Hi-Rez GM Quits After Ranting Over Selfishness of Suicide

SBFord · April 2016

Hi-Rez GM Quits After Ranting Over Selfishness of Suicide

Hi-Rez streamer Brandon 'DM Brandon' Nance has left the company after ranting to a donor about his attempted suicide. The viewer had made a $5 donation to Nance and indicated that watching his streams had helped him overcome a suicide attempt. After that, Nance went on a tirade about his controversial views on the subject.

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toidimaet · April 2016

Good Riddance to him! Suicide and the mental health issues that can lead to it should be treated with the care and consideration of any serious illness.
As for being selfish, this arsehole doesn't even have a clue what he is talking about.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out, knob.

Kyleran · April 2016

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

AnnaTS · April 2016

What ? This person is clearly totally clueless on this subject i don't know what i would of done if he of done this to me wow i am shocked someone would say that.

There is one thing i will say if you have never been in that situation it's best to keep your mouth shut it's something you need to experience yourself he's such an idiot.

Nanfoodle · April 2016

Kyleran said:

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

First off the guy was a total jerk. Fact you think his message was spot on shocks me. I always thought of you as an intelligent person. I will just hold on to the fact that maybe you are naive of the subject. Mental health is a real issue and sometimes the smallest thing can help someone cling into life and then he thanks him for being that small thing and donated as a thanks. In his tirade, he may have removed that one small thing that was helping him get through his problems. IMO he was evil for being that insensitive.

Rzep · April 2016

Kyleran said:

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

How about you live with my depression , severe OCD and agoraphobia and then start saying suicide is not acceptable.

filmoret · April 2016

This guy reminds me of Hancock. Gee thanks for saving my life but why you being such an ass about it?

Lazarus71 · April 2016

As someone who has mental health issues I can say that it is in no way a selfish act. It is an escape for some from what seems to be at that moment an inescapable and uncontrollable living hell of sorts.

Blinkenn · April 2016

This week on Streamers say the darndest things!
Maybe its a sign of the times, millennials growing up only getting moral and social cues from the likes of PewDiePie and SodaPoppin.

Sovrath · April 2016

Kyleran said:

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

Well, that's certainly an opinion.

Either way I would have fired him on the spot. What the heck is wrong with people. Be professional.

Billr00 · April 2016

Here's my two cents ... who gives a damn about the words spoken by some twitch streamer .. why are we treating him/them like a celebrity? they play games and bored people watch them play games .. when did they become responsible role model types? why is this even news? this is about the last thing in the world I needed to read about today lol .. but of course I had to finish the reply chain to the end ..

caveat follows: I think suicide is serious business, and of course the guy should have handled it differently, but the person who posted about how the twitch stream aided in him making the decision to not commit suicide smacks of someone desperately wanting attention.. if he helped you so much why would you feel the need to tell him publicly on his channel? just sayin

k61977 · April 2016

Deekins said:

Kyleran said:

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

For most it isn't so much a selfish thing, it is a they have no other way of knowing what to do or see any other way out. I've had a lot of friends/family that thought about it, you just have to get them help or explain to them that there is a way to deal with what they are suffering with. It isn't always just, well they are doing it to be selfish. No it isn't that, it is a serious issue most the time. Taking the time to talk to them and explain there are ways to get passed what they are feeling helps so much.

So no it isn't always a selfish thing, it is a they see no other way of dealing with the issue/life thing.

While I understand where you are coming from suicide is a selfish thing in all but the most extreme cases. This is coming from someone who has experienced a family member doing it twice within 3 years and dieing and being brought back both times. The person committing the act in not taking in to effect how this affects all those around them in most cases, it is the fastest or easiest way they see to end a bad situation.

Most of the time the ones that are serious about it don't let you know by talking to you or may hide that they are even contemplating it till it's to late. The ones that talk are the ones that probably wouldn't have done it to start with and they were actually seeking help.

The only time that suicide is not selfish is when it is dealing with someone who has a medical condition and is dying painfully slowly over time. This is where things like assisted suicide come into play and is or should be acceptable. This isn't some out of no where decision made solely by the person committing the act, it normal involves family who say goodbye and are ready to accept what is happening.

As for what the guy in the story did, he was wrong in the way he addressed the situation and should have been terminated. You never attack someone who has committed suicide or contemplating it .

Albatroes · April 2016

This a-hole is probably the reason I always face off against 3 tanks each time I do assault.

Amathe · April 2016

Nance's comments are an argument for bringing back public floggings.

Kyleran · April 2016

Rzep said:

Kyleran said:

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

How about you live with my depression , severe OCD and agoraphobia and then start saying suicide is not acceptable.

No, not acceptable, all treatable mental health conditions. I hope you and the two people who agreed with you are reaching out and getting help from friends, family, church and professionals to manage your issues.

AnnaTS · April 2016

While I understand where you are coming from suicide is a selfish thing in all but the most extreme cases. This is coming from someone who has experienced a family member doing it twice within 3 years and dieing and being brought back both times. The person committing the act in not taking in to effect how this affects all those around them in most cases, it is the fastest or easiest way they see to end a bad situation.

Most of the time the ones that are serious about it don't let you know by talking to you or may hide that they are even contemplating it till it's to late. The ones that talk are the ones that probably wouldn't have done it to start with and they were actually seeking help.

The only time that suicide is not selfish is when it is dealing with someone who has a medical condition and is dying painfully slowly over time. This is where things like assisted suicide come into play and is or should be acceptable. This isn't some out of no where decision made solely by the person committing the act, it normal involves family who say goodbye and are ready to accept what is happening.

As for what the guy in the story did, he was wrong in the way he addressed the situation and should have been terminated. You never attack someone who has committed suicide or contemplating it .

This is the type of reply i would expect from someone who knows someone who has attempted to committee suicide you will get a differrent response from people who actually experience the situation first hand.

People may think i am being harsh but i can't have sympathy for someone who thinks that the only suicide that isn't selfish is assisted.

What i do have sympathy for are the young children who got bullied into suicide i suppose they were just being selfish for not being bullied enough.

To come out with a blank statement that any other suicide except for assisted is selfish just shows how clueless you are even though you know someone who has been in a situation like this i'm not surprised about that though i faced the same situation with my family.

Kyleran · April 2016

Nanfoodle said:

Kyleran said:

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

First off the guy was a total jerk. Fact you think his message was spot on shocks me. I always thought of you as an intelligent person. I will just hold on to the fact that maybe you are naive of the subject. Mental health is a real issue and sometimes the smallest thing can help someone cling into life and then he thanks him for being that small thing and donated as a thanks. In his tirade, he may have removed that one small thing that was helping him get through his problems. IMO he was evil for being that insensitive.

What I am is a person who battled through severe anxiety and depression last year, contemplated suicide and worse, and with the help of my family, friends, employer, professional counseling and God have fought my way back to full recovery.

As one who's "lived it" and survived I feel qualified in what I speak.

But I apologize for responding, its a sensitive issue which likely should not be discussed on these forums so this will be my last reply on the subject.

AnnaTS · April 2016

Yeah the church doesn't like suicide it's a sin so i can understand why some people would see it as selfish.

Nanfoodle · April 2016

Kyleran said:

Nanfoodle said:

Kyleran said:

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

First off the guy was a total jerk. Fact you think his message was spot on shocks me. I always thought of you as an intelligent person. I will just hold on to the fact that maybe you are naive of the subject. Mental health is a real issue and sometimes the smallest thing can help someone cling into life and then he thanks him for being that small thing and donated as a thanks. In his tirade, he may have removed that one small thing that was helping him get through his problems. IMO he was evil for being that insensitive.

What I am is a person who battled through severe anxiety and depression last year, contemplated suicide and worse, and with the help of my family, friends, employer, professional counseling and God have fought my way back to full recovery.

As one who's "lived it" and survived I feel qualified in what I speak.

But I apologize for responding, its a sensitive issue which likely should not be discussed on these forums so this will be my last reply on the subject.

Sorry you went through that, you are not alone as many suffer this. I wont go into my personal experiences with this topic but regardless, we never know the level of someone's pain and suffering. As my mum always said, if you dont have something nice to say, dont say anything. This is what this streamer should have done. For all we know, the guy donating as a thanks, may have ended his life after this. With a topic like this, its never black and white, right and wrong.

Amathe · April 2016

Regardless of one's views on the subject, you don't rant and antagonize someone who has recently experienced suicidal ideations. That's just wrong.

laserit · April 2016

Deekins said:

Kyleran said:

While his message was delivered in an unecessarily caustic manner, it was spot on IMO.

Suicide is not acceptable, and it is a selfish thing to do. (the "stupid" remark was uncalled for)

Dismissing him was the right move, these WWF/MMA/Internet tough guy attitudes need to be given the heave ho, so civility can return to human interactions.

For most it isn't so much a selfish thing, it is a they have no other way of knowing what to do or see any other way out. I've had a lot of friends/family that thought about it, you just have to get them help or explain to them that there is a way to deal with what they are suffering with. It isn't always just, well they are doing it to be selfish. No it isn't that, it is a serious issue most the time. Taking the time to talk to them and explain there are ways to get passed what they are feeling helps so much.

So no it isn't always a selfish thing, it is a they see no other way of dealing with the issue/life thing.

IDK

I had an adult cousin who shot himself in the head in his parents basement with his father's rifle and left himself for his mother to find.

What that did to my Aunt, I couldn't imagine

I thought that was very selfish.

Zen00 · April 2016

So what you're saying is, there's a GM position open at Hi-Rez?

How do I get hired into that position. :P

Samhael · April 2016

The article says he was a streamer but the headline says he was a GM. Which is which?

Sovrath · April 2016

Kyleran said:

As one who's "lived it" and survived I feel qualified in what I speak.

While I'm sorry to hear that and while I"m glad you got better, you aren't qualified to speak for everyone. I strongly suspect that everyone's "illness" is probably a more personal thing.

Octagon7711 · April 2016

He's got issues of his own, his own demons to deal with as clearly seen.

Cramit845 · April 2016

Was his stream a work related event or something he did on his downtime? I feel like there is some context missing. Honestly, I'm just tired of folks being fired for their personal life but not sure if that is the case here.

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