope you can answer that question for yourself. Both are nice and do what they do well. For me, any game with raiding enforcement is going to the garbage can without any other considerations.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I will have to say that EQ2 is probably your best bet if you like large groups working together. You will find that the combat isn't hardly as fast as it is in wow but this isn't a bad thing. In mmorpg's it's not about twitch based gaming it's about working together and using strategy and using your knowledge of the game, such as what to do in each situation.
It's bizarre how people cannot see the facts of the mmorpg's, everytime you state facts people start twitching and rotating them so they sound absolutely the best to the game.
Accept the games for what they ARE, don't care if you wish it was like other games cus it ain't!
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Wow was a much more enjoyable game to play for me than EQ2.
EQ2 has made changes, but only to bring it to be more like WoW. They have a bunch of bugs, a lack of immersive content, and you have to group to do just about anything.
Which is the opposite of WoW... which is a bug free (I have experienced ONE and it was fixed in a day), I can't even do 1/4 of the content in WoW and it is friendly to solo AND group play.
As far as endgame... WoW has stuff to do. That's the ONLY game I've ever played that had endgame content of ANY sort.
And as far as PVP goes, I don't do it. someone else will have to judge.
Of course EQ2 is run by $OE, and they ruined Star Wars... so that's enough for me.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
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Having played both I have to say WoW hands down.
EQ2 was a half assed product, and it still is. That's why they have so many patches, and have to rewrite the combat system every few months.
To put it simply WoW is more fun, more polished, and for most has more longevity. That's why it has 5,000,000+ players. There are exceptions as always, and obviously there are biases on this forum.. if you want more unbiased opinions of the two games I suggest you check a site like gamerankings.com and read the reviews. You'll see that they too are heavily in favor of WoW.
Love the WOW basher.. I used to be one for a minute there as well untill I came to my senses and realized that this game even with all its flaws its 50 times better then anything out there.. I tried EQ2 twice as a matter of fact when it first came out right before WOW beta(fun times) and last week.... All I can say is that while its not a bad game, there is just something about it that makes me not feel it.. I actually had to make myself sit there and play the game, instead of wanting to be there and not leave the screen like it used to be for me in WOW. Maybe its the fact that the combat is dull and not as faced paced like it is in WOW and the classes just didnt seem to fit me. In WOW I actually could have fun playing damn near ever class but in EQ2 the classes just didnt have what I wanted plus the combat was Blah.......
All in all I will say that while I hate WOW for not having meaningfull PVP it is far and away better then EQ2 and another other MMORPG out there... Combat just makes the freaking game so damn fun.. Only other game that has combat as good as WOW is probably COX(City of hero's/villians) but diffently not EQ2.
EQ2 is a decent game but after playing WOW its like eating Steak all your damn life and then all of a sudden your stuck with Roman Noddles.
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As for me, i would not play any of them, EQ2 is from SOE ( which is famous for ruining their games ) and WoW lacks alot of things in general, WoW is a great game leveling a character up, beyond that it's nothing.
as for EQ2 i haven't played the game and never will, simple because one day it will go down the deep hole and only fans will keep playing it, i suggest going for DAOC ( dark age of camelot ) it has by far the best ever PVP system from all of the other midieval MMORPGs.
or if you like Si-Fi you might as well try EVE-online, Comparing the depths of the games, EVE-Online is by far the deepest game i've ever played, it simply never ends, neither by it's skills' skilling system nor by the adventures you can have with friends ( if you get any ).
although it's realy hard to play EVE-online from scratch since you'l be very weak and need to skill up learning skills first and all, but after a couple of months it will be very fine.
to sum it up
1- don't bother with WoW or EQ2 ( both games have absolutely no depths into neither gameplay nor PVP system )
2- try Dark age of Camelot or EVE-Online
as for DAOC, in certain zones there are things which will always keep you coming back to them ( named mobs that drop some good loot ), unlike WoW.