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Anyone else scared of the fanbase this game will attract?
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I'm starting to get worried about the fanbase this game will attract mainly because of the way WoW is shaping up and the longer it is out, the more bored people are becoming and the fact that all the pvpers have either quit, or strongly considering it.
I'm predicting that this game MAY be the next big mmorpg game and if that happends, we are bound to get the WoW wave (formerly the cs lot.) If this happends, it can only be a bad thing imo asthe childish players will whine and whine and whine and nearly force the devs to make this a WoW clone where everyone goes crazy over the best armour sets and eventually, have it so that pvp is all done in a playground environment where everyone is safe.
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You've spent 1/4 of a year playing WOW, go out get laid.
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It's kind of a hard thing to debate over.
On one side, you would want W.A.R to be successful over WoW, and attract more players, but on the other hand, as you stated, you would want to prevent some of the less mature players from joining.
In the end, though, I would choose W.A.R gaining that fanbase. If it could be prevented, I know I would try to, but gaining that large of a fanbase would mean W.A.R was doing something right. I know I could find a group of people to play with that acted mature ( California Gamers guild is a very good community ), and then try to avoid those other types of players as much as I could.
There is also the fact that this game might be released with a mature rating, since it is being derived from Warhammer. That would eliminate much of the young population, but thats what Mythic has to decide.
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mm true. i think that the potential for the less mature crowd to come over is high, however warhammer has been around for 25 or so years, so there will be a hardcore group of gamers who have been with the game for 25 years..
and given the fact that its warhammer and frankly quite graphic, i would hope that it gets the M rating to prevent 14 yearold night elf rogues from playing.
Your going to get tons of DAoC guys thats for sure. As this game has DAoC 2 stamped all over it
But the WoW guys will be even worse as said before. The screens for this game even look like WoW so im sure all the peeps who like those kind of graphics will feel right at home.
I wish they had tryed to go with the p&p game as it would have rocked. And if there was ever a game that should have been made with a M rating it was this one. There is a HUGE market out there for the 1st guys to make a M rated game. Just have to have someone with the gutts to do it.
PC Gamer had a good write up on it. Lots of screens and such. With some back story to it as well. But even they called it the "Unofficial DAoC 2" So id look for all the peeps who like large RvR fighting and such.
Yeah, but at least Warhammer has a skirmish based game already in Mordheim, and a RPG to boot. so the Conversion is more realistic than to convert Warcraft to RPG....
This game could be pretty cool.
So just because i've spent a lot of time on WoW, you assume that i'm a social retard with looks which are so bad, Stephen Hawkings would laugh? Well i'm not bud, i'm 19 years old and have an appartment with my gf and I have a very healthy sex life thanks.
More on topic... do you honestly think the M rating will get rid of the kiddies? Look at grand theft auto series, eventhough adults play it and love it but it's mostly the kids who talk about just how cool it is. Maybe it's different in America but in England, game age restrictions mean nothing as parents will always buy the games regardless.
No I dont think a M rating would get rid of any one type of peep, the kids or the old timers like me.
Im just saying that a M rating would let you do more things, and the more you can do the better the game you can make. If you do it in a good way. I think there will always be the kids/the Hard Core players/the PKs/ etc. in every game. All types. just have to learn to work around them for the most part.
And its true parents dont look after there kids anymore so why not go on and make a M rated game and get all the more freedom to do what you want. As I dont see anyone "not" buying a game just because it has M rating. I mean we all go see movies with a R rating.
But im like old, or so most of my online friends tell me. Heh 40 is old now. So perhaps a M rating dont mean to me what it dos to some others. But as for the types of players this game will have ill still play it even it its over ran with just about any type of player.
Because Warhammer has always been one of my fav. game worlds. And there is a Ork Warboss seting on me PC who has wanted to return to the fight for far to long.
What a classy response. What's with the E-cool folks trying to tell others to get laid?
Remember your 14 year olds playing WOW right now will be like nearly 16 or something when W.A.R. hits the shelves.
And besides the more the merrier,that way we get this thing released!
There is no way that Mythic will turn this into a PvE grind to get the latest armor set. Their main focus is good PvP, and they are the best company to do it. Most of the PvE'ers who enjoy the 40-man raiding (I really don't know how anyone can enjoy that) will stay in WoW.
there are two things i like about WoW.
1) i can ambush another player while they are trying to exp/farm.
2) there are players to ambush
I don't care who comes to play Warhammer as long as they come in droves. There will be some cool players too, and i will be happy to group up with them.
One thing we all need to realize is that WoW is so popular because Blizzard makes popular PC games. Diablo, Warcraft and Starcraft has a huge fanbase that Blizzard introduced to MMOs. I would guess that 80% of the WoW players have never played another MMO. They will stay happy until they find out there have been better games. Let's just hope that there will be better games to go to
One thing about WoW players that i give props to is that the lowbies in the safe zones will attack a high level enemy even tho they flag themselves and get owned. I think alot of WoW players have a real taste for PvP. Too bad they have never played in a real FFAPvP enviroment.
Which FF Character Are You?
This looks like a killer game, im glad mythic is now developing it.
As for world of warcraft players, and the new wave of MMO'ers, forget them. I wont let them ruin my style, they are newbies, nothing more. Even the leetest of leet in World of Warcraft is still average newbie in any other MMO on the market.
With that being said, I have no fear of WoW players flooding to this game, cause they all will quite within the first month of not being top level, and openly ganking everyone.
But yeah DoAc will be this games biggest exodus.
so...
Well, the game will be aiming for a teen rating so it could well take a big chunk of the bored of WoW crowd, the community will be better though as it will have a decent RvR implementation
Depends what part you look at I suppose.
If you look at the Warhammer miniatures (At least how the "official" ones are painted), Warcraft has obviously taken inspiration from it.
If you compare the Warhammer artwork with Warcraft artwork though, they are miles apart. It's really the dark and foreboding artwork that appeals to me, rather than the Bright colours of GWs studio models.
As I understand WAR, there will be 40-man raids, but the raids will include siege engines hurling destruction at fortified positions.
[quote]Originally posted by dokah
As I understand WAR, there will be 40-man raids, but the raids will include siege engines hurling destruction at fortified positions.
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Haha, well said.
I think the fanbase will be fine. A lot of ex-DAOC players and a good amount of Warhammer players are what we are mostly going to see, I thought at first. Mythic has stated that now that they've had one successful product, they've got a lot of money to spend on advertising. I think that this will bring in a lot of new players as well. Still, the fanbase will be fine.
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heya
well, i'm in no way afraid of "WoW kiddies" flooding WAR, the more of 'em the better. Just for the simple reason that they are mostly farmable targets, i'm really looking forward to that.
Back when DAoC initially started, players started bashing others being CS kiddies, too. Same story, differrent game.
No offense, but u state to be 19 now, Senden... You are not really far away of being put in the same box with "kids" playing onlinegames. Just seeing it from a statistic point of view, of course. Comparing that with the time DAoC hit the shelves, for example, ppl nowadays being 19 just were like 14/15 back in that time. I hope u get what i mean
This goes on and on with every game to come out in the future.
I assume we'll see thousands of ex-DAoC players coming "home" to a new mythic game -> great thing, like-minded players in a new environment. Plus thousands of WoW-leavers, just for the simple fact that pvp in WoW more than sucks. Add the other disappointed gamers, or should i say pvpers, that have been looking for just a game like WAR. The bigger the fanbase, the better the game, the more fun pvp/rvr will be. It's just boring fighting the same three guilds everyday. And i personally think Mythic really knows what to do now. It will not have as much of a fanbase like WoW, or subscribers... But that's just healthy i think, a manageable community > 5-6 million subscribers.
And btw...
WAR=DAoC 2? Yes, please. As an oldschool DAoC player i can't imagine anything better to come. To be honest, every other game i've tried just sucked vs DAoC's pvp/rvr concept. If they just leave the most annoying part, PvE, more or less out... mythic got my babies.
Hey man read my post just above yours! I beleive that a proper stat system would resolve this problem all together!
And ya, this game should be based upon PVP and people would not be complaining if this kind of stat system is implamented!
Basically you tweak your character with the stats you beleive are most important and go from there!
I really wish WOW had this sort of system, Blizzard does have experience with system from Diablo 2, which worked really well!
Just my 2 cents
OOPS wrong quote i meant to be quoting this guys post lol
Hey man read my post just above yours! I beleive that a proper stat system would resolve this problem all together!
And ya, this game should be based upon PVP and people would not be complaining if this kind of stat system is implamented!
Basically you tweak your character with the stats you beleive are most important and go from there!
I really wish WOW had this sort of system, Blizzard does have experience with system from Diablo 2, which worked really well!
Just my 2 cents
I predict WAR will be a success simply because of the niche it will be filling in the MMORPG industry. It obviously won't have WoW's numbers - if you're name isn't Blizzard, its impossible to get those numbers - but it will still be pretty solid. Probably around 750,000 to 1 million subscribers.
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I hate to say this but 16 is not what I would consider "mature".
I'm 34 and really look forward to a game designed for people who want a mature environment.
I think the DAoC style is great. RvR is a great system and it helps prevent cheating.
If you think anyone can "force" Mythic to adapt their designs, I think you are wrong.
Mythic are veterans MMO makers, they will make choices and they will adapt the game with some goals...the online complains will hardly impact Mythic.
Don't read me wrong, they will do an awesome job for what they will do, I just hope they will be as inclusive as possible while making the best game possible.
So far, the only MMO maker that adapt it games to online complains are SoE and it doesn't seem to be serving them well at all. Since the more you listen, the more peoples talk there...and peoples who are ready to spend time to write and talk don't represent the majority of players, never will.
See, despite the fact that I play more than 80 hours a week, I barely find the time to come here, on a neutral ground...on the official sites? Gah, it is an event when I show up there! Folks who talk online really don't represent the majority. Otherwise you would have a permanent death, FFA PvP, hellish raids and so on...and we all know those are not popular choices.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I think you need to realise that wow is an easy game to play, its almost too easy. A lot of your "pvpers" in wow would be slaughtered in any skill based MMO.
I personally am a warhammer fan and want to play it for the immersion and for the storyline. PvP will not be WoW based, and it is not the same game at all.
I don't think you have much to worry about.