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How important are non-human races to you?

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    We need something to kill that isn't "us" so we can feel OK about it... basic armed forces training 101.
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  • cultura82cultura82 Member UncommonPosts: 27
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  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,526
    It really depends on the game, for me if it is a high fantasy, or a science fiction it is a must to have them.  But I don't expect them in a game based off of everyday human life.
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    There are certain mental issues with games. One of them is that humans can feel uncomfortable killing other humans. Making them aliens makes it easier. But it's more than that. There's also a reason why games don'e look too realistic. Scientists have found that humans have difficulty when things seem too real so games are made to look cartoonish in nature just in different styles. Same with the way things sound... in LOTRO during beta, they had these lynx's outside the main elven area that you had to kill. Killing one of them made you feel like you were killing your own kitty cat. It was extremely disturbing and there was a massive post on the forums begging for it to be changed. 
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  • RealedazedRealedazed Member UncommonPosts: 105
    edited August 2016
    I love to play non-human races.  I mean, I play a human every day and its fun to completely detach from reality.  I love it when the character models are much more than just a different colored human or a just a non-human head  stuck on a human body. 

    I tried very hard to like ArcheAge because  I really liked the Firrans (Spelling?). I liked that they ran on all fours, licked themselves and their armor has special versions because of their feet and tails. Also Isteria (Horizon) was another game that I enjoyed, especially since you could actually play as Dragons. 
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  • dreamer05dreamer05 Member UncommonPosts: 679
    I'm not a huge fan of animal-human races, but a variety in races is very important. Trolls, orgres, variations of elves, etc.

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  • ThebeastttThebeasttt Member RarePosts: 1,130
    I don't need to be a special delicate flower but if the game has only one race it is far too difficult to have any uniqueness whatsoever. The worst part are these 1 races games typically having very few armor choices as well, making it feel very bland real quick. Many Asian MMO's like to die on the 1 race sword but it's not working out too well for them.
  • acidbloodacidblood Member RarePosts: 878
    If it makes sense within the lore, then the more variety the better, but humans, or more broadly humanoid races, are perfectly fine as the 'only option'.
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    Depends a lot on the races in question. Some are annoying as fuck, and I'd rather not have them around at all, but I'm fine with the majority of them. So I went with that vote. I just won't play them in all likelihood.

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  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,503
    Iselin said:
    We need something to kill that isn't "us" so we can feel OK about it... basic armed forces training 101.
    No...it isn't not at all. I mean your logic is sound as far as your opinion is concerned, but it has nothing to do with the armed forces, their 'basic training' or anything else. Not at all.

    I enjoy seeing non-human races although I seldom play them myself. I like to see the diversity as it helps to take me away from the real world and bring me to why I play games and that is for a break.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Hatefull said:
    Iselin said:
    We need something to kill that isn't "us" so we can feel OK about it... basic armed forces training 101.
    No...it isn't not at all. I mean your logic is sound as far as your opinion is concerned, but it has nothing to do with the armed forces, their 'basic training' or anything else. Not at all.


    Yeah tell that to someone who went through basic training in the Vietnam War era. I won't even repeat the G word that was used to refer to the enemy.

    It's S.O.P. to dehumanize them in the indoctrination process.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900
    I am a human, why would I want to play one. I want my mind taken to places that are not real. To be something greater than I am. 
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Nanfoodle said:
    I am a human, why would I want to play one. I want my mind taken to places that are not real. To be something greater than I am. 
    Like a goblin? :)
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  • ArchlyteArchlyte Member RarePosts: 1,405
    I don't care for them in most games because they are either used to bolster egos (Big Races), hide in PvP (very small races) or just to have some human characteristic blown up to cartoon proportions. If they have racial stats, the classes that need those stats end up being the domain of that race to the exclusion of other races because the mechanics of game world reality are completely known and predictable in MMORPGS.
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  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,903
    Iselin said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    I am a human, why would I want to play one. I want my mind taken to places that are not real. To be something greater than I am. 
    Like a goblin? :)
    Who doesn't want to be a part of the crawling chaos, to join the hordes of anarchy, to achieve the works of the hungry, and play with fire in other people's houses.

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  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    Why play as a human? Seriously, you have the chance to (virtually) be something else..

    As for me, I'll take my chance as a deformed elf or a junkie orc. :sunglasses:




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  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,503
    edited August 2016
    Iselin said:
    Hatefull said:
    Iselin said:
    We need something to kill that isn't "us" so we can feel OK about it... basic armed forces training 101.
    No...it isn't not at all. I mean your logic is sound as far as your opinion is concerned, but it has nothing to do with the armed forces, their 'basic training' or anything else. Not at all.


    Yeah tell that to someone who went through basic training in the Vietnam War era. I won't even repeat the G word that was used to refer to the enemy.

    It's S.O.P. to dehumanize them in the indoctrination process.
    I went through both Army and Marine Boot camp, I have served with many foreign services including the Legion and went through their jungle warfare and commando school, fought in two wars and done peace keeping and other missions all over the globe spanning a 23 year career.

    I have spoken with, served with men and women from your era and you are correct of ryour time period. Yes, you are absolutely taught aggression, how to fight kill win and I assume there was plenty of racial slurs being thrown around. Since America went to an all volunteer professional force we (they now, I am retired) do not teach racism or xenophobia. So your reality is vastly different than what people serving today have been taught. Ergo our disagreement. 

    Going back to your statement I guess that is what you learned and I am sorry for it. That is a terrible way to train people to fight and a good argument against doing it that way the best proof being, we lost that war. Albeit most would agree we lost in the congress and the senate with over restrictive rules of engagement, the U.S. military was just coming out of an extremely low period in it's history and training (as I mentioned previously) was severely lacking.

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree, thank you for your service.

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  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969
    I only play humans. I play to immerse "myself" into the game, therefore I only play male humans.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,060
    Honestly, non-human races are a mixed bag. For every World of Warcraft, EverQuest, or Guild Wars, there are twenty lazy Korean MMOs that limit themselves to "human, big human, beast man, all-female human, and lolicon."
  • YoofaloofYoofaloof Member UncommonPosts: 217
    I don't mind seeing and other players playing them, but they aren't for me. I pick human every time.
  • dave6660dave6660 Member UncommonPosts: 2,699
    Given the choice the I never play a human character.  Although, I wouldn't pass up a game just because I was forced to play as a human.

    I've been playing Nyx Assassin a lot in DOTA 2 recently.  Arachnid heroes are pretty cool.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,900
    Iselin said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    I am a human, why would I want to play one. I want my mind taken to places that are not real. To be something greater than I am. 
    Like a goblin? :)
    Yup, I have played a Goblin. 
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