Originally posted by admriker444 Take that fanbois The joke's on you since the first coaster award was during pre-cu....which just happens to be where you want to roll back to
Sorry babe.. the joke is on the ones still playing.
And that'd be you wouldn't it?
Sorry I can't imagine anyone with even half a brain would want either of the previous incarnations of SWG back. They were all horribly boring and tedious added to the fact that you couldn't be a jedi and if you want to play Star Wars I doubt most people would be bothered to want to play anything but.
Enjoy your pity party. You and the EvE guys should get together on how to ruin a good website and write a book.
I guess he has a point... I mean now, SWG only requires one third of a brain. He should know!
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Originally posted by Elnator Agree with both Coasters but anyone blaming SOE for MxO needs help, badly. SOE only bought MxO to get the DC license so they could do their new superhero based MMO. Holding them responsible for the development of a flop game is silly. They didn't write it, they bought it.
I do agree that both the NGE and MxO deserve their 'coaster' awards but ridiculing SOE for MxO is a bit silly and shows how much bias this guy has against the company. However, he gave it a "Coaster" Pre-NGE and that I dissagree with. Both Pre-CU and post CU SWG were very fun gameplay. It wasn't for everyone but 250k+ people enjoyed it. That's hardly a 'coaster'.
WAY off here man... It was Mythic who shopped it around (with approval), and the deal was for The Matrix IP only. The DC deal has been in discussions for YEARS, and with several companies. This deal was rumored (reported on rumor sites) to have been inked well before the MxO purchase. SOE's stated goal was to turn The Matrix into another EQ: We buy and make cash. They once were good at that, but now...
That's not the way it was sold to ME when I gt the e-mails from them. It was "We bought the DC rights, and by the way, we also got MxO too.
They bought the license. Since WB didn't want to just have MxO without the chance for growth with the DC thing, they got OUT of the MMORPG business.
I stand corrected, by Shayde. SOE went after the DC licence and got MxO as a fringe benefit on the deal. My mistake. Bottom line they only got MxO because they got the DC Licence.
And I'm not sure where MX13 gets his information but Mythic never had anything to do with MxO. It was produced by Monolith and then released by WB and Sega as an MMO. When it completely flopped they, SOE, picked it up for a song to throw on it's access pass. WB didn't want to deal with licencing issues for MxO and SOE wanted another genre for it's Access Pass.
Bottom line: SOE didn't write it.
And I'd dispute the statement that MxO was 'much better' before SOE got it. Have they even made any changes other than merging servers?
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Originally posted by Elnator And I'd dispute the statement that MxO was 'much better' before SOE got it. Have they even made any changes other than merging servers?
Well, the merging servers added a mess of lag.
Plus, they totally derailed the events. Events were what made MxO, and it went from stready push to barely trickling out. Content thrived on MxO, and that screetched to a near halt.
That, and their "combat upgrade" scares the piss out of me.
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I'm of the personal opinion (as a beta-tester for MxO) that MxO never had a chance right out of the gate. The gameplay was flawed on a fundamental level right from the start. I don't think SOE could make it any worse than it was before even if they tried.
Originally posted by dpf1978 I'm of the personal opinion (as a beta-tester for MxO) that MxO never had a chance right out of the gate. The gameplay was flawed on a fundamental level right from the start. I don't think SOE could make it any worse than it was before even if they tried.
Then you couldn't have played the nge.
Don't forget.. NEO is now considered "Iconic"
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Originally posted by admriker444 Whose idea was it to base a game upon a franchise that had not only peaked but embittered and disenchanted its fan base with some of the most disappointing movies ever ? Such a monumentally poor decision is unprecedented in gaming."
Unfertunently there are people who didn't like the trilogy, however, most of those people are the kind that like happy flowery endings and the like. I also loved the idea of an MMO from it, however I don't like the way they went about it. MxO wasn't horrible, it had it's moments while I played and the events were a blast, however it did lack a lot of customization when it comes to designing your character and a bit too many gender based restrictions (okay I can see why they don't want a guy wearing a dress, but come on, what the hell does a hat have to do with gender? havn't they SEEN the club scene, I'm pretty sure most the guys there were not wearing traditional 'male' club gear).
Originally posted by Elnator Agree with both Coasters but anyone blaming SOE for MxO needs help, badly. SOE only bought MxO to get the DC license so they could do their new superhero based MMO. Holding them responsible for the development of a flop game is silly. They didn't write it, they bought it.
I do agree that both the NGE and MxO deserve their 'coaster' awards but ridiculing SOE for MxO is a bit silly and shows how much bias this guy has against the company. However, he gave it a "Coaster" Pre-NGE and that I dissagree with. Both Pre-CU and post CU SWG were very fun gameplay. It wasn't for everyone but 250k+ people enjoyed it. That's hardly a 'coaster'.
WAY off here man... It was Mythic who shopped it around (with approval), and the deal was for The Matrix IP only. The DC deal has been in discussions for YEARS, and with several companies. This deal was rumored (reported on rumor sites) to have been inked well before the MxO purchase. SOE's stated goal was to turn The Matrix into another EQ: We buy and make cash. They once were good at that, but now...
That's not the way it was sold to ME when I gt the e-mails from them. It was "We bought the DC rights, and by the way, we also got MxO too.
They bought the license. Since WB didn't want to just have MxO without the chance for growth with the DC thing, they got OUT of the MMORPG business.
I stand corrected, by Shayde. SOE went after the DC licence and got MxO as a fringe benefit on the deal. My mistake. Bottom line they only got MxO because they got the DC Licence.
And I'm not sure where MX13 gets his information but Mythic never had anything to do with MxO. It was produced by Monolith and then released by WB and Sega as an MMO. When it completely flopped they, SOE, picked it up for a song to throw on it's access pass. WB didn't want to deal with licencing issues for MxO and SOE wanted another genre for it's Access Pass.
Bottom line: SOE didn't write it.
And I'd dispute the statement that MxO was 'much better' before SOE got it. Have they even made any changes other than merging servers?
Oh come on, grow up. You knew what company I meant, I just typed the wrong name. Whoops. My bad. Oh well.
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
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Sorry babe.. the joke is on the ones still playing.
And that'd be you wouldn't it?
Sorry I can't imagine anyone with even half a brain would want either of the previous incarnations of SWG back. They were all horribly boring and tedious added to the fact that you couldn't be a jedi and if you want to play Star Wars I doubt most people would be bothered to want to play anything but.
Enjoy your pity party. You and the EvE guys should get together on how to ruin a good website and write a book.
I guess he has a point... I mean now, SWG only requires one third of a brain. He should know!
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
That's not the way it was sold to ME when I gt the e-mails from them. It was "We bought the DC rights, and by the way, we also got MxO too.
They bought the license. Since WB didn't want to just have MxO without the chance for growth with the DC thing, they got OUT of the MMORPG business.
I stand corrected, by Shayde. SOE went after the DC licence and got MxO as a fringe benefit on the deal. My mistake. Bottom line they only got MxO because they got the DC Licence.
And I'm not sure where MX13 gets his information but Mythic never had anything to do with MxO. It was produced by Monolith and then released by WB and Sega as an MMO. When it completely flopped they, SOE, picked it up for a song to throw on it's access pass. WB didn't want to deal with licencing issues for MxO and SOE wanted another genre for it's Access Pass.
Bottom line: SOE didn't write it.
And I'd dispute the statement that MxO was 'much better' before SOE got it. Have they even made any changes other than merging servers?
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Well, the merging servers added a mess of lag.
Plus, they totally derailed the events. Events were what made MxO, and it went from stready push to barely trickling out. Content thrived on MxO, and that screetched to a near halt.
That, and their "combat upgrade" scares the piss out of me.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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That was some funny stuff. Like watching someone stub their toe really hard. You wince, you say "oh man...", but you laugh... and laugh..
Then you couldn't have played the nge.
Don't forget.. NEO is now considered "Iconic"
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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That's not the way it was sold to ME when I gt the e-mails from them. It was "We bought the DC rights, and by the way, we also got MxO too.
They bought the license. Since WB didn't want to just have MxO without the chance for growth with the DC thing, they got OUT of the MMORPG business.
I stand corrected, by Shayde. SOE went after the DC licence and got MxO as a fringe benefit on the deal. My mistake. Bottom line they only got MxO because they got the DC Licence.
And I'm not sure where MX13 gets his information but Mythic never had anything to do with MxO. It was produced by Monolith and then released by WB and Sega as an MMO. When it completely flopped they, SOE, picked it up for a song to throw on it's access pass. WB didn't want to deal with licencing issues for MxO and SOE wanted another genre for it's Access Pass.
Bottom line: SOE didn't write it.
And I'd dispute the statement that MxO was 'much better' before SOE got it. Have they even made any changes other than merging servers?
Oh come on, grow up. You knew what company I meant, I just typed the wrong name. Whoops. My bad. Oh well.
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!