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MMO's - Most anticipated - 2007 vs 2016
IceAge
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All I see in 2016 are crowdfunded projects ( exception is Dark & Light ) ! This is sad ..
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
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Considering that, it's promising for upcoming big MMOs if they aren't listed.
First, let's see how many from the Most Anticipated MMO's from 2016 at least make it to the launch day and then how much they will ...survive !
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
And only poor but ambitious indie devs get some love from some of us ! I wish Dual Universe to be on list .
Yea good point in latest years we didn't have Real game devs we had retarded cookie cutters that failed miserable in the struggle to take sweet piece from WOW
Founded CoE and Dual Universe cross fingers for the guys to succeed
Making a comparation from 2004 to 2009 , we had some good, very good MMO's and that is in only 5 years! What we had/have from 2010 to 2016 ? Nothing really ..
Exactly !
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
SOE doesn't exist anymore and Everquest Next was cancelled.
Blizzard cancelled Titan (happened probably more than 3 years ago too considering that team made Overwatch).
CCP cancelled World of Darkness.
Wildstar and Carbine are on artificial life support.
CIG and Star Citizen are purely crowdfunded which is usually not considered "big studio" material.
Ivory Tower made a single game (The Crew) and I'm not sure I would label that a MMO.
Everything else but Trion are Asian studios.
Yeah, I am sure that's going to turn out well. :pleased:
Carbine's Wildstar is the last MMO released from a big studio !
Archeage?! We had games released as Archeage back in the days like a dozen each year and now we count it as a "big name"?!
Titan , Next , WoD = Canceled
Trove
Devilian ............................
Revelation Online first time I heard about this game was few weeks ago ! Don't know about it so that means a lot .
Skyforge , are you serious?
The Crew, is this a MMO ?!
Oh the almighty Star Citizen! I remember back in the days, we had something like this ( in terms of ...years ) and it's called ....Darkfall .
So, beside Wildstar and Black Desert , what we had/have ? And that is in the last 3 years! 3 ! Everything else , we had plenty of them back in the days, beside the big names!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
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-AOC was in an alpha state when it launched.
-Vanguard in the same boat as AOC.
-Stargate never even released, did it?
-Gods and Heroes was cancelled in beta(or just after launch), revived, and cancelled again, if I remember correctly...
-WAR was, in fact, way worse than any new indie game will be. That game hyped more and delivered less than most other games.
-Spellborn makes me a bit sad. I had high hopes for it, but I would call this an under-funded Indie game. Very obscure title with some neat ideas and a pretty cool art style.
-LOTRO is probably the only game that truly could be considered a success, out of the lot.
To be honest, I would say that Stargate, G&H, Spellborn, and Vanguard were not "big name studios" or anything, though. Vanguard had some celebrity, but even it was a new studio.
LOTRO, AOC, and WAR had well-established studios with prior MMO experience, though. So, they are legitimate points.
But, yeah, as to the OP point, the big money from investors isn't behind anyone anymore. Probably because of games like the ones on that old list, heh. They were such abysmal failures that the investors started viewing "MMO" as a giant warning label.
But, as I mentioned in my last post, half of those on the list weren't AAA studios with investors either, so that doesn't really nullify your point
Don't forget the consumer who also expects the game to be everything they alone desire, other be damned.
I self identify as a monkey.
Or is the In Development MMO's ommiting those for MMO's with some sort of early access?
All I am saying is that back in the days, big studios invested in MMO's and we did support them with hundred of thousands of pre-orders before releasing ( Aoc, War .. ) ! They failed , but not because of the players, but because of dev's ! They tried and now, they started to turn their back on us, even if we are still *here* and looking for a GOOD MMo.
Now don't tell me that crowdfunded projects will do better then them with ... a very tiny budget compared to those I said earlier.
I .. blame the phones! Not the phones in particularly ! The dev's started to turn their face on a new market and milking the shit out of it with poor games. They are doing with the games on mobile what they did with MMO's ! There are A LOT of games on mobile ! Those so called good games! Maybe they are good, but the P2W is so fucking bad, that makes P2W PC MMO's looks like P2P. They took the route of the world , meaning build fast and milk faster ! There are more "Castle X games" on mobile , then there are active MMO's on the market.
I don't know what the fuck I am talking about, but I am just pissed off with this "market" and how things evolved.
PC's will go nowhere, MMO players are still here , in fact, a lot more then before ! Plus .. those, which are not familiar with them BUT , if a MMO is released and is good ( just like WoW ) , they will be interested in trying and playing it , because word of mouth is way better those days.
I .. don't want to say it, but I am afraid MMO's will become a very niche market! Signs are there. The most important is that big studios has stopped creating MMO's. When that happened, Indie studios showed up, trying to come in because they see some opportunities. And it will stay that way in the end. There will be some exceptions like NcSoft now with their Lineage Eternal and some Asian studios , but that will be it.
Sad, because I saw a lot of opportunities for MMO's when I was younger.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
You see, today's list is so full of crowd-funded projects because investors are much harder to find for MMO's but the developers have found a new source of funding, gullible players who are more than happy to foot the bill while being told about features that wont even make it into the game assuming the game even launches.
The game industry is very different from other industries, they have figured out that they can flat out lie about features and get away with it. They can change the terms of service to say they dont even have to make a game and still get to keep your money. Players dont take legal action when a game fails to live up to the marketed features so players are the ultimate source of revenue.
Why have fatcat investors who hold you to your word and launch timeline when you can get the players to foot the bill while allowing you to do anything you want?