all MMOs look wonderful in development phase, most fail to live up to expectations
I said this before and truly believe it. These games are the equivalent of the backup quarterback on an NFL team. Fans project their hopes and dreams onto them. They represent a blank slate that seems perfect because their flaws haven't been revealed. They show hints of greatness in the small samples of work that the public sees.
Unfortunately, for every Tom Brady there are 100 Brock Osweillers.
Im still waiting for my Tom Brady...
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I have been playing MMORPGs since 1999 and have for the last five or six years have commented on the decline of the MMORPG. Not the genre itself nor the player base, however the creation of quality games.
When I would critique them I would get ridiculed, flamed and trashed. It was sad to see how venomous the population had become after all these years. Trolling anyone who agreed that the gaming industry had lost its way became the norm.
I have been watching Chronicles of Elyria this past year and I like most of what they are saying, Some things I dont like but thats normal. You cant please everyone. However I have been watching Citadel of Sorcery for over three years and still feel that it is what I am looking for in an MMORPG.
Chronicles of Elyria and Citadel of Sorcery are the only 2 MMORPGs in development that have any chance of bringing intelligent life to the Genre. Players mock them, critics are biased either way. Most people do not have the faintest clue what it takes to make an MMORPG. As a backer for Citadel of Sorcery I and many others have access to the devs and we are updated often. Yes there are delays because of glitches and so on but people have to understand:
New things need to be tried in creation of new MMORPGS, in Citadel of Sorcery's case the folks at MMOMagic had created their own engines and Tool sets. They are creating a game from scratch not using any of the current programs and engines.
I dont know how Chronicles of Elyria is doing in regards to tools they are using but I hope they are successful because breaking out of the slump MMORPGs are in is a harder task than anyone could have ever imagined.
If you really want your answer as to why everyone is so negative and flaming and venomous and doesn't "understand", you've brought up a perfect example in your own post anyways. You point to Citadel of Sorcery as if it's a good example, a shining beacon of a chance to add intelligence to MMORPGs. And then... well, we get a person who's now genuinely and sincerely interested in this shining beacon of MMORPG intelligence....
The CoE dev team are going to stun the established MMORPG development community !
This talented group of complete unknowns will produce one of the most complex games in MMO history in the time it normally takes a AAA dev team to just finalize their initial design documents !
(PS: add my exclamation marks to the 15 in Tim's article)
Don't forget all the other games that get launched before that time!
A full fledged MUD
A "Prologue" game
A Kingdoms of Elyeria game
Gonna be a busy year!
Even if these guys were the best game developers on earth they still don't have the time or money to make this happen.
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"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
I have been playing MMORPGs since 1999 and have for the last five or six years have commented on the decline of the MMORPG. Not the genre itself nor the player base, however the creation of quality games.
When I would critique them I would get ridiculed, flamed and trashed. It was sad to see how venomous the population had become after all these years. Trolling anyone who agreed that the gaming industry had lost its way became the norm.
I have been watching Chronicles of Elyria this past year and I like most of what they are saying, Some things I dont like but thats normal. You cant please everyone. However I have been watching Citadel of Sorcery for over three years and still feel that it is what I am looking for in an MMORPG.
Chronicles of Elyria and Citadel of Sorcery are the only 2 MMORPGs in development that have any chance of bringing intelligent life to the Genre. Players mock them, critics are biased either way. Most people do not have the faintest clue what it takes to make an MMORPG. As a backer for Citadel of Sorcery I and many others have access to the devs and we are updated often. Yes there are delays because of glitches and so on but people have to understand:
New things need to be tried in creation of new MMORPGS, in Citadel of Sorcery's case the folks at MMOMagic had created their own engines and Tool sets. They are creating a game from scratch not using any of the current programs and engines.
I dont know how Chronicles of Elyria is doing in regards to tools they are using but I hope they are successful because breaking out of the slump MMORPGs are in is a harder task than anyone could have ever imagined.
Hurm, I shall look into this Citadel of Sorcery you speak of.
You can find articles on citadel of sorcery going back to 2008, its one of those indie mmorpg that sound too good to be true and therefore never gets finished.
Yeah, they even had me going for a while and I'm normally very skeptical about things that sound too good until they actually produce them.
Haven't checked on their progress for more than a year. I might need to go have a peek too.
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I have backed SC, CoE, CU and Crowfall. I don't expect all of them to succeed but I sure hope atleast one will and that I will get a couple years of good game time on it.
I can't get excited for these games. I remember the Horizons fiasco.
The DarK N light,The EQ Next,Landmark...STO,Tabula Rasa and even for me SWTOR,i thought an amazing game was coming not more of the same old linear questing with boring combat.Way too much hype in the industry and it is brought on by marketing,advertising and the media .Most of these games should be ranked down at least a couple points from their scores.A 8/10 should be a 6/10 and so on and so on.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
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all MMOs look wonderful in development phase, most fail to live up to expectations
I miss DAoC
Unfortunately, for every Tom Brady there are 100 Brock Osweillers.
Im still waiting for my Tom Brady...
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
If you really want your answer as to why everyone is so negative and flaming and venomous and doesn't "understand", you've brought up a perfect example in your own post anyways. You point to Citadel of Sorcery as if it's a good example, a shining beacon of a chance to add intelligence to MMORPGs.
And then... well, we get a person who's now genuinely and sincerely interested in this shining beacon of MMORPG intelligence....
but...
People are negative about Chronicles of Elyria because of precedents set by things like Citadel of Sorcery.
"In ancient times, men built wonders, laid claim to the stars and sought to better themselves for the good of all. But we are much wiser now."
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/Haven't checked on their progress for more than a year. I might need to go have a peek too.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Me too! And there is still no angel, demon, or vampire race in that game.
The DarK N light,The EQ Next,Landmark...STO,Tabula Rasa and even for me SWTOR,i thought an amazing game was coming not more of the same old linear questing with boring combat.Way too much hype in the industry and it is brought on by marketing,advertising and the media .Most of these games should be ranked down at least a couple points from their scores.A 8/10 should be a 6/10 and so on and so on.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.