If you upgrade, please post back to let us know how it goes. With what you're attempting to accomplish, I don't think the I7 will even give you what you're looking for. I've been the victim many times of an upgrade that falls short of expectations. With a person that must play this many games at once, I think you're out of luck for the time being, I would wait if I were you. Just my opinion though. I think you'll be disappointed with the outcome.
Wait.... You are going to replace the mobo and processor in a laptop?
No, lol, I have a laptop to hold me over till I decide which processor to get. Oziius said:
If you upgrade, please post back to let us know how it goes. With what you're attempting to accomplish, I don't think the I7 will even give you what you're looking for. I've been the victim many times of an upgrade that falls short of expectations. With a person that must play this many games at once, I think you're out of luck for the time being, I would wait if I were you. Just my opinion though. I think you'll be disappointed with the outcome.
I hope not , Ill let you know though. Maybe I should just build 2 computers lol. These i7 are pretty expensive.
If it runs just fine for more than an hour, then you'll start getting problems, that doesn't sound like CPU problem. Normally CPU usage is about the same whether you're 5 minutes into the session or 5 hours.
Getting I7 CPU would be a good idea when you're running 3 games at once, but I wouldn't trust that your problem can be solved that way.
How much RAM does your system have?
To me it sounds like a kind of CPU problem: Overheating. The CPU in itself shouldn't be a problem but when it heats up it start to mess things up. I basically agree since I don't think the CPU in itself needs replacing. ?It could of course be the GFX card that overheat as well but I think the CPU is likelier in this case.
Does the CPU fan sound more when you played a while?
If it does I would consider a better cooling system for it. Maybe one of the Corsair hydro systems? Relatively cheap and easy to install liquid cooling.
If it runs just fine for more than an hour, then you'll start getting problems, that doesn't sound like CPU problem. Normally CPU usage is about the same whether you're 5 minutes into the session or 5 hours.
Getting I7 CPU would be a good idea when you're running 3 games at once, but I wouldn't trust that your problem can be solved that way.
How much RAM does your system have?
To me it sounds like a kind of CPU problem: Overheating. The CPU in itself shouldn't be a problem but when it heats up it start to mess things up. I basically agree since I don't think the CPU in itself needs replacing. ?It could of course be the GFX card that overheat as well but I think the CPU is likelier in this case.
Does the CPU fan sound more when you played a while?
If it does I would consider a better cooling system for it. Maybe one of the Corsair hydro systems? Relatively cheap and easy to install liquid cooling.
The cpu is not over heating. I had it to 1.48 volts and it still didn't over heat. The max temp it got was 75c. Before you say I did the over clock wrong, I tried on stock. I have a big air cooler, which does about the same as a water cooler, as long as its not hot in the house. I gave up on water coolers, when I ran a custom loop, with no radiator and running fresh spring water that is around 37-40F constantly, which ran my i5 3570k, at like 40c even at 4.6 ghz, and my 290x at 50c. My friend made me feel bad though, making fun of me wasting 800 gallons of water a day to play skyrim ahhaha. Then I bought a motor home water pump, and put a big radiator in my basement that always stays around 40F, and pumped that up to my 2nd story where my computer was, and had fun with that for about a year. That ran it not as cool as the fresh water, but it never went over 50 and 70 for the gpu. Then the pump burned out, and i just went with a huge air cooler, which by sticking a decent sized ac fan behind the computer keeps the 6600k I upgraded to, as i said around 75, which is not what it stays out, it bounces back to 60c and jumps to 75 off and on. On the stock setting it never went over 50c.
It is just not powerful enough to run 2 eves, and stellaris, need more cores, or another computer. It is def not the gpu either, because if I run the 2 eve onlines and play heroes of the storm, for hours they all work fine. Heroes of the storm is way more graphically demanding than stellaris is. It is just that stellaris needs 80 percent of the cpu to run, and it cant be the gpu, because I dont even think stellaris needs a gpu to run, the graphics aren't that demanding.
I shall see, the 6800k on amazon is out of stock intill later this month. I am 90 percent sure it will get rid of the skipping. Which is just unacceptable for me, when I play stellairs, and the 2 eves, I can't even open up a you tube video with out it skipping. The only thing that is maxed at that time, is the cpu with it hitting 100 percent.
If it doesn't, then with amazon bad ass return policy, I will just send it back, and pick a new hobby haha.
Wouldn't it be easier just to get a 2nd system. Run 2 copies of Eve on one, then play Stellaris on the other.
Yeah I am really starting to contemplate just doing that lol, but I had tunnel vision haha, and sent my i5 back. So I am kinda stuck with the original idea of having more cores. Your right though, for the 300 I have to spend to upgrade from the i5, I could of just bought another i5 and motherboard, I already have a hard drive, and I could of split my 16 gbs of ram. Then just a 30 dollar psu, and I would of had a dedicated stallaris machine. Although I don't have another monitor and they are pretty expensive, so I guess this is cheaper.
The cpu is not over heating. I had it to 1.48 volts and it still didn't over heat. The max temp it got was 75c. Before you say I did the over clock wrong, I tried on stock. I have a big air cooler, which does about the same as a water cooler, as long as its not hot in the house. I gave up on water coolers, when I ran a custom loop, with no radiator and running fresh spring water that is around 37-40F constantly, which ran my i5 3570k, at like 40c even at 4.6 ghz, and my 290x at 50c. My friend made me feel bad though, making fun of me wasting 800 gallons of water a day to play skyrim ahhaha. Then I bought a motor home water pump, and put a big radiator in my basement that always stays around 40F, and pumped that up to my 2nd story where my computer was, and had fun with that for about a year. That ran it not as cool as the fresh water, but it never went over 50 and 70 for the gpu. Then the pump burned out, and i just went with a huge air cooler, which by sticking a decent sized ac fan behind the computer keeps the 6600k I upgraded to, as i said around 75, which is not what it stays out, it bounces back to 60c and jumps to 75 off and on. On the stock setting it never went over 50c.
It is just not powerful enough to run 2 eves, and stellaris, need more cores, or another computer. It is def not the gpu either, because if I run the 2 eve onlines and play heroes of the storm, for hours they all work fine. Heroes of the storm is way more graphically demanding than stellaris is. It is just that stellaris needs 80 percent of the cpu to run, and it cant be the gpu, because I dont even think stellaris needs a gpu to run, the graphics aren't that demanding.
I shall see, the 6800k on amazon is out of stock intill later this month. I am 90 percent sure it will get rid of the skipping. Which is just unacceptable for me, when I play stellairs, and the 2 eves, I can't even open up a you tube video with out it skipping. The only thing that is maxed at that time, is the cpu with it hitting 100 percent.
If it doesn't, then with amazon bad ass return policy, I will just send it back, and pick a new hobby haha.
The Corsair system is a bit easier to manage, it is a closed system with alcohol in, but fine, then it isn't overheating.
Still, if it run it fine for an hour and then start to drop in performance the CPU should be more than enough and the problem is elsewhere.
If you get the problem from the start it surely is the CPU.
I would start to scan your computer for malware and clear anything you don't need that start when you boot (it is easy to get a load of crap that leeches your CPU power). Ad aware is good for finding malware and free, the startup is best manually, or you can use a program like easyclener.
The cpu is not over heating. I had it to 1.48 volts and it still didn't over heat. The max temp it got was 75c. Before you say I did the over clock wrong, I tried on stock. I have a big air cooler, which does about the same as a water cooler, as long as its not hot in the house. I gave up on water coolers, when I ran a custom loop, with no radiator and running fresh spring water that is around 37-40F constantly, which ran my i5 3570k, at like 40c even at 4.6 ghz, and my 290x at 50c. My friend made me feel bad though, making fun of me wasting 800 gallons of water a day to play skyrim ahhaha. Then I bought a motor home water pump, and put a big radiator in my basement that always stays around 40F, and pumped that up to my 2nd story where my computer was, and had fun with that for about a year. That ran it not as cool as the fresh water, but it never went over 50 and 70 for the gpu. Then the pump burned out, and i just went with a huge air cooler, which by sticking a decent sized ac fan behind the computer keeps the 6600k I upgraded to, as i said around 75, which is not what it stays out, it bounces back to 60c and jumps to 75 off and on. On the stock setting it never went over 50c.
It is just not powerful enough to run 2 eves, and stellaris, need more cores, or another computer. It is def not the gpu either, because if I run the 2 eve onlines and play heroes of the storm, for hours they all work fine. Heroes of the storm is way more graphically demanding than stellaris is. It is just that stellaris needs 80 percent of the cpu to run, and it cant be the gpu, because I dont even think stellaris needs a gpu to run, the graphics aren't that demanding.
I shall see, the 6800k on amazon is out of stock intill later this month. I am 90 percent sure it will get rid of the skipping. Which is just unacceptable for me, when I play stellairs, and the 2 eves, I can't even open up a you tube video with out it skipping. The only thing that is maxed at that time, is the cpu with it hitting 100 percent.
If it doesn't, then with amazon bad ass return policy, I will just send it back, and pick a new hobby haha.
The Corsair system is a bit easier to manage, it is a closed system with alcohol in, but fine, then it isn't overheating.
Still, if it run it fine for an hour and then start to drop in performance the CPU should be more than enough and the problem is elsewhere.
If you get the problem from the start it surely is the CPU.
I would start to scan your computer for malware and clear anything you don't need that start when you boot (it is easy to get a load of crap that leeches your CPU power). Ad aware is good for finding malware and free, the startup is best manually, or you can use a program like easyclener.
There is nothing on my computer, but eve online, stellaris, google chrome, and steam. With all the useless windows 10 spyware garbage disabled. Unless your gonna say steam is a virus, because I just reinstalled windows like a weed ago. Nope it is 100 percent the cpu, it is because stellaris uses a crap ton of cpu, esp as time goes on. I am unsure why every one is saying it is not the cpu, it sees pretty obvious to me.
Stellaris by it self uses over 80% of the cpu, Google uses like 5%, eve online uses 20-30% per eve, how does that equal enough cpu. My guess is windows to stop the computer from locking up, throttles one of the things, and it happens to pick one of the eve online clients.
Hmm I wouldn't buy it then if it uses alcohol, alcohol is not as good as water for transferring away heat. I am unsure why they used alcohol for that, its not like any one is gonna run their computer outside in the freezing temps. I suppose the only advantage would be if you broke it, and spilled it all over your computer it wouldn't brake.
But it seems like a waste of time and money to buy that, I doubt it would get much better than a big air cooler. Yeah that thing is a waste of money. http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2665&page=7, it barely gets any better than a big air cooler, but you have to put a big radiator on your computer. Which should be pretty obvious because it uses alcohol, which is 100 percent not as good as water for transferring heat. Which is why i went with a air cooler, vrs wasting money on one of those bad designed water coolers. Not that most people would attempt that due to being scared of braking something, and or looks. But I am all practical, and the only reason to go water cooler, is to go cold on cooling, which that isnt gonna do. 2c difference between that and a noctua doesn't justify a hug ass radiator, and 40 dollars more.
If i was gonna do water cooling again. I could make one that is 100 times better than that for 100 bucks. All you would need is the thing that fits on the CPU, and a cheap 10 dollar pump, and some air compressor hose that costs like 8 bucks for 20 feet. If you ran water from a bucket, into the cpu block, with no radiator it would cool it better than that garbage alcohol cooler. That would be over 40 dollars cheaper, and run it between 10-20c cooler than a air or that water cooler. Then you have the advantage of dumping ice into your bucket, so you can get that extra 200 mhz for benchmark tests haha, which i have tested and that ice drops the temp down to like 15 c if you keep dumping ice in there. But yeah suggesting that thing to some one is not sound advice. It is just a gimmick, and worthless compared to a cheaper big air cooler.
Just want to throw this out. You can disable hyperthreading in your bios under the cpu settings. Hyperthreading is bad sometimes and this could be the case for your specific situation. It will make your computer fully utilize 4 cores instead of pretending it has 8 cores and using them at 1/2 values.
here is the more sound advice for cooling. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0156G8S0G?psc=1, since that would get 10-20c cooler than the h100, depending on what u put in it, and if you put the radiator in say a basement. I dono way any one would buy that garbage h100 gimick, i guess people are just too scared, and think they will get their computer wet or something. But if that is the case the person should stick to a air cooler any ways, so I cant see a h100 being sound advice in any case. Since if you aren't afraid of putting stuff together and of water getting on your computer, the do it your self kit, which shouldn't be called that cause it literally is sticking some hoses on lol, gets double the performance for the same price. If the person is scared of that, the air cooler lasts longer, and gets like 1-2c hotter, which 1 to 2 c means absolutely nothing at all,for 40 dollars cheaper.
I own an i7 6700k slightly overclocked to 4.4ghz. I can run 8 eve clients at once with 64gb of ram and a single gtx1080.
There is something wrong if you can't do 2 of em. Or it's not your processor.
The hell man, running 8 clients at once? At least its not pay to win right?
I feel like when I play an MMO, everyone else around me is just 3 friends with 20 accounts running at once. You justify my fears!
Eve is def pay 2 win, the only bright side is that 8 accounts really doesn't help in pvp, at least as far as the actually fighting goes, it would to rebuild after fighting. It doesn't matter to me any more though, because all games are pay 2 win any more. The multi accounts is the least of the pay 2 win though, as you can trade money for in game money. At least all the stuff has to be made in game, so its not like they are adding in in game money out of no where, some games do that.
I agree with that feeling. They need to make games to discourage multi accounts. BDO did a great job of discouraging having 2 accounts, but their economy is so ass horrid its not worth playing.
Pretty close, if I sent my ram back, that would give me 750 i would be spending on a i7 6800k ram, motherboard. I could buy 2 8 core 8300s for 200 bucks, 2 mother boards for 200 bucks, and 16gbs of ddr 3 100, and a extra psu for 50. I already have 2 hard drives, and a 1060. So for 200 more I could buy another 1060. So for the same price as the 1 6800k, I could have 2 decent computers, that could easily play most games on max. Def play stellaris on one and 2 eves on the other, with mad room to spare, vrs the one i7 6800k that would be maxed out almost on those 2 eves and the stellaris.
And since the 6800k went from 370 to 414, it prolly will go up more. Choice choices.
Pretty close, if I sent my ram back, that would give me 750 i would be spending on a i7 6800k ram, motherboard. I could buy 2 8 core 8300s for 200 bucks, 2 mother boards for 200 bucks, and 16gbs of ddr 3 100, and a extra psu for 50. I already have 2 hard drives, and a 1060. So for 200 more I could buy another 1060. So for the same price as the 1 6800k, I could have 2 decent computers, that could easily play most games on max. Def play stellaris on one and 2 eves on the other, with mad room to spare, vrs the one i7 6800k that would be maxed out almost on those 2 eves and the stellaris.
And since the 6800k went from 370 to 414, it prolly will go up more. Choice choices.
I think I best chilly down, and just wait. Passmark has the benchmarks for the 7700k, which I really don't know how that compares to say gaming, but it got 13000k, and 2700 single thread, while the 6800k, only gets 13600, and 2039 on single. Although since the 7700k looks like they have it at 4.2/4.5 vs 3.2/3.6, I dono what that means if you get the 6800 to 4.3. Cant find a OC bench of the 6800k
just out of curiosity, why would anyone want to play more than one game at a time? not trying to insult anyone but attention deficit is an acceptable answer. multiboxing isn't since you're basically playing one game multiple times at once. in this case for example he is playing eve x2 (probably not boxing) and a completely different game. again, not trying to insult anyone.. i just want to know out of curiosity to gain more understanding and knowledge of this world and the people in it.
just out of curiosity, why would anyone want to play more than one game at a time? not trying to insult anyone but attention deficit is an acceptable answer. multiboxing isn't since you're basically playing one game multiple times at once. in this case for example he is playing eve x2 (probably not boxing) and a completely different game. again, not trying to insult anyone.. i just want to know out of curiosity to gain more understanding and knowledge of this world and the people in it.
Let me first correct you in your misconception of what add is. Some one with add is not gonna be able to play any of those games. One eve online requires serious thought and focus, or you end up with nothing, and stellaris is a empire management game, that has 100 AI 3000 systems, and a such a focus required that if you don't pay attention to what your doing, you loss. So any one with this, " have great difficulty getting or staying focused on a task or activity." "often fails to give close attention to details or makes careless mistakes in schoolwork, work, or other activities;"
So now that I cleared that up for ya. I play 2 eves because at the moment, I am waiting for my character to be able to use a freighter, and a Hulk, which will take 20 days or so. Then I am waiting to be able to use the teir 2 logistic ships, which will take 40 more days or so. I am mining to gain money. Mining only requires you to make sure you dont get blown up by npcs, and go back to base and unload, and then go back.
While I mine, I play either heroes of the storm, or Stellaris. I also take care of 3 kids, while I am doing all that so I like games that can be paused. I am honestly confused as to why you came to the conclusion that some one that does that has ADD. Most people who play eve do something else while they mine, some read books, some watch tv, and I play heroes of the storm, or Stellaris.
Lol I am also confused as to why you think some one has ADD, if they play 2 eve onlines and stellaris, but not have add if they play 8 eve onlines at once, you know that makes absolutely no sense right.
Now answer my question, should i get 40 lanes pcie with a 5920k and save 100 bucks, or go with a 6850k and spend 100 more, or forget 40 lanes and go with the 6800k which has 24. I am gonna be using 2 1070s, a m2, and a pcie sound card? So your job is to find out if 2 10 70s bottleneck at 8x pcie 3.0, because that is what they will drop to, with a m2 and pcie sound card. Well, it seems that m2s don't use pcie 3.0 or the sound card, so that answers the question Although that still leaves the question of one 1070 running at 16x, and one 1070 running at 8x, cause a bottleneck. Since the 6800k has 24 lanes. I guess I need to find benchmarks, with some one with a i7 6700k, and a i7 6800k and see if there is a difference. Nvm found my answer there too lol. There is a differnce of .52% between x8 and x16, so I guess I can do 3 way at some point, that should be fun.
If you want to go x99 the 28 lanes vs. 40 is only really going to be a thing if you want to run multiple vid cards. I had a 5820k on an Asus deluxe II with a M.2 Samsung 950 and a U.2 Intel 750... you still have x16 on your vid card. Even when I didn't have an x1 slot for my sound card... I was still able to have x16 on my vid card. It just comes down to slot placement and how your motherboard assigns lanes (this isn't always the same from brand to brand or even model to model in the same brand on x99).
For the original question... EvE I would imagine is pretty much a single threaded game (most games are still) and likely the other game you could play fine is as well. So for your strat game it sounds like it may actually be able to use more than one thread... So the simple answer for your CPU question is to find out what that game can actually utilize and then base your cpu decision on what else you will be running.
If you don't care about some of the connectivity you get with z170 compared to x99... then you can get a 5820k for close to the same price as a 6700k... The overall price difference will not be that great compared to past generations. With the 6c/12t x99 chips like the 5820k that is at least close to a 6700 in price, you are getting 2 more actual cores. The 6800k I am not sure of what benefits it might provide besides a very slight ipc improvement. They definetly run hotter (broadwell E) than Haswell E... which is why some of the aftermarket places that sell binned CPU's actually offere a delid service with Broadwell E and have lists of motherboards you can do a direct die mount with (sillicon lottery site is a great example of this). That's not normal for that level of cpu (in my opinion). If you are just going to run at stock settings it might not be an issue but I would personally likely stick with a Haswell E if I was going x99.
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If you want to go x99 the 28 lanes vs. 40 is only really going to be a thing if you want to run multiple vid cards. I had a 5820k on an Asus deluxe II with a M.2 Samsung 950 and a U.2 Intel 750... you still have x16 on your vid card. Even when I didn't have an x1 slot for my sound card... I was still able to have x16 on my vid card. It just comes down to slot placement and how your motherboard assigns lanes (this isn't always the same from brand to brand or even model to model in the same brand on x99).
For the original question... EvE I would imagine is pretty much a single threaded game (most games are still) and likely the other game you could play fine is as well. So for your strat game it sounds like it may actually be able to use more than one thread... So the simple answer for your CPU question is to find out what that game can actually utilize and then base your cpu decision on what else you will be running.
If you don't care about some of the connectivity you get with z170 compared to x99... then you can get a 5820k for close to the same price as a 6700k... The overall price difference will not be that great compared to past generations. With the 6c/12t x99 chips like the 5820k that is at least close to a 6700 in price, you are getting 2 more actual cores. The 6800k I am not sure of what benefits it might provide besides a very slight ipc improvement. They definetly run hotter (broadwell E) than Haswell E... which is why some of the aftermarket places that sell binned CPU's actually offere a delid service with Broadwell E and have lists of motherboards you can do a direct die mount with (sillicon lottery site is a great example of this). That's not normal for that level of cpu (in my opinion). If you are just going to run at stock settings it might not be an issue but I would personally likely stick with a Haswell E if I was going x99.
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Hmmm thank you very much. I am still debating on that very issue. I think you are right, i didn't see much advancement between the 5820k and the 6800k. I plan on overclocking, and it looks like the 5820k can clock higher, and gets the same as a 6800k. Since most people said they couldn't get thier 6800s to 4.4, the 5820k looks like it easily goes to 4.6. It is also 385 vs 500 that would be comparable to it, which is the 6850k, since the 6800k only has 24 lanes, vs the 5820k has 40.
I do plan on getting 2 1070s, a m2 4x pcie 3.0, but from the few benchmarks I found, 8x vs 16x on a 1080 doesnt make a difference, so the 1070s wouldn't be a problem at 8x 8x. I was thinking of 3 1070s, but apparently they don't allow that. Gonna order either the 5820k or 6800k Friday so i got alittle more time to make the right choice.
Note i guess i was wrong the 5820k only has 28 lanes. Thanks again for the help.
just out of curiosity, why would anyone want to play more than one game at a time? not trying to insult anyone but attention deficit is an acceptable answer. multiboxing isn't since you're basically playing one game multiple times at once. in this case for example he is playing eve x2 (probably not boxing) and a completely different game. again, not trying to insult anyone.. i just want to know out of curiosity to gain more understanding and knowledge of this world and the people in it.
Each player has his own reasons, but generally:
1. Because the MMO has a lot of forced waiting. Playing two games at once may mean more playing and less waiting 2. For the challenge. Many MMOs are time-wasters. For those of us who want the game to challenge their abilities more, playing more than one client at a time is more difficult challenge 3. To get more power, bypass some in-game limitation, or be able to do something you can't with just one account
None of those reasons has anything to with attention deficit. Playing more than one game at once requires more skill and more attention, not less.
hatefulpeace said: Let me first correct you in your misconception of what add is.
So now that I cleared that up for ya. While I mine, I play either heroes of the storm, or Stellaris. Lol I am also confused as to why you think some one has ADD, Now answer my question,
I didn't think any of those things. I was just saying it would have been a viable answer and there's no shame in that. Thanks for the detailed answer and I have no clue for yours.
If you upgrade, please post back to let us know how it goes. With what you're attempting to accomplish, I don't think the I7 will even give you what you're looking for. I've been the victim many times of an upgrade that falls short of expectations. With a person that must play this many games at once, I think you're out of luck for the time being, I would wait if I were you. Just my opinion though. I think you'll be disappointed with the outcome.
I upgraded, it will all be here by Friday, I will let you know if it works. I dont think I will be disappointed. Also upgraded from a 850 evo to a 960 evo, so hopefully save game times, on stellaris go down from the like 4 seconds, to almost instant.
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Does the CPU fan sound more when you played a while?
If it does I would consider a better cooling system for it. Maybe one of the Corsair hydro systems? Relatively cheap and easy to install liquid cooling.
It is just not powerful enough to run 2 eves, and stellaris, need more cores, or another computer. It is def not the gpu either, because if I run the 2 eve onlines and play heroes of the storm, for hours they all work fine. Heroes of the storm is way more graphically demanding than stellaris is. It is just that stellaris needs 80 percent of the cpu to run, and it cant be the gpu, because I dont even think stellaris needs a gpu to run, the graphics aren't that demanding.
I shall see, the 6800k on amazon is out of stock intill later this month. I am 90 percent sure it will get rid of the skipping. Which is just unacceptable for me, when I play stellairs, and the 2 eves, I can't even open up a you tube video with out it skipping. The only thing that is maxed at that time, is the cpu with it hitting 100 percent.
If it doesn't, then with amazon bad ass return policy, I will just send it back, and pick a new hobby haha.
Still, if it run it fine for an hour and then start to drop in performance the CPU should be more than enough and the problem is elsewhere.
If you get the problem from the start it surely is the CPU.
I would start to scan your computer for malware and clear anything you don't need that start when you boot (it is easy to get a load of crap that leeches your CPU power). Ad aware is good for finding malware and free, the startup is best manually, or you can use a program like easyclener.
Stellaris by it self uses over 80% of the cpu, Google uses like 5%, eve online uses 20-30% per eve, how does that equal enough cpu. My guess is windows to stop the computer from locking up, throttles one of the things, and it happens to pick one of the eve online clients.
Hmm I wouldn't buy it then if it uses alcohol, alcohol is not as good as water for transferring away heat. I am unsure why they used alcohol for that, its not like any one is gonna run their computer outside in the freezing temps. I suppose the only advantage would be if you broke it, and spilled it all over your computer it wouldn't brake.
But it seems like a waste of time and money to buy that, I doubt it would get much better than a big air cooler. Yeah that thing is a waste of money. http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2665&page=7, it barely gets any better than a big air cooler, but you have to put a big radiator on your computer. Which should be pretty obvious because it uses alcohol, which is 100 percent not as good as water for transferring heat. Which is why i went with a air cooler, vrs wasting money on one of those bad designed water coolers. Not that most people would attempt that due to being scared of braking something, and or looks. But I am all practical, and the only reason to go water cooler, is to go cold on cooling, which that isnt gonna do. 2c difference between that and a noctua doesn't justify a hug ass radiator, and 40 dollars more.
If i was gonna do water cooling again. I could make one that is 100 times better than that for 100 bucks. All you would need is the thing that fits on the CPU, and a cheap 10 dollar pump, and some air compressor hose that costs like 8 bucks for 20 feet. If you ran water from a bucket, into the cpu block, with no radiator it would cool it better than that garbage alcohol cooler. That would be over 40 dollars cheaper, and run it between 10-20c cooler than a air or that water cooler. Then you have the advantage of dumping ice into your bucket, so you can get that extra 200 mhz for benchmark tests haha, which i have tested and that ice drops the temp down to like 15 c if you keep dumping ice in there. But yeah suggesting that thing to some one is not sound advice. It is just a gimmick, and worthless compared to a cheaper big air cooler.
The hell man, running 8 clients at once? At least its not pay to win right?
I feel like when I play an MMO, everyone else around me is just 3 friends with 20 accounts running at once. You justify my fears!
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I agree with that feeling. They need to make games to discourage multi accounts. BDO did a great job of discouraging having 2 accounts, but their economy is so ass horrid its not worth playing.
And since the 6800k went from 370 to 414, it prolly will go up more. Choice choices.
So now that I cleared that up for ya. I play 2 eves because at the moment, I am waiting for my character to be able to use a freighter, and a Hulk, which will take 20 days or so. Then I am waiting to be able to use the teir 2 logistic ships, which will take 40 more days or so. I am mining to gain money. Mining only requires you to make sure you dont get blown up by npcs, and go back to base and unload, and then go back.
While I mine, I play either heroes of the storm, or Stellaris. I also take care of 3 kids, while I am doing all that so I like games that can be paused. I am honestly confused as to why you came to the conclusion that some one that does that has ADD. Most people who play eve do something else while they mine, some read books, some watch tv, and I play heroes of the storm, or Stellaris.
Lol I am also confused as to why you think some one has ADD, if they play 2 eve onlines and stellaris, but not have add if they play 8 eve onlines at once, you know that makes absolutely no sense right.
Now answer my question, should i get 40 lanes pcie with a 5920k and save 100 bucks, or go with a 6850k and spend 100 more, or forget 40 lanes and go with the 6800k which has 24. I am gonna be using 2 1070s, a m2, and a pcie sound card? So your job is to find out if 2 10 70s bottleneck at 8x pcie 3.0, because that is what they will drop to, with a m2 and pcie sound card. Well, it seems that m2s don't use pcie 3.0 or the sound card, so that answers the question
For the original question... EvE I would imagine is pretty much a single threaded game (most games are still) and likely the other game you could play fine is as well. So for your strat game it sounds like it may actually be able to use more than one thread... So the simple answer for your CPU question is to find out what that game can actually utilize and then base your cpu decision on what else you will be running.
If you don't care about some of the connectivity you get with z170 compared to x99... then you can get a 5820k for close to the same price as a 6700k... The overall price difference will not be that great compared to past generations. With the 6c/12t x99 chips like the 5820k that is at least close to a 6700 in price, you are getting 2 more actual cores. The 6800k I am not sure of what benefits it might provide besides a very slight ipc improvement. They definetly run hotter (broadwell E) than Haswell E... which is why some of the aftermarket places that sell binned CPU's actually offere a delid service with Broadwell E and have lists of motherboards you can do a direct die mount with (sillicon lottery site is a great example of this). That's not normal for that level of cpu (in my opinion). If you are just going to run at stock settings it might not be an issue but I would personally likely stick with a Haswell E if I was going x99.
*edited for grammar with a few new error made to maintain balance*
I do plan on getting 2 1070s, a m2 4x pcie 3.0, but from the few benchmarks I found, 8x vs 16x on a 1080 doesnt make a difference, so the 1070s wouldn't be a problem at 8x 8x. I was thinking of 3 1070s, but apparently they don't allow that. Gonna order either the 5820k or 6800k Friday so i got alittle more time to make the right choice.
Note i guess i was wrong the 5820k only has 28 lanes.
Thanks again for the help.
1. Because the MMO has a lot of forced waiting. Playing two games at once may mean more playing and less waiting
2. For the challenge. Many MMOs are time-wasters. For those of us who want the game to challenge their abilities more, playing more than one client at a time is more difficult challenge
3. To get more power, bypass some in-game limitation, or be able to do something you can't with just one account
None of those reasons has anything to with attention deficit. Playing more than one game at once requires more skill and more attention, not less.