What video cable are you using? Have you tried a different cable and/or port? Does it do it with any monitor by itself, or only when all monitors are connected?
Is the system doing something silly like switching video modes for fullscreen or something?
BIOS updates?
I just replaced my 760 gtx with a 1070. Upgraded my ram another 16gig, and put another 250g ssd in.
It only happens once an hour maybe, so I have not tried unhooking one monitor, changing cords, etc.
I don't believe the system is attempting to change over to fullscreen unless I am hitting buttons that I don't know what they do (slight possibility).
I have been regularly checking for BIOS updates as well. Everything is up to date.
Well it gives you a few things to try at least. May not hurt to throw the 760 back in there for a bit and see if it occurs with that as well.
One other thing, I know they are both nVidia cards, but sometimes Windows horks when you change out GPUs, and while nVidia does have a unified driver, you are dealing with two different architectures. May not hurt to do a reinstall or at least clean out all the GPU drivers (DriverSweeper or something similar) and do a fresh install.
The 760 was having a lot of issues with kernel failures, black screen, freezing, etc. That was why I had upgraded to the 1070.
I did a clean install of the drivers (removed all old ones), and the black screen for a few seconds is still happening from time to time. I actually watched the monitor power lights this time, and they stay on for the duration of the blackout.
Edit: I have had MSI Afterburner up and running to see if I could notice anything odd going on. When the monitors go black the GPU fan, power, and usage all drop down to 0, then immediately come up after the monitors come back.
Is this something that is wrong with my new GPU, or could it be the power supply taking a dump?
Edit edit: I have roughly 10 days left to be able to use the return for replacement policy through Newegg on my GPU.
Given that 2 different GPUs behave badly on this system, I'd be inclined to say replace the motherboard. It could also be something else - PSU or RAM maybe, but less likely than motherboard.
If you've got another system (friend, neighbor, wife) that you can test the 1070 in before the RMA window hits, that would rule that out. Or you could just order a new motherboard and get it shipped and on site before your RMA on your GPU runs out, try it out, if it works, great, if not, return the motherboard and RMA the GPU.
The not-so-easy-but-free thing to check before you do all of that is a clean installation of Windows - could be something is still horked and just doing a clean install of the GPU drivers didn't catch it.
For MMO play, Get a 3 GHZ machine, 32 MB of ram and a R9 290 or 290X. Should be able to pull this off for under 1500. I personally use an i7 processor with an LGA2011 slot. If you start looking at things like SLI and 4 GHZ processors that's more for shooters... They need the extreme framerates. MMO games don't require nearly the horsepower to run at 100% unless you're playing something poorly optimized in which case there's not enough electronics in the world to get it to 100.
Don't get wrapped up in things like Solid state, audio cards, 10 gigabit ethernet, gaming mice/keyboards. Spend your money in what's in the box and read lots of reviews. A Bronze rated power supply has never failed me, but has saved me a lot on my machine prices.
Also, please ask yourself, are you dropping 1500 on a rig to play games you aren't willing to spend any money on? That seems to be a theme around here. People spend mountains of research trying to find games that are truly free to play and end up playing 3rd world video games on amazing rigs. lol
What video cable are you using? Have you tried a different cable and/or port? Does it do it with any monitor by itself, or only when all monitors are connected?
Is the system doing something silly like switching video modes for fullscreen or something?
BIOS updates?
I just replaced my 760 gtx with a 1070. Upgraded my ram another 16gig, and put another 250g ssd in.
It only happens once an hour maybe, so I have not tried unhooking one monitor, changing cords, etc.
I don't believe the system is attempting to change over to fullscreen unless I am hitting buttons that I don't know what they do (slight possibility).
I have been regularly checking for BIOS updates as well. Everything is up to date.
Well it gives you a few things to try at least. May not hurt to throw the 760 back in there for a bit and see if it occurs with that as well.
One other thing, I know they are both nVidia cards, but sometimes Windows horks when you change out GPUs, and while nVidia does have a unified driver, you are dealing with two different architectures. May not hurt to do a reinstall or at least clean out all the GPU drivers (DriverSweeper or something similar) and do a fresh install.
The 760 was having a lot of issues with kernel failures, black screen, freezing, etc. That was why I had upgraded to the 1070.
I did a clean install of the drivers (removed all old ones), and the black screen for a few seconds is still happening from time to time. I actually watched the monitor power lights this time, and they stay on for the duration of the blackout.
Edit: I have had MSI Afterburner up and running to see if I could notice anything odd going on. When the monitors go black the GPU fan, power, and usage all drop down to 0, then immediately come up after the monitors come back.
Is this something that is wrong with my new GPU, or could it be the power supply taking a dump?
Edit edit: I have roughly 10 days left to be able to use the return for replacement policy through Newegg on my GPU.
I would suggest the following troubleshooting steps: - Remove the graphics card and clean the PCI-E slot (blow the dust out using compressed air) on your motherboard if necessary then replug the card making sure the connection is tight. - Modular PSUs usually come with an extra PCI-E power slot and a spare PCI-E power cable. Use that if you have a second one. Make sure the PCI-E power is connected tight on both ends. - Check your display cord if you have a spare one.
If your display cord is not defective then the whole issue sounds like you most likely have problems with your PSU's 12V PCI-E. If not then my second guess would be the motherboard considering you had problems with your previous graphics card too.
You can also try to reset your BIOS to its defaults and see if that helps. Sometimes BIOS updates cause weird issues when you don't start off with reseting your new BIOS since previous BIOS settings might conflict with your new version. (Don't forget to check the SATA controller's mode after that. Sometimes the defaults are set to RAID mode which prevents Windows from loading if you originally used your SATA controller in IDE mode during installation.)
in my professional opinion, it is not a good time to be building, if you can hold off until 1st quarter 2017 you will ave a lot more options
In my opinion, it's never a good time to be building. If you can wait for 6 more months, there will always be more alternatives available.
Waiting might be a good idea when you know that something is only a couple of months away, but if you start waiting for things that are half a year away there will always be something better to wait for.
AMD GPUS coming, AMD Zen is coming. Both of these things will bring prices down on all venders. If it was like, o the 450rx is release , or the 1050 is releasing I wouldn't bother waiting, but this is new generation of technology coming, actual change from mother boards that are now going to be AM4 . Intel will have to compete , and mbos will be pushed lowerd, DDR4 will be prominent , pushing ddr3 down.... ect. Everything from cooling to psu's will be hitting lower prices, what is 1500 now could be 900 in a few months.
Not saying buy AMD, I'm saying their next line of GPUs and CPUS for the next few years is about to drop. Which inturn will drop prices across all venders.
It may be a bit premature to be saying all of this. Really, remember when Fury was about to come out, and it was the first HBM card and it was going to shake nVidia up? Yeah, that didn't so much happen.
Or how everything was going to be different when Mantle hits. Yup, not so much there.
And remember when Bulldozer was going to cream Core and usher in a world of 8+ core CPUs for consumers? Yeah, that didn't so much happen either.
APUs will change PCs forever. Nope.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen. AMD has pulled off some impressive technology, and I don't think they have to be "The Fastest" in order to present a sensible or compelling product.
I am saying, don't buy into all this hype before the product is released though. I really do want to see something groundbreaking from AMD, but you have to admit that AMD has a long history of over-promising and under-delivering.
Generational changes have historically brought prevoius generations price down. Atleast in the U.S. AMD is moving to a new generation, FX , X series ,AM3+ and ddr3 are old gen.
I won't disagree with you about AM3+ and DDR3 being previous generations.
But generational changes don't neccesarily reduce prices automatically.
DDR2 RAM prices have actually been going up. Because it isn't manufactured in quantity any longer. DDR3 will follow the same suit, soon.
And Bulldozer/Excavator/A-Series hasn't exactly forced Intel to lower their prices. Nor has the RX480/470/460 forced nVidia to lower prices on their 1060/1070/1080's.
Prices only reduce when there is the threat of competition, or demand dwindles. In recent memory (at least since the Athlon XP days or so), AMD has only really challenged the value sector.
I say start with PCGAMER Build guide: the best high-end gaming PC, next I recommend Nvidia's Gears of War 4 Graphics & Performance Guide. Those who advised PC Parts Picker are right, that is a good place to see what the best reviewed and latest hardware is. The software does make a basic check for compatibility of components. My personal recommendation is as follows.
Intel CPU 6 gen skylake cpu no less than an i5 preferably a i7. Four cores at a minimum, but 4 cores + 4 hyper threads is best (i7). But what about AMD? One game was optimised for multi-threaded architecture, by a GPU manufacturer. Any 8 threaded CPU will show a performance increase. By accident (I repeat by accident), AMD showed the largest performance boost. But not against Intel. The pre Optimization performance of Intel was already greater than AMD. The boost only brought AMD closer to Intel performance. Include AMD's required excess power consumption and heat dissipation requirements and they are non-contenders. If you are an AMD fan, this is all irrelevant to you and won't change your mind.
A Nvidia 980 gpu is DirectX 12 and VR ready, so is a 1080 & a 780. But good luck finding a new 780. Many will tell you that 2Gb and video ram is low end. many believe that 4GB is the new entry level, and you should be looking for a card with 6GB or more.
As for system Ram, even I would say that 8GB (2x4GB) is a low entry point. In my last build I started with 16GB (2x8GB), my new minimum entry point, with a 4 slot ram bay. So I can add an additional 16GB (2x8GB). If you must get a 2 slot ram bay motherboard, then please save up for 32GB(2x16GB). Living with 16GB (2x8GB) is certainly doable and has longevity.
Invest in a CPU water color, and if you can a single loop system with a GPU color as well. A single loop is a water color with a connector for both a CPU and a GPU. The single loop implies a single fluid path.
Please notice I don't mention motherboards (H170, better a Z170), cases, power supplies (600W+), components and any other brand names. If anyone has a preference for another brand of CPU or GPU, then fine. Their criteria made that choice. I have made systems for myself and other with those brands, In the last two months I specced out a system for some with with AMD.
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Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
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The 760 was having a lot of issues with kernel failures, black screen, freezing, etc. That was why I had upgraded to the 1070.
I did a clean install of the drivers (removed all old ones), and the black screen for a few seconds is still happening from time to time. I actually watched the monitor power lights this time, and they stay on for the duration of the blackout.
Edit: I have had MSI Afterburner up and running to see if I could notice anything odd going on. When the monitors go black the GPU fan, power, and usage all drop down to 0, then immediately come up after the monitors come back.
Is this something that is wrong with my new GPU, or could it be the power supply taking a dump?
Edit edit: I have roughly 10 days left to be able to use the return for replacement policy through Newegg on my GPU.
If you've got another system (friend, neighbor, wife) that you can test the 1070 in before the RMA window hits, that would rule that out. Or you could just order a new motherboard and get it shipped and on site before your RMA on your GPU runs out, try it out, if it works, great, if not, return the motherboard and RMA the GPU.
The not-so-easy-but-free thing to check before you do all of that is a clean installation of Windows - could be something is still horked and just doing a clean install of the GPU drivers didn't catch it.
http://www.geeks3d.com/20160826/furmark-1-18-0-gpu-burner-opengl-benchmark/
Don't get wrapped up in things like Solid state, audio cards, 10 gigabit ethernet, gaming mice/keyboards. Spend your money in what's in the box and read lots of reviews. A Bronze rated power supply has never failed me, but has saved me a lot on my machine prices.
Also, please ask yourself, are you dropping 1500 on a rig to play games you aren't willing to spend any money on? That seems to be a theme around here. People spend mountains of research trying to find games that are truly free to play and end up playing 3rd world video games on amazing rigs. lol
- Remove the graphics card and clean the PCI-E slot (blow the dust out using compressed air) on your motherboard if necessary then replug the card making sure the connection is tight.
- Modular PSUs usually come with an extra PCI-E power slot and a spare PCI-E power cable. Use that if you have a second one. Make sure the PCI-E power is connected tight on both ends.
- Check your display cord if you have a spare one.
If your display cord is not defective then the whole issue sounds like you most likely have problems with your PSU's 12V PCI-E. If not then my second guess would be the motherboard considering you had problems with your previous graphics card too.
You can also try to reset your BIOS to its defaults and see if that helps. Sometimes BIOS updates cause weird issues when you don't start off with reseting your new BIOS since previous BIOS settings might conflict with your new version. (Don't forget to check the SATA controller's mode after that. Sometimes the defaults are set to RAID mode which prevents Windows from loading if you originally used your SATA controller in IDE mode during installation.)
I changed the slot the card was in, cleaned the case out complete, changed out the power cable, did a fresh install, etc, etc, etc.
I just ran the benchmark on MSI Kombustor, and also did the stress test with no issues at all.
Hopefully this solves my issue.
If it starts occurring again I guess I will replace my mobo.
Thank you everyone for your assistance. It was much appreciated.
But generational changes don't neccesarily reduce prices automatically.
DDR2 RAM prices have actually been going up. Because it isn't manufactured in quantity any longer. DDR3 will follow the same suit, soon.
And Bulldozer/Excavator/A-Series hasn't exactly forced Intel to lower their prices. Nor has the RX480/470/460 forced nVidia to lower prices on their 1060/1070/1080's.
Prices only reduce when there is the threat of competition, or demand dwindles. In recent memory (at least since the Athlon XP days or so), AMD has only really challenged the value sector.
Intel CPU 6 gen skylake cpu no less than an i5 preferably a i7. Four cores at a minimum, but 4 cores + 4 hyper threads is best (i7). But what about AMD? One game was optimised for multi-threaded architecture, by a GPU manufacturer. Any 8 threaded CPU will show a performance increase. By accident (I repeat by accident), AMD showed the largest performance boost. But not against Intel. The pre Optimization performance of Intel was already greater than AMD. The boost only brought AMD closer to Intel performance. Include AMD's required excess power consumption and heat dissipation requirements and they are non-contenders. If you are an AMD fan, this is all irrelevant to you and won't change your mind.
A Nvidia 980 gpu is DirectX 12 and VR ready, so is a 1080 & a 780. But good luck finding a new 780. Many will tell you that 2Gb and video ram is low end. many believe that 4GB is the new entry level, and you should be looking for a card with 6GB or more.
As for system Ram, even I would say that 8GB (2x4GB) is a low entry point. In my last build I started with 16GB (2x8GB), my new minimum entry point, with a 4 slot ram bay. So I can add an additional 16GB (2x8GB). If you must get a 2 slot ram bay motherboard, then please save up for 32GB(2x16GB). Living with 16GB (2x8GB) is certainly doable and has longevity.
Invest in a CPU water color, and if you can a single loop system with a GPU color as well. A single loop is a water color with a connector for both a CPU and a GPU. The single loop implies a single fluid path.
Please notice I don't mention motherboards (H170, better a Z170), cases, power supplies (600W+), components and any other brand names. If anyone has a preference for another brand of CPU or GPU, then fine. Their criteria made that choice. I have made systems for myself and other with those brands, In the last two months I specced out a system for some with with AMD.
Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.