"Smedly has confirmed Koster leaving in a $OE press release... He also DENIES loosing the SWG contract... "
I saw someone else kinda say that as well...
Where in that post does Smedley confirm it or SOE?
Sorry I'm hopin its true about Raph but..
All I saw was a link to the gamespot article which says "sources" at soe confirmed it.. but I still never actually saw a Smedley post or a news release from SOE.
I'd just like to actually read their version rather than the websites with SOE sources.
Not that I am saying its not true... I just like to read some of the SOE press fluff it usually has more fantasy than most fantasy novels.
Originally posted by Antarious "Smedly has confirmed Koster leaving in a $OE press release... He also DENIES loosing the SWG contract... " I saw someone else kinda say that as well... Where in that post does Smedley confirm it or SOE? Sorry I'm hopin its true about Raph but.. All I saw was a link to the gamespot article which says "sources" at soe confirmed it.. but I still never actually saw a Smedley post or a news release from SOE. I'd just like to actually read their version rather than the websites with SOE sources. Not that I am saying its not true... I just like to read some of the SOE press fluff it usually has more fantasy than most fantasy novels.
Here is the link to Smeds press release... Its also at the top of this page.. The link i gave is from the SWG forums.
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars.. Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons... Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
Originally posted by Wickes "1) Yes Raph is leaving SOE. It's not some big dramatic thing - it's simple.. he's at the end of his contract with SOE and he wants to try some new things that realistically we can't do here at SOE right now. The truth is Raph is an incredibly talented and amazingly creative person and he has 1000 great ideas. He's done some great things in this industry and I know he'll continue to do great things. Raph's been with SOE for 5 years. I've enjoyed working with him a lot and he's made some great contributions. At the end of the day we have a finite amount of resources and projects that we can have in development at any one time. He wants to try some new stuff that we can't do at this stage.. we have a lot of things we are trying to do as a company right now. I'm always surprised by the amount of rampant speculation that goes on about stuff like this. 2) No - in fact LucasArts isn't "pulling the Star Wars" license or anything of the kind. We have a very long term deal and things are fine between our companies. It's complete and utter fabrication. I feel like we need extra-special tin-foil hats in the shape of Darth Vader's mask or something. What happens is one website writes something - then 5 more link to it.. so it must all of a sudden be true. I wish it worked that way."Smed __________________John SmedleyPresident, Sony Online Entertainment
"Here is the link to Smeds press release... Its also at the top of this page.. The link i gave is from the SWG forums"
No... that's my point.
I see a thing where someone post something they say is a quote from something smed posted..
I see a link to a thread that smed doesn't post in AND..
I can find no post by Smed on any sony forum...
Thus I want a link to his actual post not someone quoting a post no one can link to...
*edit*
Nevermind I found where the post came from... you know maybe its just me but I think some people need to take a logic class or have it a requirement in college.
Smedley doesn't address this issue on any Sony forum (the official channels). But runs over to the Fire of Heaven (FoH) guild site to confirm it publicly....
and in his second point is talking about Tin Foil darth vader masks. When have you ever seen a public statement from Smedley that included anything like that?
Yes FoH did some power guild firsts in EQ... They also had a branch off running around on Hyjal in WoW at release but...
I fail to see Smedley making a public disclosure on their publicly accessable website... that he won't make on the Sony sites...
just seems a tad odd and the fact people say its him and immediantly assume its officially confirmed really bothers me...
Ya Raph probably did leave it was way past time for that.
But the idea anyone thinks Smedley is going to confirm something like this on FoH guild site and not the Sony site needs to take a few steps back. I was told when I asked why it wasn't confirmed that they probably were dodging bad press (some of you same posters replied to me that way).
Yet the President of the company is going to go to a Guild website to confirm it and not the companies.. even tho its obviously leaked all around now.
Unless Smedley IS being fired this would just be beyond stupid. Even if he is being fired he better have enough money to never want to work in the industry again.
Originally posted by Antarious "Here is the link to Smeds press release... Its also at the top of this page.. The link i gave is from the SWG forums" No... that's my point. I see a thing where someone post something they say is a quote from something smed posted.. I see a link to a thread that smed doesn't post in AND.. I can find no post by Smed on any sony forum... Thus I want a link to his actual post not someone quoting a post no one can link to... *edit* Nevermind I found where the post came from... you know maybe its just me but I think some people need to take a logic class or have it a requirement in college. Smedley doesn't address this issue on any Sony forum (the official channels). But runs over to the Fire of Heaven (FoH) guild site to confirm it publicly.... and in his second point is talking about Tin Foil darth vader masks. When have you ever seen a public statement from Smedley that included anything like that? Yes FoH did some power guild firsts in EQ... They also had a branch off running around on Hyjal in WoW at release but... I fail to see Smedley making a public disclosure on their publicly accessable website... that he won't make on the Sony sites... just seems a tad odd and the fact people say its him and immediantly assume its officially confirmed really bothers me... Ya Raph probably did leave it was way past time for that. But the idea anyone thinks Smedley is going to confirm something like this on FoH guild site and not the Sony site needs to take a few steps back. I was told when I asked why it wasn't confirmed that they probably were dodging bad press (some of you same posters replied to me that way). Yet the President of the company is going to go to a Guild website to confirm it and not the companies.. even tho its obviously leaked all around now. Unless Smedley IS being fired this would just be beyond stupid. Even if he is being fired he better have enough money to never want to work in the industry again. It would be considered beyond unprofessional...
No more professional than smed getting into it with people over at penny arcade. I wouldnt put it past him to do soemthing like that. Why post it on $OE forums (SWG) where people are locked out and banned. Better to take to to forums that have more people reading it.
ok.. as far as you wanting the origional link.. here you go...Its over at gamespot.
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars.. Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons... Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
"It is Smed, he's posted at the FoH forums quite a bit, as you can see here "
Tried to reply to this thread 6 times and the site eats every reply.
So I'll make a short one since you popped this in.
If that is Smed and he is publicly announcing that on a guild site... When SOE hasn't even ackknowleged it officially...
There is no company I have worked for that wouldn't fire that person on the spot. That would be one of the biggest breaches of proffessionalism you can make.
If it was a very private forum that wasn't going to be leaked all over the net maybe but... Even Raph says he won't discuss that kind of company business that way and this before he was supposedly leaving SWG. (If you read raphs site much when things like that come up he says he won't discuss them for the very reason of you just don't do things that way in the world of business).
Then again one of the rumors was Smedley was fired so maybe... he doesn't care anymore. /shrug
The Raph thing I can believe, he's more happy working on a game as lead dev then sitting in a big office. Tho I think he's still overrated, and I remember him for the mess that was UO in 1998/1999 and I lay most of SWG's faults with him. I feel he can be a good part of anytime, as long as there's someone there to keep him from his stupid ideas going into the game.
As for LA pulling SWG away from SOE I think this is wishful thinking from some who believe LA will come in and give SWG to someone that will bring back the Pre-CU system (note a system that has not been used for a year now) It also sounds insane cuz LA has said along with SOE that the NGE was worked on 'by' LA not SOE! Well my understanding anyhow... Then again I tend not to believe 'unknown moles' as well...
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i would say, "doubtful voices" are natural.
Well, maybe Smed registered here "privat", to lurk a bit on the fence without getting immediatly hit by the flying rotten tomatos.
And if this is Smed, here is my short one for the night to think about: It is not important, Mr. Smedley, if this all is true or not, important is, that the way you operate SWG has lead to the most bad press in gaming history. Since games are mostly selling via the "word to mouth", this is already enough reason to worry about.
And last but not least: If your game would be so great, why do we have such discussions and massive subscriberdtrops at all ? Cmon, we all know the subs are more then worse, no1 believes the opposite anymore.
So when "your" game isnt making the money you SHOULD make out of it, you either do: 1. Pay the gap from real subs to wanted subs by yourself 2. You finally stop acting like a completely fullidiot and make a game someone "important" is aksing for: THE ON WHO SHOULD PAY AKA CUSTOMER !
Originally posted by ClaudeFR [quote]Originally posted by Obraik [b]It is Smed, he's posted at the FoH forums quite a bit, as you can see here [url=http://www.fohguild.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=13585][/b][/quote] With a userprofile like this Username: Wickes Rank: Hard Core Member Member Since: September 21, 2004 Last Login: March 23, 2006 Total Posts: 671
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i would say, "doubtful voices" are natural.
I'm not quite sure what you're referring to here? That's not Smeds profile at those forums, if that's what you were meaning. Those forums (like these ones, heh) seem to act a little funky and links seem to sometimes start pointing to something different so it's possible my original link is doing that. This is (should be) Smed's profile at those forums, http://www.fohguild.org/forums/members/smed.html
I do know and agree to the fact that Mr. Smedely does in facto post alot more on the foh forums then on the soe ones.
As i stated before, we now have enought sources of data (data points) that I beleiuve that Ralph has In fact left the Trainwreck as did the Lady mentioned on the gamespot article.
and I suggested they bring them [the donuts sent to Penny Arcade] to Seattle Children's Hospital btw.
I really am solidly against ever doing charity to get good PR. I like the idea of charity for charity's sake. I always like hearing about how some anonymous person donated $300 million to some charity as part of their will.
A good debate is not something I will ever walk away from unless someone is flat out being a jerk... At some point.. if I can't take the heat, I can always just watch American Idol and not respond.
When we make mistakes they quickly become very public. We try to own up to our screwups... Events like the Sleeper are to me the pinnacle of what we should be trying to do and to make... stuff that lets you all have a lasting impact on a virtual world. We haven't always pulled it off just right... but our hearts and our integrity are absolutely in the right place.
Hm... It seems, deep down, he's filled with even more bullsh*t.
Originally posted by ClaudeFR [quote]Originally posted by Obraik [b]It is Smed, he's posted at the FoH forums quite a bit, as you can see here [url=http://www.fohguild.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=13585][/b][/quote] With a userprofile like this Username: Wickes Rank: Hard Core Member Member Since: September 21, 2004 Last Login: March 23, 2006 Total Posts: 671
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i would say, "doubtful voices" are natural. Well, maybe Smed registered here "privat", to lurk a bit on the fence without getting immediatly hit by the flying rotten tomatos.
And if this is Smed, here is my short one for the night to think about: It is not important, Mr. Smedley, if this all is true or not, important is, that the way you operate SWG has lead to the most bad press in gaming history. Since games are mostly selling via the "word to mouth", this is already enough reason to worry about. And last but not least: If your game would be so great, why do we have such discussions and massive subscriberdtrops at all ? Cmon, we all know the subs are more then worse, no1 believes the opposite anymore. So when "your" game isnt making the money you SHOULD make out of it, you either do: 1. Pay the gap from real subs to wanted subs by yourself 2. You finally stop acting like a completely fullidiot and make a game someone "important" is aksing for: THE ON WHO SHOULD PAY AKA CUSTOMER ! Think about it.
ROFL, ummm, how in hell did I get involved in this. I am not Smed, trust me. Good lord, I've only criticized him conitnuously
Originally posted by MikeMB The Raph thing I can believe, he's more happy working on a game as lead dev then sitting in a big office. Tho I think he's still overrated, and I remember him for the mess that was UO in 1998/1999 and I lay most of SWG's faults with him. I feel he can be a good part of anytime, as long as there's someone there to keep him from his stupid ideas going into the game. As for LA pulling SWG away from SOE I think this is wishful thinking from some who believe LA will come in and give SWG to someone that will bring back the Pre-CU system (note a system that has not been used for a year now) It also sounds insane cuz LA has said along with SOE that the NGE was worked on 'by' LA not SOE! Well my understanding anyhow... Then again I tend not to believe 'unknown moles' as well...
How about this thought... $OE denies loosing the SWG contract. Bioware is hiring people with SWG code experience (big leap here). Possible that LA/#OE and Bioware might all be working together to fix the game. If LA trulely beleives in Starwars maybe they are gonna pour some of their own cash into it, bring Bioware on board to breath some new life into the thing, while #OE continues to run it. Just a though.
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars.. Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons... Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
Bioware is to small and inexperienced at handling the back end infustructure, billing and other issues supporting an MMO. SOE, as much as I want to see them have zero input into SWG, does have that knowledge/expierence.
I guess with some of the late's news it looks like there is still a strong relationship between LA and SOE. But, it has occured to me [as I'm sure to others] that there may be another reason that LA is still doing business with SOE and maybe now BIOWARE. LA has the license, SOE has the infrastructures [ie network & servers], and BIOWARE will be the new developers for SWG {if !!! Bioware is working on SWG}. Some may ask why BIOWARE would bother with SWG. Well if!!! BIOWARE is working on developing another Star Wars game, then it may be part of a deal to try and bring SWG back to its pervious glory, in one form or another [most want a PRE-CU game], in exchange for getting the Star Wars rites. Some may ask why would LA want to do any of this, well keep in mind if SWG2 does comes out in a couple of years it may face some stiff competition around that time period with Star Trek Online and Stargate-SG1 [both mmorpgs] coming out about then. So they are going to need a decent player base willing to play it and since SOE screwed up SWG it has lost a lot of players and has gotten a lot of bad press. So if LA is smart they would seek a developer to bring what most of the player base wants in a SWG game. All in order to maintian a good player base who would be willing to play SWG2, without having to worrie about a negative press of the pervious game.
Originally posted by Obraik Looking at this website for facts is like looking at one of those Woman mags for facts
Ignorance is bliss. I really don't understand, if the game is doing so well and everything is great why do you feel the need to constantly defend it. If everything was going so well you wouldn't have time to post here and be the Champion of SWG, because according to you the game is full of players and things to do. You're like a Thunderheart mini-me but you don't get paid. I really think you just do it to draw attention to yourself or just to go against the majority opinion and act like some spiteful little kid aka Wepps.
Obraik has never once been pettty, childish are hurtful toward those people who felt slighted by the NGE. He defends the game he enjoys and never once has rubbed anyones nose in anything. You are the spiteful little kid who can't just understand for 2 seconds that maybe someone else in the world doesn't think the exact same way you do.
its a *game* people....an aging, fleeting game that is really meaningless in the greater scheme of things. So much speculation in here on what other people are thinking, what companies are "capable" of doing and how "The Man" is somehow trying to screw you out of running around swinging your laser sword. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Laughable. No seriously....I'm laughing my ass off right now. You're 30 years old...you know you are....you should be ashamed of yourself. 8^)
Here's a thought: IMO some of you guys really need to get a life. Go outside, read a book or get laid or something. Sheesh.
I believe to many, it became a soap opera. The drama, the tragedy, the deceit. The struggle of underdog customers versus the evil SOE. Many people watch soap operas, and they are meaningless as well.
its a *game* people....an aging, fleeting game that is really meaningless in the greater scheme of things. So much speculation in here on what other people are thinking, what companies are "capable" of doing and how "The Man" is somehow trying to screw you out of running around swinging your laser sword. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Laughable. No seriously....I'm laughing my ass off right now. You're 30 years old...you know you are....you should be ashamed of yourself.
Here's a thought: IMO some of you guys really need to get a life. Go outside, read a book or get laid or something. Sheesh.
Ok the way you make it sound is that ALL your life is comprised of is the outside, books, and getting laid? Wow, what a pointless life. Heres a thought, if you have time to post on a topic such as this, then maybe you should take your own advice. But oh wait, you are a being of infinite knowledge that MUST give their imput on a subject they probably dont care about anyways... Seriously why even bother taking the time to type in a topic if you think everyone is a loser and needs to get laid?
1)Bioware has made no mention of what kind of an mmo project they are working on. It could be anything as the bioware folks have even said it could be a My Little Pony MMO.
2)Read the "Jobs at Bioware Austin" pages. They are looking for people with at least 5 years experience and have worked on at least 1 released mmo. Also, they are looking for every part of mmo design and development from the server up through world building etc. Nowhere have they said they are only hiring SWG devs, or looking for SWG experience. a) this leads me to believe that they are building their own game from the ground up rather than taking some other game that has been run through the ringer by most every gamer and mmo site out there worldwide. b)SOE and SWG in particular have been bleeding developers for years sometimes to other internal project s like eq2 but from what I have read developers leave soe because of the enviornment there.
3)Bioware having no experience in mmo's does not mean that they would look to someone like sony for back-end support. Look at SWG with nearly ghost towns for servers they can not address the lag issues that have existed for years. a) How much mmo experience did Blizzard have? Becuase they had none did they run to someone like Sony? b)experience in mmo's does not equal success. Look at Electronic Arts, thought they run and have been running UO for nearly a decade have they had even 1 successful mmorpg to be released since?
4)WoW did not become huge because of marketing blitzes or hype. It became the behemoth it is because of word of mouth. SWG has HUGE marketing campaigns going on presently but talk with anyone who has been there for an extended amount of time and they will tell you that those noobies that come in because of the commercials leave shortly afterwards. Think about it. Why would any company, especially one run by 2 very intelligent people, partner with a company that has made a name for itself like Sony online have? Especially when your company has a great relationship with the community because all of the games that have come out of your studio have been, well, pretty damn good. Not only would a move to partner with soe be just outright stupid from a common sense perspective but also from a business perspective.
its a *game* people....an aging, fleeting game that is really meaningless in the greater scheme of things. So much speculation in here on what other people are thinking, what companies are "capable" of doing and how "The Man" is somehow trying to screw you out of running around swinging your laser sword. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Laughable. No seriously....I'm laughing my ass off right now. You're 30 years old...you know you are....you should be ashamed of yourself.
Here's a thought: IMO some of you guys really need to get a life. Go outside, read a book or get laid or something. Sheesh.
Actually Im 37. And yes I do have a life outside of the gaming world. I run my own business and I usually read around 1-2 books a month, mostly motivational or educational. I am a father of twin boys and I DO get laid on a regular basis....sometimes too regular
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"Smedly has confirmed Koster leaving in a $OE press release... He also DENIES loosing the SWG contract... "
I saw someone else kinda say that as well...
Where in that post does Smedley confirm it or SOE?
Sorry I'm hopin its true about Raph but..
All I saw was a link to the gamespot article which says "sources" at soe confirmed it.. but I still never actually saw a Smedley post or a news release from SOE.
I'd just like to actually read their version rather than the websites with SOE sources.
Not that I am saying its not true... I just like to read some of the SOE press fluff it usually has more fantasy than most fantasy novels.
Here is the link to Smeds press release... Its also at the top of this page.. The link i gave is from the SWG forums.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swggpdiscussion&message.id=631911
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
i thought smedley lived in austin? O_o
"Here is the link to Smeds press release... Its also at the top of this page.. The link i gave is from the SWG forums"
No... that's my point.
I see a thing where someone post something they say is a quote from something smed posted..
I see a link to a thread that smed doesn't post in AND..
I can find no post by Smed on any sony forum...
Thus I want a link to his actual post not someone quoting a post no one can link to...
*edit*
Nevermind I found where the post came from... you know maybe its just me but I think some people need to take a logic class or have it a requirement in college.
Smedley doesn't address this issue on any Sony forum (the official channels). But runs over to the Fire of Heaven (FoH) guild site to confirm it publicly....
and in his second point is talking about Tin Foil darth vader masks. When have you ever seen a public statement from Smedley that included anything like that?
Yes FoH did some power guild firsts in EQ... They also had a branch off running around on Hyjal in WoW at release but...
I fail to see Smedley making a public disclosure on their publicly accessable website... that he won't make on the Sony sites...
just seems a tad odd and the fact people say its him and immediantly assume its officially confirmed really bothers me...
Ya Raph probably did leave it was way past time for that.
But the idea anyone thinks Smedley is going to confirm something like this on FoH guild site and not the Sony site needs to take a few steps back. I was told when I asked why it wasn't confirmed that they probably were dodging bad press (some of you same posters replied to me that way).
Yet the President of the company is going to go to a Guild website to confirm it and not the companies.. even tho its obviously leaked all around now.
Unless Smedley IS being fired this would just be beyond stupid. Even if he is being fired he better have enough money to never want to work in the industry again.
It would be considered beyond unprofessional...
No more professional than smed getting into it with people over at penny arcade. I wouldnt put it past him to do soemthing like that. Why post it on $OE forums (SWG) where people are locked out and banned. Better to take to to forums that have more people reading it.
ok.. as far as you wanting the origional link.. here you go...Its over at gamespot.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6146555.html
Just my opinion.
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
"It is Smed, he's posted at the FoH forums quite a bit, as you can see here "
Tried to reply to this thread 6 times and the site eats every reply.
So I'll make a short one since you popped this in.
If that is Smed and he is publicly announcing that on a guild site... When SOE hasn't even ackknowleged it officially...
There is no company I have worked for that wouldn't fire that person on the spot. That would be one of the biggest breaches of proffessionalism you can make.
If it was a very private forum that wasn't going to be leaked all over the net maybe but... Even Raph says he won't discuss that kind of company business that way and this before he was supposedly leaving SWG. (If you read raphs site much when things like that come up he says he won't discuss them for the very reason of you just don't do things that way in the world of business).
Then again one of the rumors was Smedley was fired so maybe... he doesn't care anymore. /shrug
The Raph thing I can believe, he's more happy working on a game as lead dev then sitting in a big office. Tho I think he's still overrated, and I remember him for the mess that was UO in 1998/1999 and I lay most of SWG's faults with him. I feel he can be a good part of anytime, as long as there's someone there to keep him from his stupid ideas going into the game.
As for LA pulling SWG away from SOE I think this is wishful thinking from some who believe LA will come in and give SWG to someone that will bring back the Pre-CU system (note a system that has not been used for a year now) It also sounds insane cuz LA has said along with SOE that the NGE was worked on 'by' LA not SOE! Well my understanding anyhow... Then again I tend not to believe 'unknown moles' as well...
[quote]Originally posted by Obraik
[b]It is Smed, he's posted at the FoH forums quite a bit, as you can see here [url=http://www.fohguild.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=13585][/b][/quote]
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i would say, "doubtful voices" are natural.
Well, maybe Smed registered here "privat", to lurk a bit on the fence without getting immediatly hit by the flying rotten tomatos.
And if this is Smed, here is my short one for the night to think about:
It is not important, Mr. Smedley, if this all is true or not, important is, that the way you operate SWG has lead to the most bad press in gaming history.
Since games are mostly selling via the "word to mouth", this is already enough reason to worry about.
And last but not least:
If your game would be so great, why do we have such discussions and massive subscriberdtrops at all ?
Cmon, we all know the subs are more then worse, no1 believes the opposite anymore.
So when "your" game isnt making the money you SHOULD make out of it, you either do:
1. Pay the gap from real subs to wanted subs by yourself
2. You finally stop acting like a completely fullidiot and make a game someone "important" is aksing for:
THE ON WHO SHOULD PAY AKA CUSTOMER !
Think about it.
Claude
While you all do not know me from adam,
I do know and agree to the fact that Mr. Smedely does in facto post alot more on the foh forums then on the soe ones.
As i stated before, we now have enought sources of data (data points) that I beleiuve that Ralph has In fact left the Trainwreck as did the Lady mentioned on the gamespot article.
Time will tell if the rest of the story is true.
Sounds like it's him:
Hm... It seems, deep down, he's filled with even more bullsh*t.
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Wickes, sorry !!
Im such an idiot, now i understand:
Your post was a QUOTE from the FOH posting, the one from Smedley.
I thought it was an original he posted here under the Nick "WICKES".
But i decided:
You are to blame, you didnt used "QUOTE" or a hint....muaaahhhaaaa
Claude
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
THere is some sense that LA/$OE/Bioware.
Bioware is to small and inexperienced at handling the back end infustructure, billing and other issues supporting an MMO.
SOE, as much as I want to see them have zero input into SWG, does have that knowledge/expierence.
So, it is possible.
Hi all,
I guess with some of the late's news it looks like there is still a strong relationship between LA and SOE. But, it has occured to me [as I'm sure to others] that there may be another reason that LA is still doing business with SOE and maybe now BIOWARE. LA has the license, SOE has the infrastructures [ie network & servers], and BIOWARE will be the new developers for SWG {if !!! Bioware is working on SWG}. Some may ask why BIOWARE would bother with SWG. Well if!!! BIOWARE is working on developing another Star Wars game, then it may be part of a deal to try and bring SWG back to its pervious glory, in one form or another [most want a PRE-CU game], in exchange for getting the Star Wars rites. Some may ask why would LA want to do any of this, well keep in mind if SWG2 does comes out in a couple of years it may face some stiff competition around that time period with Star Trek Online and Stargate-SG1 [both mmorpgs] coming out about then. So they are going to need a decent player base willing to play it and since SOE screwed up SWG it has lost a lot of players and has gotten a lot of bad press. So if LA is smart they would seek a developer to bring what most of the player base wants in a SWG game. All in order to maintian a good player base who would be willing to play SWG2, without having to worrie about a negative press of the pervious game.
Just my thoughts,
Tauceti
Obraik has never once been pettty, childish are hurtful toward those people who felt slighted by the NGE. He defends the game he enjoys and never once has rubbed anyones nose in anything. You are the spiteful little kid who can't just understand for 2 seconds that maybe someone else in the world doesn't think the exact same way you do.
G A W D
its a *game* people....an aging, fleeting game that is really meaningless in the greater scheme of things. So much speculation in here on what other people are thinking, what companies are "capable" of doing and how "The Man" is somehow trying to screw you out of running around swinging your laser sword. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Laughable. No seriously....I'm laughing my ass off right now. You're 30 years old...you know you are....you should be ashamed of yourself. 8^)
Here's a thought: IMO some of you guys really need to get a life. Go outside, read a book or get laid or something. Sheesh.
I believe to many, it became a soap opera. The drama, the tragedy, the deceit. The struggle of underdog customers versus the evil SOE. Many people watch soap operas, and they are meaningless as well.
Every single stinking rumor I have ever heard about SWG ended up being true in some way, shape or form no matter how outrageous.
Nowadays, I take SWG rumor as fact. If SOE denies it, then I believe it more.
Sure some of the details of these rumors have been wrong in the past, but the essence of the rumors has been true.
Ok the way you make it sound is that ALL your life is comprised of is the outside, books, and getting laid? Wow, what a pointless life. Heres a thought, if you have time to post on a topic such as this, then maybe you should take your own advice. But oh wait, you are a being of infinite knowledge that MUST give their imput on a subject they probably dont care about anyways... Seriously why even bother taking the time to type in a topic if you think everyone is a loser and needs to get laid?
Couple things I wanted to say here:
1)Bioware has made no mention of what kind of an mmo project they are working on. It could be anything as the bioware folks have even said it could be a My Little Pony MMO.
2)Read the "Jobs at Bioware Austin" pages. They are looking for people with at least 5 years experience and have worked on at least 1 released mmo. Also, they are looking for every part of mmo design and development from the server up through world building etc. Nowhere have they said they are only hiring SWG devs, or looking for SWG experience.
a) this leads me to believe that they are building their own game from the ground up rather than taking some other game that has been run through the ringer by most every gamer and mmo site out there worldwide.
b)SOE and SWG in particular have been bleeding developers for years sometimes to other internal project s like eq2 but from what I have read developers leave soe because of the enviornment there.
3)Bioware having no experience in mmo's does not mean that they would look to someone like sony for back-end support. Look at SWG with nearly ghost towns for servers they can not address the lag issues that have existed for years.
a) How much mmo experience did Blizzard have? Becuase they had none did they run to someone like Sony?
b)experience in mmo's does not equal success. Look at Electronic Arts, thought they run and have been running UO for nearly a decade have they had even 1 successful mmorpg to be released since?
4)WoW did not become huge because of marketing blitzes or hype. It became the behemoth it is because of word of mouth. SWG has HUGE marketing campaigns going on presently but talk with anyone who has been there for an extended amount of time and they will tell you that those noobies that come in because of the commercials leave shortly afterwards. Think about it. Why would any company, especially one run by 2 very intelligent people, partner with a company that has made a name for itself like Sony online have? Especially when your company has a great relationship with the community because all of the games that have come out of your studio have been, well, pretty damn good. Not only would a move to partner with soe be just outright stupid from a common sense perspective but also from a business perspective.
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Actually Im 37. And yes I do have a life outside of the gaming world. I run my own business and I usually read around 1-2 books a month, mostly motivational or educational. I am a father of twin boys and I DO get laid on a regular basis....sometimes too regular