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What are the top 10 mmos by subscribers?

funconfuncon Member UncommonPosts: 279
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I know WoW is probably 1. What is 2-10?
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    i dont know, but i would say FFXIV is second for obvious reasons, its popular and subscription only.




  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Subscriber base does not make an MMO good, it just means they make a lot of money.  People throw money away every day, doesn't prove quality... not by a long shot.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    Pepeq said:
    Subscriber base does not make an MMO good, it just means they make a lot of money.  People throw money away every day, doesn't prove quality... not by a long shot.

    start your own thread on the subject.
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  • funconfuncon Member UncommonPosts: 279
    Pepeq said:
    Subscriber base does not make an MMO good, it just means they make a lot of money.  People throw money away every day, doesn't prove quality... not by a long shot.
    Well it must be good of many people are subscribing 
  • VexiusxVexiusx Member UncommonPosts: 212
    Pepeq said:
    Subscriber base does not make an MMO good, it just means they make a lot of money.  People throw money away every day, doesn't prove quality... not by a long shot.
    No one asked about that like someone else already mention start your own thread about that subject.

    WoW is def n1 though.
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    Pepeq said:
    Subscriber base does not make an MMO good, it just means they make a lot of money.  People throw money away every day, doesn't prove quality... not by a long shot.
    Wasn't saying they were good, I don't think. Just what the rankings are.

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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    funcon said:
    I know WoW is probably 1. What is 2-10?
    If you consider the international market, WoW isn't #1 by a mile.

    Not even with their made up numbers bloated with chinese 50 cent internetcafe tickets that technically never expire and count as an "active subscription" in Blizzard's PR drivel.

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  • Nayr752Nayr752 Member UncommonPosts: 172
    World of Warcraft is number one, not sure about 2-10 though.
  • funconfuncon Member UncommonPosts: 279
    Nayr752 said:
    World of Warcraft is number one, not sure about 2-10 though.
    Where would you put ESO? I am currently playing that while taking a long break from WoW and I am loving ESO. It is so immersive and graphics look nice.
  • Nayr752Nayr752 Member UncommonPosts: 172
    I don't know where to put ESO, I only played it for the first month.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    You'd have to find a reputable MMORPG ranking site.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    edited February 2016
    You'd have to find a reputable MMORPG ranking site.
    No such thing.

    Not their fault, while it would be easy for them to do so, most MMOs don't release specifics on number of subs, even CCP went dark once the numbers took a downward trend. 

    So you are left with at best educated guesses about the numbers.

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    edited February 2016
    funcon said:
    Nayr752 said:
    World of Warcraft is number one, not sure about 2-10 though.
    Where would you put ESO? I am currently playing that while taking a long break from WoW and I am loving ESO. It is so immersive and graphics look nice.
    Its difficult to include multi-business-model games on a subscription only debate. If x number of subscribers in ESO/swtor/etc unsubscribe for a month, the game lost x number of subscribers, but didnt necessarily lose those players as they can keep playing without the sub. And if they decide to use the cash shop instead of the sub, they still count as paying players but are not subscribers anymore.




  • funconfuncon Member UncommonPosts: 279
    rojoArcueid said:
    funcon said:
    Nayr752 said:
    World of Warcraft is number one, not sure about 2-10 though.
    Where would you put ESO? I am currently playing that while taking a long break from WoW and I am loving ESO. It is so immersive and graphics look nice.
    Its difficult to include multi-business-model games on a subscription only debate. If x number of subscribers in ESO/swtor/etc unsubscribe for a month, the game lost x number of subscribers, but didnt necessarily lose those players as they can keep playing without the sub. And if they decide to use the cash shop instead of the sub, they still count as paying players but are not subscribers anymore.
    Yeah forgot about that. I should of asked what are the top 10 mmos by player base.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    If it logs to a server you can keep stats on it.  I do think it's a closely keep secret.  Even if different companies have their own record keeping styles.  Actual monthly payments for subs should be easy to track.

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  • MeleconMelecon Member UncommonPosts: 74
    This is going to be very subjective and based solely on opinion and bias. Is it even worth speculating? 
  • funconfuncon Member UncommonPosts: 279
    Melecon said:
    This is going to be very subjective and based solely on opinion and bias. Is it even worth speculating? 
    Just trying to see what are the most popular mmos out there and if ESO is one of them.
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  • KabulozoKabulozo Member RarePosts: 932
    Lineage 1 is probably the second one in number of subs.
  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Turned the stone and looked beneath it .... free to play, was all it said. 

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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,198
    How many games actually have subs?  Active users for P2W who knows.
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,069
    Volgore said:
    funcon said:
    I know WoW is probably 1. What is 2-10?
    If you consider the international market, WoW isn't #1 by a mile.

    Not even with their made up numbers bloated with chinese 50 cent internetcafe tickets that technically never expire and count as an "active subscription" in Blizzard's PR drivel.
    Not sure what you mean by internet cafe tickets that never expire. For internet cafes and game-rooms, players had to have logged in during the prior 30 days in order to be counted as subscribers:

    "Subscriber Definition: World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules."
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    Amathe said:
    Turned the stone and looked beneath it .... free to play, was all it said. 
    I got that.  Good one  :awesome: 

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  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    bad thread considering there isn't even 10 mmorpg's that have a sub fee.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • CopperfieldCopperfield Member RarePosts: 654
    darkfall will kill world of warcraft
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