Typical of NCSoft products...after my experiences with Arenanet I decided I'd write off this set of companies entirely with their Nexon rules behind the scenes and series of hyped up media nonsense on the forefront. Typical. Can we say Atari ET all over again? Why yes yes we can.
This wasn't an NCsoft problem, this was a clear Carbine problem and still is.
Carbine is fully owned by NCSoft. That makes it NCSoft problem.
I have no idea about all this drama, what I do know is that I recently decided to try WS out and have been pleasantly surprised by a decent fun little game, guess I really have no buisness posting on this forum for all you industry insiders and experts.
Scorchien said:
Ya know Wildstar is an OK game and not defending IT ... But alleged report is pretty lame .. Put your name to it or stfu .. And MMORPG loses credeibility for reporting and adding fuel to a useless fire .. from some cowards ..
Typical of NCSoft products...after my experiences with Arenanet I decided I'd write off this set of companies entirely with their Nexon rules behind the scenes and series of hyped up media nonsense on the forefront. Typical. Can we say Atari ET all over again? Why yes yes we can.
This wasn't an NCsoft problem, this was a clear Carbine problem and still is.
Carbine is fully owned by NCSoft. That makes it NCSoft problem.
It makes it NCSoft's responsibility. Meaning, Carbine created the problem, but NCSoft now has to fix it.
Scorchien said:
Ya know Wildstar is an OK game and not defending IT ... But alleged report is pretty lame .. Put your name to it or stfu .. And MMORPG loses credeibility for reporting and adding fuel to a useless fire .. from some cowards ..
MMORPG.com did get the main fact of this story corroborated by a known community manager. This gives them 3 sources. 2 anonymous and 1 named source. For gaming journalism this isn't half bad.
Scorchien said:
Ya know Wildstar is an OK game and not defending IT ... But alleged report is pretty lame .. Put your name to it or stfu .. And MMORPG loses credeibility for reporting and adding fuel to a useless fire .. from some cowards ..
Oh, please. Anyone in the industry knows that paper pusher execs are just as chicks**T to openly hand out pink slips. Half or more of the team come back to find their key cards are no longer valid, and they're lucky if they get to take one or two boxes of their belongings home. A little anonymous forum revenge is about all they have as an option after they slightly recover from the betrayal.
I agree with the part about him stating his real name.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
Scorchien said:
Ya know Wildstar is an OK game and not defending IT ... But alleged report is pretty lame .. Put your name to it or stfu .. And MMORPG loses credeibility for reporting and adding fuel to a useless fire .. from some cowards ..
If they put their names - they'd never get hired by any game company again. Game companies are very incestuous - publicly they are competitive but privately they are a very tight knit industry as devs and employees end up working at many different game companies over time.
Everyone knows everyone in the gaming biz, and nobody likes a whistle blower.
Then you keep your Fin mouth shut .. .. So apparently a tight knit industry of cowards ... And i call BS there are people out there that would think more of a person that stands in front of there statements .. Just like any other industry ...
Whistleblowers never tend to be revered as 'upstanding guys'. Take Edward Snowden for example, a bit extreme I know, but if you put your name to it, more likely than not you will be ostricized from the very industry that you rely on to making a living out of.
I personally think that they should put their names to it, however I can completely understand why they didn't.
Typical of NCSoft products...after my experiences with Arenanet I decided I'd write off this set of companies entirely with their Nexon rules behind the scenes and series of hyped up media nonsense on the forefront. Typical. Can we say Atari ET all over again? Why yes yes we can.
This wasn't an NCsoft problem, this was a clear Carbine problem and still is.
Carbine is fully owned by NCSoft. That makes it NCSoft problem.
It makes it NCSoft's responsibility. Meaning, Carbine created the problem, but NCSoft now has to fix it.
NCsoft only know one way of fixing stuff in the west, shutting it down.
Iselin: And the next person who says "but it's a business, they need to make money" can just go fuck yourself.
"techical difficulties" were/are least of WSs problems. Completely wrong game at a wrong time is what killed it. "techical difficulties" just added on the fire.
meonthissite said:
Typical of NCSoft products...after my experiences with Arenanet I decided I'd write off this set of companies entirely with their Nexon rules behind the scenes and series of hyped up media nonsense on the forefront. Typical. Can we say Atari ET all over again? Why yes yes we can.
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The only thing NCSoft is guitly of is they let Gaffney talk them into buying WS/Carbine. Even all media (WS was most hyped game in history) and plenty of fanbois drunk the cool juice.
GW2/Arenanet has results behind them, damn great results, WS has a trail of fail. And none of it is NCSofts fault, in fact they gave 2nd chance to WS, if it was me ii would have shut it down instead.
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Next time you make an MMO please decide which kind of players you want to cater for. Splitting it half-half ends up pleasing no one.
Oh, and spend some time to optimize the damn code. Most of your customers play games on toasters.
Godz of War I call Thee
Ya know Wildstar is an OK game and not defending IT ... But alleged report is pretty lame .. Put your name to it or stfu .. And MMORPG loses credeibility for reporting and adding fuel to a useless fire .. from some cowards ..
Says the person with an alias.
Ya know Wildstar is an OK game and not defending IT ... But alleged report is pretty lame .. Put your name to it or stfu .. And MMORPG loses credeibility for reporting and adding fuel to a useless fire .. from some cowards ..
MMORPG.com did get the main fact of this story corroborated by a known community manager. This gives them 3 sources. 2 anonymous and 1 named source. For gaming journalism this isn't half bad.
Unless of course EVERYONE.. currently working at Carbine quits or gets terminated and they rename the company to something completely different.
Then maybe.. but whatever the new company releases will have faildust all over it..
I agree with the part about him stating his real name.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
DMKano said:
Scorchien said:
Ya know Wildstar is an OK game and not defending IT ... But alleged report is pretty lame .. Put your name to it or stfu .. And MMORPG loses credeibility for reporting and adding fuel to a useless fire .. from some cowards ..
If they put their names - they'd never get hired by any game company again. Game companies are very incestuous - publicly they are competitive but privately they are a very tight knit industry as devs and employees end up working at many different game companies over time.
Everyone knows everyone in the gaming biz, and nobody likes a whistle blower.
Then you keep your Fin mouth shut .. .. So apparently a tight knit industry of cowards ... And i call BS there are people out there that would think more of a person that stands in front of there statements .. Just like any other industry ...
Whistleblowers never tend to be revered as 'upstanding guys'. Take Edward Snowden for example, a bit extreme I know, but if you put your name to it, more likely than not you will be ostricized from the very industry that you rely on to making a living out of.
I personally think that they should put their names to it, however I can completely understand why they didn't.
Typical of NCSoft products...after my experiences with Arenanet I decided I'd write off this set of companies entirely with their Nexon rules behind the scenes and series of hyped up media nonsense on the forefront. Typical. Can we say Atari ET all over again? Why yes yes we can.
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The only thing NCSoft is guitly of is they let Gaffney talk them into buying WS/Carbine. Even all media (WS was most hyped game in history) and plenty of fanbois drunk the cool juice.
GW2/Arenanet has results behind them, damn great results, WS has a trail of fail. And none of it is NCSofts fault, in fact they gave 2nd chance to WS, if it was me ii would have shut it down instead.