Does anyone think WoW might be the 'Save All' game?

Motorhead · December 2003

It seems people are still looking for that 'truly great game' ....

SWG never stood a chance of becoming that game.

The Verdict's still out on Horizons.

People are liking FFXI so far.

My question is, do you think that Blizzard/WoW can pull off making that 'perfect mmorpg' that seems to be alluding everyone?

ianubisi · December 2003

I think Blizzard will make a good game...they may even make a great game. But my expectations of the results are far lower than many Blizzard fanboys out there.

Don't forget, folks...Blizzard is owned by Vivendi Universal...Vivendi Universal is royally screwed up right now. Decisions about release are made more often by the accountants than by the developers.

Lower your expectations just a bit and you might just get more than you bargained for. Leave them really high and you're guaranteed a disappointment.

air_head1 · December 2003

i think the main reason why ppl are going to buy WoW is because of the warcraft series they probably won't evan really look into the game b4 they get it they think its warcraft and its going to be good me personally im not quite sure but i think it should be good im look at the screenshots and its looking good especially some of the dungeons

Jiraiya · December 2003

Wow certainly looks great, based on reviews and screenshots. But the expectation of it shouldn't be too high of it. If it turn out not as 'perfect' as you expected, your gonna be real dissapointed. I personally feel that WoW will manage to get lots of subscribers(including me) if they don't screw up on the retail launch.

Clever_Glove · December 2003

MMORPG savior? That implies MMORPG's need saving, they don't. MMORPG's are a young market but a ever growing one.

Posting things like this doesn't help WoW. IMHO WoW is running the risk of so many other over hyped games, that is, not matter how good the game is it can't live up to the hype.

WoW will bring allot of D2/WC3 heads into the MMORPG arena. That could be good or bad depending on your feelings on those audiences.

I think allot of people may start playing MMORPG's because of WoW, but I wouldn't expect to be any more than a popular MMORPG.

Blizzard isn't a innovator. They generally take existing ideas and make them better. Witch is why the games are so good, they lean from others mistakes. But to that end, your not going to see much that's fresh.

With that being said, I'll wait until it's released sometime in 2005 (or 2006) until I get find out for myself. Until then it's hear-say and speculation.

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TMcC · December 2003

I think Darkfall will blow this game away, and I also think Dragon Empires will be way better then this game. Im a pvp guy myself, if a game has to make a server for pvp only seperate from other servers thats making a safe place for players=not cool

Clever_Glove · December 2003

WoW will be a ASE or SAE type game. K's won't get enjoyment from it... although Blizzard is tring to hard to please all people, all of the time.

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"EQ was once a great game. I wont deny it, but so was Asteroids. And just like Pong, EQ is obsolete by newer game standards."

A: 93% E: 55% S:3% K: 50%

Games and players have a type. What type are you? click here

cedori · December 2003

Blizzard usually makes great games, just have to wait until it comes out before judging it really. As with all games, wait for the final release and previews, what one things another might not think the same. Time will only tell.

SatansDisciple · December 2003

im thinking mmorpgs tied in with movies (matrix online, middle earth online) will be the "saviors". meaning it will introduce a whole new crowd of people to the genre. true it doesnt really need saving though.

"This is the beginning of a new day. You have been given this day to use as you will. You can waste it or use it for good. What you do today is important because you are exchanging a day of your life for it. When tomorrow comes, this day will be gone forever; in its place is something that you have left behind...let it be something good."
- Unknown Author

air_head1 · December 2003

i agree with satans desciple evan though he is satans desciple

neschria · December 2003

What if WoW turns out to merely be a good game? Are people going to be able to even see that it is a good game through their disappointment that it isn't The Best Game That Will Ever Be? I am posing this as a hypothetical question. I am neutral on the WoW issue, but I do think that too much hype for any game is a bad thing.

Jiraiya · December 2003

The person shouldn't start this thread in the first place. You are trying to point out(or hint)that WoW 'could' be the best mmorpg of all time. This will only make non-fans dislike this game even more. The more hype a game has, the more non-fans will hate it. Its the same with RO for me. Its not a bad mmorpg(at least compared to others korean mmorpg) but i hate it cause many pple are crazy about it.

No point speculating how this game will turn out. Just wait and time will tell.

ianubisi · December 2003

Originally posted by neschria

What if WoW turns out to merely be a good game? Are people going to be able to even see that it is a good game through their disappointment that it isn't The Best Game That Will Ever Be? I am posing this as a hypothetical question. I am neutral on the WoW issue, but I do think that too much hype for any game is a bad thing.

Fanboyism would prevail for a while, but eventually it would die down. There would be some die-hard supporters that would scream heresy by even suggesting Blizzard could do anything less than exceptional.

It would put a massive chink in the armor of a company that takes very few risks and produces very few products. I think they'll do well, but again this is a beast that is much bigger and nastier than they've encountered before.

Koltrane · December 2003

One thing on which I will bet every dime I possess is that no matter how good WoW is, someone out there will absolutely despise it, and I'm not talking about the people who compare MMOGs to brainwashing. Every, and I mean EVERY MMOG which I have followed over the past six years has had people who absolutely love it and people who absolutely hate it, many of the latter being disappointed former fanboys.

MMOGs are as touchy as religion and politics to many. Certainly the attitudes toward these games are often extreme and polarized. Those that hate EQ treat it as if it were a communist plot, a Ku Klux Klan rally, and a Pauly Shore movie all rolled into one. They heap derision upon it and spew vitriol at it on numerous web sites and chatboards. It's safe to say that neither WoW nor any MMOG will avoid a similar treatment from an oppositional group.

I don't think that the MMOG genre needs saving. On the contrary, I agree with Glove that it is in its infancy and we are just seeing the beginning. We will see changes from better graphics to more diverse settings to actual virtual economies to experimental ways of payment to true mainstream acceptance (can't you see the ESPN2 presentation of the Ultimate Baseball Online World Series?).

WoW will probably do very well, but don't kid yourself into thinking that it will be the be-all end-all MMOG. I'm betting that even Blizzard doesn't think that.

Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate. (written on the SW:G CD)

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Boognish · December 2003

I think WoW is going to be a sweet game, but will it be the MMO genre's saving grace? Nah, it's a piece of work for sure, but then really so is The Saga of Ryzom. I'm almost more interested to see how Faces of Mankind turns out. Now there's a new and exciting concept...

"The sun comes up and I'm all washed out. Is this what Deaner was talkin about? I don't think I will ever return again my friend." ---Gene Ween

webBear1000 · December 2003

I think WoW will be a good game but it's not gonna break any new ground. Combat and crafting are all any MMORPG supply at the moment, even if they do claim to be "next-generation".

Personally I love the graphical style of the Warcraft games and I love the background. They don't pretend to be a bunch of Tolkiens, unlike some other developers. I find that backgrounds to MMORPGS are a load of pretentious juvenille crap, the only exception that springs to mind in Eve. The Warcraft background is refreshing in it's simplicity. It may be a bit juvenille but it doesn't pretend to be anything else.

I don't think Blizzard will be pressured into releasing an unfinished, unstable game. They've got too much of a good reputation to let it slip.

Will it be the "Save All" game?

NO

But hopefully it'll restore my jaded attiitude towards the genre.

findnolimit · December 2003

First off... what are you talking about? "Save All," are you really sitting around waiting for the one MMORPG that is going to topple the rest of the big names already in existence and breath new life into a genre that doesn't need it because we are only seeing the freaking beginning? Give me a break... It sounds like your sitting around waiting for a new religion to follow man... I haven't played an MMO in a while because none have interested me enough to do so... however WOW does look like it's going to shape up to be a great game (but be realistic) can you please everyone? with anything? NO... I like WOWs cartoon look because frankly I like my games to look like games... I'm not waiting around for a "realistic" simulated reality... I like existing in the real one thank you. Fighting, crafting? What do you want your character to take a piss for you? I don't know try ATITD if you want to build stuff and have your thriving virtual econ., but you know you can help someone build a house in RW too right? Thats what I did this summer and I assure you it was just as fun... I don't mean to flame but the rampant fanatacism that threads like this suggest well... scares me... Just find what you like and have fun, thats basically all you really need... even from a game.

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