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Darian Vorlick leaving CIG

spankybusspankybus Member UncommonPosts: 1,367
edited June 2016 in Star Citizen
As the thread states. A SC personality (frequently seen in ATV) and producer is departing the team. He says he cannot say why he is leaving due to NDA reasons, but also indicates that its not due to anything negative.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/335263/goodbye-darian-and-many-thanks#latest


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  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Member EpicPosts: 1,960
    And another one jumps off the CIG Titanic. 

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    edited June 2016
    "but also indicates that its not due to anything negative."  As per the NDA agreement?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,063
    Octagon7711 said:
    "but also indicates that its not due to anything negative."  As per the NDA agreement?

    No doubt the hush money is good. ;)

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    He has obviously been paid off (sarcasm) 

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  • GrumpyHobbitGrumpyHobbit Member RarePosts: 1,220
    In the MMORPG verse, Black is White and White is Black and even if someone TRIES to stop people jumping to conclusions...they will still jump to conclusions. 

    "The End, Goodbye".

    "OMG Did you hear that. He said The End and then said Goodbye! It obviously wasn't the end otherwise he wouldn't have been able to say Goodbye". 

    "He lied!"
    "It is a scam."
    "We need to sue!"

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    What could possibly be a reason that's positive and violates NDA?

  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    He did say it wasn't something negative and that the company and direction of the game was great.  But yea who makes their employee's sign a NDA over why they leave.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • SirmatthiasSirmatthias Member UncommonPosts: 562

    my guess is a clause in the employees contract that forfeits the lay off package if they disclose they got butt hurt.

  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785
    I've never seen an NDA about why someone is quitting, let alone see them mention it. He could have just said, "I've been offered a really great career opportunity and had to take it! Love you all! Smooches!"

    Instead he's all like, "I'm leaving and everything is perfect, but I can't talk about why I'm quitting because they made me sign an NDA."

    Way to go Darian. L2Quit
  • BalmongBalmong Member UncommonPosts: 170
    GeezerGamer said:
    What could possibly be a reason that's positive and violates NDA?

    It might not be an NDA with CIG, he could have one that's keeping him quiet for the new project he's on. Even name dropping the company is enough to get people hunting all corners of the internet for info.


    I remember when the conspiracy rumors for Fallout 4 started when someone spotted Bethesda employees around Boston.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Balmong said:
    GeezerGamer said:
    What could possibly be a reason that's positive and violates NDA?

    It might not be an NDA with CIG, he could have one that's keeping him quiet for the new project he's on. Even name dropping the company is enough to get people hunting all corners of the internet for info.


    I remember when the conspiracy rumors for Fallout 4 started when someone spotted Bethesda employees around Boston.

    His comment is speaking more about his NDA with CIG not with a new company. Does seem odd that there is an NDA that stops him from saying his reasons as to why the move.
  • BalmongBalmong Member UncommonPosts: 170
    Kefo said:
    Balmong said:
    GeezerGamer said:
    What could possibly be a reason that's positive and violates NDA?

    It might not be an NDA with CIG, he could have one that's keeping him quiet for the new project he's on. Even name dropping the company is enough to get people hunting all corners of the internet for info.


    I remember when the conspiracy rumors for Fallout 4 started when someone spotted Bethesda employees around Boston.

    His comment is speaking more about his NDA with CIG not with a new company. Does seem odd that there is an NDA that stops him from saying his reasons as to why the move.
    Well his work was on SQ42 level design so that could stand to reason. 


    A new NDA is the only thing I could come up with as to why he can't say he's leaving. I know Travis Day wasn't able to say he was going to work on Overwatch, but everyone pretty much new it since it was the only game Blizzard had in the barrel at the time.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    That sounds really bizarre. I don't think I've ever heard anyone decline to name their reason for leaving due to "NDA restrictions"...

    Usually they just go with some obvious BS like "health reasons" or "spending more time with the family" or "persuing new and exciting opportunities".
  • ZaqirZaqir Member UncommonPosts: 55
    Several companies have NDA's when people leave, usually in the form of non competition clauses and such. IE One company doesn't want you leaving for another company only to have you spill their secrets and designs to another before they themselves have time to prep/release things.
  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    "The severance package is really good, so I ain't sayin shit."

    But look at this closer really.  If you can't say why you're leaving because of an NDA, it means that something to do with your work is the reason you're leaving.  Any other reason such as health, family, scheduling, moving home to take care of my aging mother, someone else offered me more money... are all not subject to NDA.

    So clearly this is game related, but he's not going to shit on his former employer because that looks really bad for future employment opportunities.
  • BalmongBalmong Member UncommonPosts: 170
    H0urg1ass said:
    "The severance package is really good, so I ain't sayin shit."

    But look at this closer really.  If you can't say why you're leaving because of an NDA, it means that something to do with your work is the reason you're leaving.  Any other reason such as health, family, scheduling, moving home to take care of my aging mother, someone else offered me more money... are all not subject to NDA.

    So clearly this is game related, but he's not going to shit on his former employer because that looks really bad for future employment opportunities.
    It could be tied to the game, and there's a non compete clause attached to it. But I still get the feeling it's the other company he's going to work for that has him on a new NDA.

    If you go onto social media and say "I'm leaving for a new and exciting position at X developer", but X developer doesn't have a publicly announced game in development, you just let loose bloodhounds on something you weren't ready to show yet.

    A while back, I read an interesting blog for an industry talent scout, his top 3 rules for speaking about an unannounced project were this:

    1) Don't talk about it

    2) Don't talk about it

    3) For the love of god, don't talk about it
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Love all the nice conspiracy theories ;)

    If a person was leaving under negative pretenses with his employer and was concerned about breaking NDA's and/or negatively affecting their future employment with another employer then common sense would dictate that they probably wouldn't say shit.

    On the other hand maybe its all secret code for "My Last Two Paychecks Have Bounced"

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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,328
    It is my understanding that the NDA he refers to is related to his NEW employer. Who shall not be named at this time. Whose project shall not be named at this time. I think that is also the reason why Darian Vorlick still lists himself as a CIG employee on his LinkedIn account and has not yet named his new employer in his profile.


    We will see.


    Have fun
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Balmong said:
    H0urg1ass said:
    "The severance package is really good, so I ain't sayin shit."

    But look at this closer really.  If you can't say why you're leaving because of an NDA, it means that something to do with your work is the reason you're leaving.  Any other reason such as health, family, scheduling, moving home to take care of my aging mother, someone else offered me more money... are all not subject to NDA.

    So clearly this is game related, but he's not going to shit on his former employer because that looks really bad for future employment opportunities.
    It could be tied to the game, and there's a non compete clause attached to it. But I still get the feeling it's the other company he's going to work for that has him on a new NDA.

    If you go onto social media and say "I'm leaving for a new and exciting position at X developer", but X developer doesn't have a publicly announced game in development, you just let loose bloodhounds on something you weren't ready to show yet.

    A while back, I read an interesting blog for an industry talent scout, his top 3 rules for speaking about an unannounced project were this:

    1) Don't talk about it

    2) Don't talk about it

    3) For the love of god, don't talk about it
    Like hourglass said though most people will just say I'm leaving for "personal reason" and no NDA is going to be able to stop you. 

    Also the way he worded it makes it sound like a CIG NDA. "This will be my last week at CIG. Unfortunately I cannot share the reasons why due to employee NDA." 

    He tried to stop the Rumor mill from going into overdrive but he really just succeeded in doing the opposite with his poorly worded first sentence lol
  • BalmongBalmong Member UncommonPosts: 170
    Kefo said:
    Balmong said:
    H0urg1ass said:
    "The severance package is really good, so I ain't sayin shit."

    But look at this closer really.  If you can't say why you're leaving because of an NDA, it means that something to do with your work is the reason you're leaving.  Any other reason such as health, family, scheduling, moving home to take care of my aging mother, someone else offered me more money... are all not subject to NDA.

    So clearly this is game related, but he's not going to shit on his former employer because that looks really bad for future employment opportunities.
    It could be tied to the game, and there's a non compete clause attached to it. But I still get the feeling it's the other company he's going to work for that has him on a new NDA.

    If you go onto social media and say "I'm leaving for a new and exciting position at X developer", but X developer doesn't have a publicly announced game in development, you just let loose bloodhounds on something you weren't ready to show yet.

    A while back, I read an interesting blog for an industry talent scout, his top 3 rules for speaking about an unannounced project were this:

    1) Don't talk about it

    2) Don't talk about it

    3) For the love of god, don't talk about it
    Like hourglass said though most people will just say I'm leaving for "personal reason" and no NDA is going to be able to stop you. 

    Also the way he worded it makes it sound like a CIG NDA. "This will be my last week at CIG. Unfortunately I cannot share the reasons why due to employee NDA." 

    He tried to stop the Rumor mill from going into overdrive but he really just succeeded in doing the opposite with his poorly worded first sentence lol
    Can't argue that last line. It's all just speculation till proven otherwise.

    If I had a nickle for every time text I posted was misinterpreted.....I could probably fund an indie game. lol
  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141
    And another one jumps off the CIG Titanic. 

    Turn over is unacceptable, 100% employee retention is expected. so this clearly means a company is near financial ruin.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    goboygo said:
    And another one jumps off the CIG Titanic. 

    Turn over is unacceptable, 100% employee retention is expected. so this clearly means a company is near financial ruin.
    Damn straight! If I could I would chain them to their desks, have a hole in the ground for them to crap into, some kind of gruel dispensing system and have a taskmaster standing over them 22 hours of the day whipping them (2 hours are allowed for sleeping since I'm not heartless :proud: )
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    edited June 2016
    Erillion said:
    It is my understanding that the NDA he refers to is related to his NEW employer. Who shall not be named at this time. Whose project shall not be named at this time. I think that is also the reason why Darian Vorlick still lists himself as a CIG employee on his LinkedIn account and has not yet named his new employer in his profile.


    We will see.


    Have fun
    And you got this from "due to employee NDA"? What do you know that no one else does? 
  • rawfoxrawfox Member UncommonPosts: 788
    GeezerGamer said:
    What could possibly be a reason that's positive and violates NDA?

    other employer for example, maybe something more serious then a computergame ^^
  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    It could even be the NDA with  CIG has something similar to a non-compete agreement.  Maybe they let him out of that if he doesn't gush about his new job. . . maybe a goat ate his homework?   so many possibilities.

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